Newbie 2057: Mars! - End!

[Kazyan]

I can see

why

you're townreading CN, since he does portray a drivenness to play the game correctly, even if my gut feels that it's a LAMIST performance instead of actual towning. I don't think you're his scumbuddy or anything, if that's what you're getting at.

[CreativeName]

I do like people townreading me but I also have paranoia of thinking people are trying to pocket me, it's a double edged blade of are you genuine town townreading me or are you trying to make me vote with you at some point in the future so you and your scumbuddy(s) can win

[Kazyan]

I do like people townreading me but I also have paranoia of thinking people are trying to pocket me, it's a double edged blade of are you genuine town townreading me or are you trying to make me vote with you at some point in the future so you and your scumbuddy(s) can win

I felt this feel so very feely in my last game.

Bleh, I'm not doing very well at this "save your scumleans for later" thing. We haven't even gotten everyone to post yet.

[CreativeName]

If you find it easier to scum read people definitely go for that, I know some people are better at townreading and some are better at scumreading, also I'll probably make a reads list at some point so look out for that

[Kazyan]

Oh, no, I'm absolutely awful at scumhunting; I'm just saying what my gut tells me, which has historically been wrong. In my first game, I went into a 5-person ELo an one Innocent Child, so 2/3 of the unconfirmed people were scum, and I tunneled on the one that was town. In my second game, I ended up getting a strong scumread on a person who was just a VT, while pushing back against the leading wagon...which was a wagon on an actual scum. Mafia is hard.

It's too early for a list on my end because not everyone has posted, but: I have Skitter and SAMCRO as townleans, WhemeStar as a null, Pooky as a null (but I low-key have nervous energy about a big poster), and everyone else is getting side-eye.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ya i kinda got the vibe that you were used to much shorter phases than we have here

i would also like to declare a tr on creativename!

be careful creativename!

when she gets that look in her eyes she is licking her lips and picturing you on a dinner plate :>

[CreativeName]

ya i kinda got the vibe that you were used to much shorter phases than we have here

i would also like to declare a tr on creativename!

be careful creativename!

when she gets that look in her eyes she is licking her lips and picturing you on a dinner plate :>

That's when my paranoia comes in handy

[CreativeName]

Oh, no, I'm absolutely awful at scumhunting; I'm just saying what my gut tells me, which has historically been wrong. In my first game, I went into a 5-person ELo an one Innocent Child, so 2/3 of the unconfirmed people were scum, and I tunneled on the one that was town. In my second game, I ended up getting a strong scumread on a person who was just a VT, while pushing back against the leading wagon...which was a wagon on an actual scum. Mafia is hard.

It's too early for a list on my end because not everyone has posted, but: I have Skitter and SAMCRO as townleans, WhemeStar as a null, Pooky as a null (but I low-key have nervous energy about a big poster), and everyone else is getting side-eye.

That's opposite from me usually my gut reads are quite good, just my actual plan from said reads is not as good, I can usually call 2/3 of the scum out if given time and if given enough time 100% of the scum

[T3]

VOTE: skittles30
His reactions feel somewhat forced, and I get the sense he is trying to pocket creative. (eg. I would like to formally declare a tr)

[T3]

It appears I misread the name.
VOTE: skitter30

[skitter30]

* she

Ok, can you point to an interaction that feels forced?

And why do you think i'm pocketing creative (i.e. vs just stating a townread on him)?

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@kazyen wasnt particularly worried that you may have thought i was partnered with creative - it was more that if someone votes someone just after someone else said they townreaf them, i'd usually expect some kind of 'i disagree with the townread cuz xyz' and was wondering what you thought of it

(I think i wrote that confusingly, if you dont get what i'm saying lmk and i'll try to reword)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

she is going to eat you :O

[skitter30]

Pooky >:(

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have to warn the newbies of the horrors I have seen :3

[skitter30]

I'm like ~90% sure you never have tho lol
I dont think i ever rolled scum against you, unless i'm forgetting something

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it hurts more when you are town

[WhemeStar]

I think creative is obv town

I think pooky is scum

[CreativeName]

nomnomnom tigre eats newbies, I may be new but i still have experience

[Kazyan]

* she

Ok, can you point to an interaction that feels forced?

And why do you think i'm pocketing creative (i.e. vs just stating a townread on him)?

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@kazyen wasnt particularly worried that you may have thought i was partnered with creative - it was more that if someone votes someone just after someone else said they townreaf them, i'd usually expect some kind of 'i disagree with the townread cuz xyz' and was wondering what you thought of it

(I think i wrote that confusingly, if you dont get what i'm saying lmk and i'll try to reword)

I think I get what you're saying. I might have responded with a "disagree because X" statement if your post had stated a reasoning behind the townread--that might be why T3 got suspicious. As it stood, I didn't give it more than like one second of thought because I was busy with Creative.

[CreativeName]

I mean it depends on the strength of the read, a small read would definitely be reasonable on anyone by anyone, but a strong one this early is more likely pocketing or some nefarious tactic especially considering I have done nothing too townish yet, however we must remember mason possibility this game and that will also affect people's reads, I am not saying me and skitter are masons but it is something to look for in people's later reads. also cops definitely with experience will include their results in their reads, But as it's only D1 with no headstart there should be no invest results.

[WhemeStar]

Skitter do you have a lot of experience with pooky?

This play from him currently seems fake and sounds like he’s trying to put on a front for no reason.

Unless he does this type of thing every game then that would change my mind.

[WhemeStar]

Nvm creative is not obv town

[WhemeStar]

94 threw me way off

[T3]

* she

Ok, can you point to an interaction that feels forced?

And why do you think i'm pocketing creative (i.e. vs just stating a townread on him)?

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@kazyen wasnt particularly worried that you may have thought i was partnered with creative - it was more that if someone votes someone just after someone else said they townreaf them, i'd usually expect some kind of 'i disagree with the townread cuz xyz' and was wondering what you thought of it

(I think i wrote that confusingly, if you dont get what i'm saying lmk and i'll try to reword)

Your specific wording, such as "I would like to declare" pings me as slightly scummy.

[CreativeName]

94 threw me way off

what exactly about 94 threw you off so much to change your read?

That was a sort of sharpish turn from "obv town" to "maybe not obv town"