skitter is like, there was a lot of tension between her and dunn, which is good
but she didn't really bury him and that bothers me
on a sheer gut level she doesn't feel like scum but i dunno. i don't think i go after her now but i don't want to clear her for it
taly's stance on dunn is kind of
all over the place and it's not great
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:06 pm
by petapan
oh, i should add, because this is important:
I asked Tweet when scum chose when the bullet would be loaded in the gun, and the only answer she gave was that it was before she made the announcement
this is worth considering with regard to stuff from that phase because i think it's likely, but not certain they had to do so before the hammer
In post 67, petapan wrote:cakez is going to be insufferable if he had multiple correct reads that i was shielding
Better that he is and he's town
I don't really personally care about pelts
It's all relative to me
yup, dead scum is dead scum, though it is fun to hit several of them squarely with solid scumreads
I dunno how but I feel like there've been multiple games in recent history where my reads have been basically top-class (Radio Buzz, Dead Silence 3, Gensokyo technically because while I didn't always push scum I helped drive people to eliminate scum on days 1 and 2). I don't know what the magic formula is and tbh I don't care to try and find out because I think it's best if I just learn my strengths naturally. My biggest issue is that despite working to curb the habit, I still end up doing the thing called out in WSB where I end up hard TRing scum and blocking elims on them, it's not an all-the-time thing but I've become very keenly aware of it since your hydra made that comment
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:10 pm
by petapan
and with regard to the groups being split up:
there is no guarantee that there has to be one scum in a group but i think particularly in large games there's always one scum that busses on an early scum wagon
this is somewhat shakier because dunn was majority'd but i do believe there is probably a red team member to be found in that other group
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:10 pm
by Gypyx
In post 76, petapan wrote:oh, i should add, because this is important:
I asked Tweet when scum chose when the bullet would be loaded in the gun, and the only answer she gave was that it was before she made the announcement
this is worth considering with regard to stuff from that phase because i think it's likely, but not certain they had to do so before the hammer
i mean...
it's not like toog hammered / dunn runner up is something that came completely out of the blue right?
and even then, we litterally don't know where scum put the bullet, so it's not like there's anything possible to take away from that fact
In post 47, unwnd wrote:I feel like another thing about Infinity is that she's so willing to be convinced
I remember we got into a squabble and she went 'uh yeah I guess that's true' basically. Just very much a people pleaser but I don't know if I fully trust my read
and she says that's suspect? it's such a weird thing
eh it was still technically RVS I think?
it was a serious vote
and i think the cliche scumtell of RVS distancing is actually somewhat of a thing in the sense that scum are likely to be overly conscious of their teammates' posting early on
In post 76, petapan wrote:oh, i should add, because this is important:
I asked Tweet when scum chose when the bullet would be loaded in the gun, and the only answer she gave was that it was before she made the announcement
this is worth considering with regard to stuff from that phase because i think it's likely, but not certain they had to do so before the hammer
i mean...
it's not like toog hammered / dunn runner up is something that came completely out of the blue right?
and even then, we litterally don't know where scum put the bullet, so it's not like there's anything possible to take away from that fact
eh i tihnk it being quickhammered is at least kind of relevant in combination with the dunn theatrics
maybe i'm just spouting off nonsense because it's 3 AM yet it feels somehow relevant, like i feel like if they had known about it maybe they set it up to be more favorable
hypothetically if it's town/scum, even if dunn just shoots toog in the face and it's obvious TMI they still get rid of town and we have to waste another phase on getting rid of dunn
I know you got prodded twice but I'm wondering where you're at
umm, is that directed at me?
if so idk what you're asking of me there
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:24 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Unless all the scum piled on Toog, that seems obvious?
Maybe I'm mistaking correlation for causation but it seems plain to me.
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:24 pm
by petapan
dwlee
toog
taly
skitter
ulyana/infinity
i think i've soured on ulyana considerably
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:27 pm
by Gypyx
In post 86, petapan wrote:eh i tihnk it being quickhammered is at least kind of relevant in combination with the dunn theatrics
maybe i'm just spouting off nonsense because it's 3 AM yet it feels somehow relevant, like i feel like if they had known about it maybe they set it up to be more favorable
hypothetically if it's town/scum, even if dunn just shoots toog in the face and it's obvious TMI they still get rid of town and we have to waste another phase on getting rid of dunn
you're kinda spouting nonsense in my eyes yeah, sorry about that
In post 2433, Dunnstral wrote:I think Ydrasse as mafia will start the game off strong but over time lose drive, and then you realize their posting is just fluffy but not filled with very hard analysis
do you think this description of your expectation of scum!ydrasse lines up with taly’s play this game? and would you have a similar expectation of scum!taly?
she gives almost no consideration of dunn at all and the questions are soft
but also looking at the iso again i fel like she's just not going anywhere with the stuff she's asking and there's not much that's clearing relative to other people
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:34 pm
by Gypyx
In post 95, unwnd wrote:Just your reads or like what you think of Toog now
Yknow, given you voted them and all.
oh right
well, i think they're acting really scummy but sometimes i think it's the "bad town" scummy and sometimes look like it's the scummy scummy
so can't really tell
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:38 pm
by petapan
i feel like i need to do homework on shiki with regard to interaction patterns but might want to go there
it's late though i desperately need to force myself to sleep
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:22 pm
by unwnd
OK
I'm seeing where Peta sees Taly's inconsistencies wrt Dunn read
