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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:43 pm
by fferyllt
Vote Count 1-2
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Where did pizza originate? What was the first pizza like? What kinds of toppings did the first pizzas have? We will never know for sure what the very first forerunner of pizza was like, but we do know a little about early flatbreads with toppings. For instance, 8000 years ago Persian soldiers baked flatbreads topped with cheese and dates on their shields.



StrangeMatter
(2): Haschel Cedricson, Lukewarm
HockeyFan
(2): StrangeMatter, Zyla
Haschel Cedricson
(1): Save The Dragons
Lukewarm
(1): HockeyFan

Not Voting
(2): Azeru, cyrus62


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: June 20, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-19 21:00:00)

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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:44 pm
by StrangeMatter
In post 72, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 69, StrangeMatter wrote:I'd prefer to do Town reads later, and focus on what we think about possible scum reads/leans right now.
This is the exact opposite of how I approach games lol

I find it easier to find confident town reads early, then I can sort the rest of the players.
I find it easier to get a grasp of who I can assume is Town once there's a lot on several players to POE and make it easier to pick out scum.

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:45 pm
by Save The Dragons
you can call me STD i don't mind

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:46 pm
by HockeyFan
In post 77, Save The Dragons wrote:you can call me STD i don't mind
ngl, It didnt even occur there was a T in your name, I just saw a V for some reason, sorry about that!

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:49 pm
by Lukewarm
@HockeyFan, what is your experience with Mafia?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:51 pm
by StrangeMatter
In post 79, Lukewarm wrote:@HockeyFan, what is your experience with Mafia?
Not all that great, when I've played several chat Mafia games and haven't done all that well.

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:51 pm
by HockeyFan
Uh I sporadically play on mafia.gg. I've been on the site for a year now, but haven't played that much on it. I guess you can say I have a little bit of experience with Mafia?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:52 pm
by StrangeMatter
Oops, I thought they were talking to me. Whyyyy

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:56 pm
by Pavowski
Good lord, how is this thread 4 pages deep already? I haven't even had the chance to RVS VOTE: Lukewarm yet, and I've been dying to. So there you go!

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:59 pm
by Lukewarm
HockeyFan, I am trying to follow your read progression on STD. Can you explain it more. You gave him a really early "confident town read," then backed it off of it with
In post 74, HockeyFan wrote:Also, speaking about SVD:I did call him town earlier but after seeing post#52 and post#56 idk about that anymore, He was trying to soft defend his possible scum partner so SVD is back to null leaning scum. I also really liked this questioning by Zyla and I feel like scum dont try to push on someone who was already TR'D by 1-2 people.
Who is he protecting there? Strangematter? Do you even scum read Strangematter? I thought I was your strongest scum read, at least you are voting me, so then why would you be of particularly suspicious of his interaction with Strangematter and haschel?

Can you walk me through your thinking?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:00 pm
by Pavowski
@Zyla I used to like pineapple on pizza until I realized I was just doing it to upset people. I now recognize this topping arrangement as trash

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:03 pm
by StrangeMatter
I'm also a bit confused by the Luke and me partners. @HockeyFan, can you explain why do you think Lukewarm would defend me?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:07 pm
by Zyla
In post 74, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 70, Zyla wrote:Honestly, I was expecting to have to wait until IRL tomorrow to have some reads either direction, but I guess I got a strong one early.
In post 15, HockeyFan wrote: With that being said, I will vote Zyla for stealing my question

VOTE: Zyla
I find it interesting that you mention my question but don't actually respond to either of them
I mentioned it because I was going to ask the "Do you like pineapple on pizza" question and it seemed completely NAI but I wanted to see a reaction by voting u. I didn't bother to respond to the other one. I do not know why ignoring a RQS post is scum leaning?
Ignoring is NAI, but mentioning it and not responding seemed a little off to me.
I would still like to know though, do you prefer mafia or town?
In post 18, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 13, Save The Dragons wrote:are we doing rqs instead of rvs?

