because day 1 will result in the elimination of townies more often than random. why give scum a head start. skip to the night and come back day 2 when at least some townies will have some info to work with. anyone who says they are great at finding scum on day 1....lets just say i admire their confidence.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:59 am
by Capo22
geraintm seems to have had the same outlook in a few of his past town games
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:00 am
by Capo22
and meta reading that should have been a natural consequence to an honest read
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:01 am
by Capo22
so, VOTE: Scorpious for now
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:46 am
by fua
In post 77, Capo22 wrote:and meta reading that should have been a natural consequence to an honest read
When did he say he meta read Geraint?
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:47 am
by Scorpious
In post 75, geraintm wrote:because day 1 will result in the elimination of townies more often than random. why give scum a head start. skip to the night and come back day 2 when at least some townies will have some info to work with. anyone who says they are great at finding scum on day 1....lets just say i admire their confidence.
I'm sorry, this is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:48 am
by Scorpious
In post 77, Capo22 wrote:and meta reading that should have been a natural consequence to an honest read
Noted, I might have just been seeing things. I found it unusual you jumped right into non-Newbie games past joining. Of course, there is no rule barring you from doing this, but I still think that's unusual.
i am saying people should ignore me because i am going to spend the rest of today saying we should all skip to Night because day 1 is pointless.
And I say Day One might be useful. I used to believe that too, but MafiaScum games changed my mind. Given your rather distant join date, I'm rather surprised that you'd have such a take.
What's even weirder is you saying that we should ignore you, in 67. No. For me, you're potential scum just like all players in this game other than myself.
VOTE: geraintm
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:16 am
by Galron
geraintm is lhf Day 1
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:17 am
by Galron
IOW a bad vote. He will sort himself down the road.
In post 87, Galron wrote:I should have just let it go to see who all jumped, but don't let scum get away with a cheap easy vote.
what's your gut say? I specifically ask for gut cause im not planning on holding you to it, newb town or scum?
gerry? definitely not newb town. most definitely. he's null rn. the only thing he's done different so far as I know is he hasn't voted according to his usual entry method.
In post 87, Galron wrote:I should have just let it go to see who all jumped, but don't let scum get away with a cheap easy vote.
what's your gut say? I specifically ask for gut cause im not planning on holding you to it, newb town or scum?
gerry? definitely not newb town. most definitely. he's null rn. the only thing he's done different so far as I know is he hasn't voted according to his usual entry method.
So you’ve seen this before? AI at all or just play style?
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:50 am
by Galron
It's the way he plays. He's also going to be inactive on the weekends.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:51 am
by butterchurn
In post 77, Capo22 wrote:and meta reading that should have been a natural consequence to an honest read
I can't quite parse what this is saying. Are you saying "If he had meta read this, there is an honest read that should be a natural consequence"? If so, what read do you think that is? Or are you saying "if he was reading honestly, as a natural consequence of that he should have done a meta read"? I think it's the latter now that I've read it a few times, but on first read I interpreted it as the former.
In post 91, Galron wrote:gerry? definitely not newb town. most definitely. he's null rn. the only thing he's done different so far as I know is he hasn't voted according to his usual entry method.
I was reading his recent games earlier, and I mostly agree (on a quick look, I don't see a recent scumgame where he took this approach, but it's a clear enough attitude that I would assume him to be capable of imitating it), but to me it looks like he did use his usual entry vote method. I assumed scorpious was asking you about Greeting, though. (preview edit: maybe he wasn't)
Also, for what it's worth, I disagree with the philosophy, since I think the information gained from the content and organic voting/wagon forming is beneficial enough to town for it to be worth the unlikelihood that the lim is successful.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:51 am
by Galron
god i hate relyingon meta but you can't get away from it
In post 87, Galron wrote:I should have just let it go to see who all jumped, but don't let scum get away with a cheap easy vote.
what's your gut say? I specifically ask for gut cause im not planning on holding you to it, newb town or scum?
gerry? definitely not newb town. most definitely. he's null rn. the only thing he's done different so far as I know is he hasn't voted according to his usual entry method.
Yes I did!
I said 11 in my first post and voted 11 after that. At least I meant to
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:22 am
by Greeting
I see potential for the fastest hammer ever Day One!