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[Titus]

he's just scum thats stringing us along "guys don't kill me, I have important information to give." but he's not worried about getting nighkilled b4 he can out

I'm getting scum vibes from both him and Dwlee but it's unlikely they're scum together given peta's posting.

[Nero Cain]

@peta/Nero, I largely feel Dwlee was scum that didn't know how to react as well. It almost feels like Dwlee is going to rely on a claim to get him through given the strong playerlist.

I'm not sure if I buy this. I tend to think scum would be more likely to go with the flow and try not to make waves. Also, I do think DW has a point.

[petapan]

he's just scum thats stringing us along "guys don't kill me, I have important information to give." but he's not worried about getting nighkilled b4 he can out

i'll be explaining it day 1, lmao at trying to make this argument (it's not related to my role, for the record)

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: peta

[Titus]

he's just scum thats stringing us along "guys don't kill me, I have important information to give." but he's not worried about getting nighkilled b4 he can out

i'll be explaining it day 1, lmao at trying to make this argument (it's not related to my role, for the record)

How can you have important information that you're not releasing if it's not role related?

VOTE: peta

[petapan]

he's just scum thats stringing us along "guys don't kill me, I have important information to give." but he's not worried about getting nighkilled b4 he can out

i'll be explaining it day 1, lmao at trying to make this argument (it's not related to my role, for the record)

How can you have important information that you're not releasing if it's not role related?

VOTE: peta

titus, titus. sigh.

it's mod meta stuff, if you really have to know

[petapan]

@peta, why do you think Nero is chainsawing for his buddy rather than two people who happen to agree?

i know the answer to this one too! It fits his narrative. It's just strongly worded bullshit and if DW is town and gets lynched today then he can just push me tomorrow.

you'd assume i'd have enough credibility to push through an elim on you after hardshoving an elimination on town day 1? doesn't track as a believable thought process

[Dwlee99]

@peta/Nero, I largely feel Dwlee was scum that didn't know how to react as well. It almost feels like Dwlee is going to rely on a claim to get him through given the strong playerlist.

Homie what

[Nero Cain]

@peta, why do you think Nero is chainsawing for his buddy rather than two people who happen to agree?

i know the answer to this one too! It fits his narrative. It's just strongly worded bullshit and if DW is town and gets lynched today then he can just push me tomorrow.

you'd assume i'd have enough credibility to push through an elim on you after hardshoving an elimination on town day 1? doesn't track as a believable thought process

considering that there are tons of scum that get away with bad pushes all the time...

it's like you are pretending you've never played mafia b4

[Andresvmb]

I feel like I’m stuck on Groundhog Day.

[petapan]

@peta, why do you think Nero is chainsawing for his buddy rather than two people who happen to agree?

i know the answer to this one too! It fits his narrative. It's just strongly worded bullshit and if DW is town and gets lynched today then he can just push me tomorrow.

you'd assume i'd have enough credibility to push through an elim on you after hardshoving an elimination on town day 1? doesn't track as a believable thought process

considering that there are tons of scum that get away with bad pushes all the time...

it's like you are pretending you've never played mafia b4

this is my first game actually

[Nero Cain]

I feel like I’m stuck on Groundhog Day.

you'll just never live that game down

[Nero Cain]

this is my first game actually

LaL!

[Andresvmb]

I feel like I’m stuck on Groundhog Day.

you'll just never live that game down

Hahaha no I wasn’t talking about how that game happened. Looking back, I actually played okay. I don’t think I disappointed.

It’s more a comment on my own alignment.

[Nero Cain]

oh. i guess you haven't read yet. i thought that was a comment on what's happening.

[T3]

Nah dwelee is town.

[T3]

Titus and nero are also town.

[petapan]

1 out of 3 is okay if we're playing baseball but in mafia not so much

[Nero Cain]

I mean, the way I feel rn is that DGB's proposal is a little anti-town and you could maybe make the argument that she's open wolfing but then I could easily see a town DGB that got burnt and legit thinks it a good idea to lynch without claims and play this like a scumsided mountainous setup. I think DW sees that this can be bad and is opposed to it. I'm surprised that Rathe and Titus also think DGB's proposal is good. I feel like Peta is scum that's just trying to chum up to DGB and her proposal generally benefits his faction.

[Titus]

@Nero, I think DGB's setup should be modified. I'm not in favor of claims are pointless/irrelevant. I'm only in favor of the crumbing part and being aware of mod fuckery.

[petapan]

I mean, the way I feel rn is that DGB's proposal is a little anti-town and

you could maybe make the argument that she's open wolfing

but then I could easily see a town DGB that got burnt and legit thinks it a good idea to lynch without claims and play this like a scumsided mountainous setup. I think DW sees that this can be bad and is opposed to it. I'm surprised that Rathe and Titus also think DGB's proposal is good. I feel like Peta is scum that's just trying to chum up to DGB and her proposal generally benefits his faction.

dgb doesn't lead with that post as scum, lol at you trying to hedge on that too

you are scum who is threatened by me identifying dgb as town early and are trying to discredit me, you're already dead

[Nero Cain]

if you think I'm scum reading DGB then you really aren't reading my posts. Also, you are being pretty manipulative with that cherry pick.

Also, the fact that you are taking the opportunity to argue about DGB instead of what I said about you doesn't feel right.

[petapan]

if you think I'm scum reading DGB then you really aren't reading my posts. Also, you are being pretty manipulative with that cherry pick.

Also, the fact that you are taking the opportunity to argue about DGB instead of what I said about you doesn't feel right.

i know you're not but you blatantly hedged in that post which shows a lack of willingness to commit to the townread, don't try to misrep

i care way less about dgb's proposal (which i've barely commented on) than trying to sort the alignment of dgb as well as the people reacting to it, arguing like my nefarious plan is to get people to play mechanically suboptimal is disingenuous horseshit. seen enough of dgb who's had a real rough string of games (one of which was my fault) to say that's a town opener. arguing that someone making a "correct" argument about how to play a normal setup must be town for it is bad reasoning, scum love to get caught up in boring arguments about mechanics that they "truly believe" and acting like arguing against dgb is "protown" or w/e is an easy stance to take that offers nothing

[osuka]

alright nerds i was out all day yesterday at a concert and i just woke up. everything hurts but im catching up here

[osuka]

I noticed that the site meta has changed over time.

It used to be that power roles were helpful to the town, and that claims helped solve the game. This is no longer true.

I just finished playing Sybil's Elegy which was a great example of the role distribution being designed to confuse at best, and F up at worse, the town. I have played others with similar anti-town mod shenanigans.

Here's the deal.

We should not claim, ever.

Treating the game as mountainous will increase our chances of winning.

What we should do (and I include vanilla townies) is to crumb our night choices somehow BEFORE the night. Vanilla townies must crumb fake targets.

When you're dead, and we know your role and alignment, we can go back and use the crumbs for the solve.

Solving games by way of RESULTS and CLAIMED ROLES will not work. It just doesn't work anymore.

hottest take of all time

i see nobody's waiting to post stupid shit, it's page 1 and we're already losing brain cells