i feel confident town will win, how's that?
Already found a confident town, SVD is town
What makes Dragon town from this post? If anything the wording is slightly off for town
ehhh while the wording may be off, I think his original post was towny enough and
this read was pretty lackluster anyways so theres no need to pay too much attention to it
(Unbolded then rebolded for emphasis)
Honestly, while I'm not going to remember every read in the game, I don't think I want to just dismiss one, they can be pretty important
In post 66, HockeyFan wrote: Counterwagon this ASAP :)
What do you mean by this?
There were a few votes on the table(cant exactly remember who), but none of them were on Luke and I thought Luke was scummy so I wanted to counterwagon Luke
I'm not entirely sure you understand wagons

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:09 pm
by Zyla
In post 77, Save The Dragons wrote:you can call me STD i don't mind
That's signature material right there

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:09 pm
by HockeyFan
In post 84, Lukewarm wrote:HockeyFan, I am trying to follow your read progression on STD. Can you explain it more. You gave him a really early "confident town read," then backed it off of it with
In post 74, HockeyFan wrote:Also, speaking about SVD:I did call him town earlier but after seeing post#52 and post#56 idk about that anymore, He was trying to soft defend his possible scum partner so SVD is back to null leaning scum. I also really liked this questioning by Zyla and I feel like scum dont try to push on someone who was already TR'D by 1-2 people.
Who is he protecting there? Strangematter? Do you even scum read Strangematter? I thought I was your strongest scum read, at least you are voting me, so then why would you be of particularly suspicious of his interaction with Strangematter and haschel?

Can you walk me through your thinking?
Ok so, I town read STD because of post#13. That post had the aura of being "I am town, I'm confident and I am going to win this game for town". My read switched on him because of posts #52 and #56 where he said "strangematter, i think haschel wants your attention" and "i just think haschel might know give a newbie a little slack when it comes to not answering". These 2 statements feel like very mafia partnery like to relieve some pressure

As of right now, Strangematter is a null read for me(maybe leaning scum), You are my strongest scum read, so does that mean i'm not allowed to see other pairs in partnership because fwiw the strangematter/STD pair seemed very likely. I was suspicious because I have 0 idea why STD Needs to intervene their. Like my SR'S rn are You -> STD -> StrangeMatter. Hope this helps. and btw, My read on u might change back to null soon based on the
interactions between strange and STD


I am gonna get off for now, so i will be answering questions tmr morning

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:13 pm
by HockeyFan
In post 87, Zyla wrote:
In post 74, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 70, Zyla wrote:Honestly, I was expecting to have to wait until IRL tomorrow to have some reads either direction, but I guess I got a strong one early.
In post 15, HockeyFan wrote: With that being said, I will vote Zyla for stealing my question

VOTE: Zyla
I find it interesting that you mention my question but don't actually respond to either of them
I mentioned it because I was going to ask the "Do you like pineapple on pizza" question and it seemed completely NAI but I wanted to see a reaction by voting u. I didn't bother to respond to the other one. I do not know why ignoring a RQS post is scum leaning?
Ignoring is NAI, but mentioning it and not responding seemed a little off to me.
I would still like to know though, do you prefer mafia or town?
I prefer town
In post 18, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 13, Save The Dragons wrote:are we doing rqs instead of rvs?

i feel confident town will win, how's that?
Already found a confident town, SVD is town
What makes Dragon town from this post? If anything the wording is slightly off for town
ehhh while the wording may be off, I think his original post was towny enough and
this read was pretty lackluster anyways so theres no need to pay too much attention to it
(Unbolded then rebolded for emphasis)
Honestly, while I'm not going to remember every read in the game, I don't think I want to just dismiss one, they can be pretty important
Fair enough but I dont think a read 13-15 posts into the game should be substantive late game but thats just me?
In post 66, HockeyFan wrote: Counterwagon this ASAP :)
What do you mean by this?
There were a few votes on the table(cant exactly remember who), but none of them were on Luke and I thought Luke was scummy so I wanted to counterwagon Luke
I'm not entirely sure you understand wagons
Ok you may be right in saying I dont, Instead of using "counterwagon", I'll just say I wanted to vote them because of the reasons above

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:19 pm
by Lukewarm
The more you are explaining,

I think that this is just a matter of difference how we would describe reads. What I usually see here on the site is, more of a progression something like leaning town -> weak town read -> Town read -> Hard town read.

