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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:48 am
by Kazyan
I can see
why
you're townreading CN, since he does portray a drivenness to play the game correctly, even if my gut feels that it's a LAMIST performance instead of actual towning. I don't think you're his scumbuddy or anything, if that's what you're getting at.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:51 am
by CreativeName
I do like people townreading me but I also have paranoia of thinking people are trying to pocket me, it's a double edged blade of are you genuine town townreading me or are you trying to make me vote with you at some point in the future so you and your scumbuddy(s) can win
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:56 am
by Kazyan
In post 76, CreativeName wrote:I do like people townreading me but I also have paranoia of thinking people are trying to pocket me, it's a double edged blade of are you genuine town townreading me or are you trying to make me vote with you at some point in the future so you and your scumbuddy(s) can win
I felt this feel so very feely in my last game.
Bleh, I'm not doing very well at this "save your scumleans for later" thing. We haven't even gotten everyone to post yet.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:11 am
by CreativeName
If you find it easier to scum read people definitely go for that, I know some people are better at townreading and some are better at scumreading, also I'll probably make a reads list at some point so look out for that
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:28 am
by Kazyan
Oh, no, I'm absolutely awful at scumhunting; I'm just saying what my gut tells me, which has historically been wrong. In my first game, I went into a 5-person ELo an one Innocent Child, so 2/3 of the unconfirmed people were scum, and I tunneled on the one that was town. In my second game, I ended up getting a strong scumread on a person who was just a VT, while pushing back against the leading wagon...which was a wagon on an actual scum. Mafia is hard.
It's too early for a list on my end because not everyone has posted, but: I have Skitter and SAMCRO as townleans, WhemeStar as a null, Pooky as a null (but I low-key have nervous energy about a big poster), and everyone else is getting side-eye.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:31 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 70, skitter30 wrote:ya i kinda got the vibe that you were used to much shorter phases than we have here
i would also like to declare a tr on creativename!
be careful creativename!
when she gets that look in her eyes she is licking her lips and picturing you on a dinner plate :>
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:37 am
by CreativeName
In post 80, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: In post 70, skitter30 wrote:ya i kinda got the vibe that you were used to much shorter phases than we have here
i would also like to declare a tr on creativename!
be careful creativename!
when she gets that look in her eyes she is licking her lips and picturing you on a dinner plate :>
That's when my paranoia comes in handy
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:44 am
by CreativeName
In post 79, Kazyan wrote:Oh, no, I'm absolutely awful at scumhunting; I'm just saying what my gut tells me, which has historically been wrong. In my first game, I went into a 5-person ELo an one Innocent Child, so 2/3 of the unconfirmed people were scum, and I tunneled on the one that was town. In my second game, I ended up getting a strong scumread on a person who was just a VT, while pushing back against the leading wagon...which was a wagon on an actual scum. Mafia is hard.
It's too early for a list on my end because not everyone has posted, but: I have Skitter and SAMCRO as townleans, WhemeStar as a null, Pooky as a null (but I low-key have nervous energy about a big poster), and everyone else is getting side-eye.
That's opposite from me usually my gut reads are quite good, just my actual plan from said reads is not as good, I can usually call 2/3 of the scum out if given time and if given enough time 100% of the scum
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:00 am
by T3
VOTE: skittles30
His reactions feel somewhat forced, and I get the sense he is trying to pocket creative. (eg. I would like to formally declare a tr)
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:01 am
by T3
It appears I misread the name.
VOTE: skitter30
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:22 am
by skitter30
* she
Ok, can you point to an interaction that feels forced?
And why do you think i'm pocketing creative (i.e. vs just stating a townread on him)?
~
@kazyen wasnt particularly worried that you may have thought i was partnered with creative - it was more that if someone votes someone just after someone else said they townreaf them, i'd usually expect some kind of 'i disagree with the townread cuz xyz' and was wondering what you thought of it
(I think i wrote that confusingly, if you dont get what i'm saying lmk and i'll try to reword)
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:24 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
she is going to eat you :O
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:26 am
by skitter30
Pooky >:(
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:28 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i have to warn the newbies of the horrors I have seen :3
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:36 am
by skitter30
I'm like ~90% sure you never have tho lol
I dont think i ever rolled scum against you, unless i'm forgetting something
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:39 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
it hurts more when you are town
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:39 am
by WhemeStar
I think creative is obv town
I think pooky is scum
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:39 am
by CreativeName
nomnomnom tigre eats newbies, I may be new but i still have experience
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:43 am
by Kazyan
In post 85, skitter30 wrote:* she
Ok, can you point to an interaction that feels forced?
And why do you think i'm pocketing creative (i.e. vs just stating a townread on him)?
~
@kazyen wasnt particularly worried that you may have thought i was partnered with creative - it was more that if someone votes someone just after someone else said they townreaf them, i'd usually expect some kind of 'i disagree with the townread cuz xyz' and was wondering what you thought of it
(I think i wrote that confusingly, if you dont get what i'm saying lmk and i'll try to reword)
I think I get what you're saying. I might have responded with a "disagree because X" statement if your post had stated a reasoning behind the townread--that might be why T3 got suspicious. As it stood, I didn't give it more than like one second of thought because I was busy with Creative.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:49 am
by CreativeName
I mean it depends on the strength of the read, a small read would definitely be reasonable on anyone by anyone, but a strong one this early is more likely pocketing or some nefarious tactic especially considering I have done nothing too townish yet, however we must remember mason possibility this game and that will also affect people's reads, I am not saying me and skitter are masons but it is something to look for in people's later reads. also cops definitely with experience will include their results in their reads, But as it's only D1 with no headstart there should be no invest results.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:54 am
by WhemeStar
Skitter do you have a lot of experience with pooky?
This play from him currently seems fake and sounds like he’s trying to put on a front for no reason.
Unless he does this type of thing every game then that would change my mind.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:55 am
by WhemeStar
Nvm creative is not obv town
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:55 am
by WhemeStar
94 threw me way off
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:11 am
by T3
In post 85, skitter30 wrote:* she
Ok, can you point to an interaction that feels forced?
And why do you think i'm pocketing creative (i.e. vs just stating a townread on him)?
~
@kazyen wasnt particularly worried that you may have thought i was partnered with creative - it was more that if someone votes someone just after someone else said they townreaf them, i'd usually expect some kind of 'i disagree with the townread cuz xyz' and was wondering what you thought of it
(I think i wrote that confusingly, if you dont get what i'm saying lmk and i'll try to reword)
Your specific wording, such as "I would like to declare" pings me as slightly scummy.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:12 am
by CreativeName
what exactly about 94 threw you off so much to change your read?
That was a sort of sharpish turn from "obv town" to "maybe not obv town"