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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:09 am
by WhemeStar
I asked if you liked his posts and you said yes

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:16 pm
by Demainer
I said
In post 68, Demainer wrote:Enough to have a much scummier target to go for, yes.


What does "much scummier" imply?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:26 pm
by Ivyeo
In post 67, Saudade wrote:No no no........................!
it's the need to state the obvious that pinged me
I'm not sure what you mean by this exactly?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:42 pm
by WhemeStar
In post 76, Demainer wrote:I said
In post 68, Demainer wrote:Enough to have a much scummier target to go for, yes.


What does "much scummier" imply?
But what was scummy about me was my unvote which I don’t understand why you think it’s scummy when you think his posts were good?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:59 pm
by Ivyeo
He's not neccesarly saying Dark isn't scummy, he's saying you are *more* scummy than dark, we want to execute our most likely scum do we not?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:01 pm
by WhemeStar
I just don’t get how you can scumread someone I scumread and vote me unless you think I bussed

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:13 pm
by Demainer
(1) You were only the third vote on the endlessdark wagon, (2) you voted when it was clearly still RVS, and (3) how can you scumread someone who hadn't even posted yet when you voted for them?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:15 pm
by Demainer
Whemestar's original post:
In post 13, WhemeStar wrote:Hihi VOTE: endless dark

I like a wagon

L-2 btw. Which means 2 more votes is a hammer which is a flip. Something we don’t want currently.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:16 pm
by Demainer
The whole defense just seems rather odd.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:11 pm
by endlessdark
In post 67, Saudade wrote:No no no........................!
it's the need to state the obvious that pinged me
I'm sleepy and will elaborate further tomorrow, but take into account that she's a newbie. Her posts don't yet strike me as needing-to-state-the-obvious (filler?) in a scummy way.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:06 pm
by Saudade
No but this tell was usually what newbies fell for while the veteran gods (me) knew to avoid it

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:49 am
by Clasko
In post 65, Egix96 wrote:considering that you haven't played in a long time, I imagine you would be eager to contribute.
The two aren't mutually exclusive from where I'm standing. If anything I'm more nervous due to being out of the game for a long time.
In post 65, Egix96 wrote:I'm curious as to what your own thoughts are.
(/T) - Town-lean:

(/T) on Demainer AND WhemeStar - their argument feels cyclical and non-scripted = less chance to be W v. W; also sparking discussion evidenced by Ivyeo's 79.
(/T) on Lukewarm - contributes to discussion and I like the tone of their posts.

I'm forming opinions on others that I don't want to give words to just yet. Stay tuned.

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:19 am
by Clasko
UNVOTE: Egix96

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:20 am
by WhemeStar
In post 82, Demainer wrote:Whemestar's original post:
In post 13, WhemeStar wrote:Hihi VOTE: endless dark

I like a wagon

L-2 btw. Which means 2 more votes is a hammer which is a flip. Something we don’t want currently.
In post 81, Demainer wrote:(1) You were only the third vote on the endlessdark wagon, (2) you voted when it was clearly still RVS, and (3) how can you scumread someone who hadn't even posted yet when you voted for them?
Oh yeah i guess that’s true. So you scumread both of us but just me more p

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:42 am
by Egix96
In post 86, Clasko wrote:If anything I'm more nervous due to being out of the game for a long time.
Are you concerned that you'll get scumread, or have bad reads? Or something different?

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:47 am
by Lukewarm
My scumreads are Whemestar, Ivyeo and Clasko.

I explained my reasoning for Whemestar earlier.

Ivyeo does not seem to be contributing much to the conversation, and what they are sending is very wishy-washy. Their messages so far have been a vote, a quick unvote, and then this one:
In post 56, Ivyeo wrote:Whilst I do see the scummyness in Wheme's posts, I'm not sure we want to cut Day 1 discussion to right here.
They just seem like they are being overly cautious, which I feel is more likely with a scum then a town.



Clasko hardly said anything until someone questioned it, then he town-read whemestar (my biggest scum vibes) because
In post 86, Clasko wrote:their argument feels cyclical and non-scripted = less chance to be W v. W
And I don't understand the logic. Why would deducing that they are not BOTH scum automatically mean that neither one is?



I am town reading Demainer using Clasko's logic. It does not seem like a scum v scum conversation, and I think that whemestar is the more likely scum of the pair.

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:04 pm
by WhemeStar
I missed that part of claskos post

Clasko why do you townread both of us if you don’t think it’s a WvW argument?

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:47 pm
by Ahri
the speed of this game

:doge:

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:51 pm
by Demainer
In post 92, Ahri wrote:the speed of this game

:doge:
Anything to say about the game? Any reads?

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:53 pm
by Ahri
In post 93, Demainer wrote:
In post 92, Ahri wrote:the speed of this game

:doge:
Anything to say about the game? Any reads?
nothing to say

lots of reads.

I'll keep all my cards, close to my chest
I'll wait here and see which way the wind will blow...

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:46 pm
by Clasko
Whoa, okay:
In post 89, Egix96 wrote:Are you concerned that you'll get scumread, or have bad reads? Or something different?
If I'm answering truthfully, from my perspective, my nerves come from interacting with 8 strangers on the internet playing a game I love, but having outdated experience in.

Also, in response to being scum-read/bad reads, whilst I feel they're inevitable in every game, yes, I am afraid of making mistakes and looking bad. I also hate offending people and try to avoid it in games I'm in at all costs.
In post 90, Lukewarm wrote:Clasko hardly said anything until someone questioned it, then he town-read whemestar (my biggest scum vibes) because
In post 86, Clasko wrote:their argument feels cyclical and non-scripted = less chance to be W v. W
And I don't understand the logic. Why would deducing that they are not BOTH scum automatically mean that neither one is?
In post 91, WhemeStar wrote:Clasko why do you townread both of us if you don’t think it’s a WvW argument?
The town-leans come more from the active discussion being generated from the argument they're both having:
In post 86, Clasko wrote:(/T) on Demainer AND WhemeStar - their argument feels cyclical and non-scripted = less chance to be W v. W;
also sparking discussion evidenced by Ivyeo's 79.
If I had thought about my post some more, I probably should have put the bolded part of that sentence
before
the W v. W thing - sorry if this caused confusion.

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:34 pm
by endlessdark
tbh, Clasko, I think you're townreading way too easily.

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:36 pm
by endlessdark
In post 81, Demainer wrote:(1) You were only the third vote on the endlessdark wagon, (2) you voted when it was clearly still RVS, and (3) how can you scumread someone who hadn't even posted yet when you voted for them?
I think Demainer is on point here and WhemeStar's frustration is not the towniest thing ever either.

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:39 pm
by endlessdark
In post 84, endlessdark wrote:
In post 67, Saudade wrote:No no no........................!
it's the need to state the obvious that pinged me
I'm sleepy and will elaborate further tomorrow, but take into account that she's a newbie. Her posts don't yet strike me as needing-to-state-the-obvious (filler?) in a scummy way.
In post 85, Saudade wrote:No but this tell was usually what newbies fell for while the veteran gods (me) knew to avoid it
If Ivyeo is not an experienced player, I can see stating things in a more-than-necessary clear way as expected. Ivyeo, what's your experience with mafia?

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:40 pm
by endlessdark
Before I go sleep, my guess is WhemeStar/Clasko mafteam. :D