So when you came out with a "confident town read" I understood it to be a stronger read then you meant for it to be. And then got whip lash seeing a strong TR change all the way to maybe scum over posts 52 and 56

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:21 pm
by Lukewarm
At the moment, I think that I am leaning town on HockeyFan and Zyla. Zyla has both been more relaxed and more aggressive then she was last game.

No other real reads yet, but I am off to bed

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:34 pm
by StrangeMatter
I'm really not too sure about HockeyFan. To me he seems Town, but I'm very leaning away with his partner reads right now. will bet on saying Zyla's a decently good town read, as much as I wish we had scumreads, this is the best we can do.

This game has been a messy and not too great for me. For now, good night.

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:32 pm
by Azeru
In post 6, Zyla wrote:Questions for all:

Do you prefer playing as mafia or town?

Do you like pineapple on pizza?
Depends on my mood, but generally I'd say I prefer playing as mafia.

I don't hate it. Like I'll eat it if it's there, but I wouldn't ever actually order a pizza with pineapple on it.
In post 9, StrangeMatter wrote:Here's a random question to everyone.

How confident or nervous are you about winning this game?
I'd be lying if I said I was confident. :P

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:40 pm
by Azeru
Anyways, skimming through this all before bed. No particular reads so far, but a couple posts pinged my attention.
In post 29, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 28, Zyla wrote:
In post 9, StrangeMatter wrote:Here's a random question to everyone.

How confident or nervous are you about winning this game?
Honestly, it's hard to be confident at this stage, but Luke is a pretty good player, so if he's on the Town side I'm pretty optimistic
In post 14, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 9, StrangeMatter wrote:Here's a random question to everyone.

How confident or nervous are you about winning this game?
I would say decently confident. I am coming into this game off of a pretty good game. Town win on Day 2
:P On the other hand, it would be hilarious if he were the scum this game
Oh Zyla, must we always be on opposing sides?
I know this was already semi-sorted out, but jokingly or not I think it's questionable at best to assert to another player "we're on opposing sides". Odd wording and a stretch to that conclusion from the previous comment imo.
In post 69, StrangeMatter wrote:I'd prefer to do Town reads later, and focus on what we think about possible scum reads/leans right now.
I understand the thought behind this, but it's poorly worded and as a standalone message only serves to deprive town of information. Any read - town read or scum read - is information. I see no particular reason to strive for one or the other first.

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:44 pm
by Azeru
In post 95, Azeru wrote: I know this was already semi-sorted out, but jokingly or not I think it's questionable at best to assert to another player "we're on opposing sides".
Odd wording and a stretch to that conclusion from the previous comment imo.
Actually rescinding this part, I misunderstood when I read that interaction the first time, I get it now. The comment itself still strikes me as off though.

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:45 pm
by cyrus62
VOTE: azeruitch ant matter train once wrong next top raindrops at cooking kites everybody runs. i like playing scum i also like playing town . i dont like pineapples on my pizza. sorry kid was typing stuff at random didnt have the heart to remove it. also there's my rvs

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:10 pm
by cyrus62
In post 19, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Vanilla Town is the best role because not only do I get to give zero fucks about drawing the nightkill, it's actually good for me to draw it.

StrangeMatter: Why Hockeyfan?
i have never played you but i think as town we should draw the nk it protects the pr so they can help solve stuff for us. but i get what your saying at the same time no pressure to try to focus and you can just have fun.

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:36 pm
by cyrus62
In post 86, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm also a bit confused by the Luke and me partners. @HockeyFan, can you explain why do you think Lukewarm would defend me?
what do you mean by partners?