Open 860 | Elected Decisions | Mafia Hideout

[RH]

@mod: The wording says that actions other than attempts to evict me will fail. Does that mean Divulge will also fail?

I mean Night Actions.
Sorry for the poor wording.

[Radical Rat]

Right then, so. Planning time.

Feel free to object if you have a problem with any of this, but...
No kill tonight, claim BP.
I push hard to make you the Mafia Hunting Supersoldier I've been yearning for.
If it works, claim Tracker. You tracked me because you were paranoid I was buddying you, and I went nowhere
I continue pushing for your apotheosis
If it works, claim JK, protecting Vivax.

In the meantime, we're actually hoping for a vig roll, which we will save for a surprise game-winning double kill, and taking the eliminations as they come.

[Radical Rat]

We need to start Departing people also. Can't afford any more conftown running around, so hopefully people can be convinced on that front

[RH]

Sorry for any inconveniences but this is a friendly reminder that the Mafia NK is compulsive so if no target is selected, I will randomly choose one for you.

[Radical Rat]

Oh I did not realize that, whoops.

That... Complicates things

[Radical Rat]

I guess it just comes down to either Kitty or Vivax.

We know Kitty isn't a protective role, since he would have probably saved Enchant otherwise. We don't know that he isn't PGO or BP though.

So Vivax is pretty much guaranteed to go off, and if it doesn't somehow, we can still claim you as BP instead.

[Roden]

Yeah I think we have to kill Vivax here, I'll do it since I can't be detected

Roden kills Vivax

Not being able to WIFOM by no killing kinda sucks, but tbh town could just decide to Divulge me anyway to be safe if that happened

[Radical Rat]

They could, yeah, and I worried about it, but ultimately I still thought it was our best shot.

Now, I have no idea how to crawl out of this, aside from just... perfectly persuading everyone, which........... is unlikely

[Radical Rat]

Because we need to prevent both more Divulgences and and more Town PRs, which....... I don't have any convincing arguments for

[RH]

Roden kills Vivax

Got that.

[Roden]

Yeah idk what to do here

Maybe pray for town complacency

[Radical Rat]

I think you should refuse to claim here. We'll give the PR to Kitty, as the safest choice lacking information, and finally either kill him or fail to, and if we fail we can try to sell you as Doctor then, passing off your question about who to heal as a softclaim, and hopefully it'll buy you enough towncred to sail to the endgame.

[Roden]

Good idea, I'll just hold back from claiming for now

[Radical Rat]

Not ideal, but at least we now have the opportunity to put an end to this conftown nonsense. I think we should avoid killing Galron as long as possible, we need paranoia on the slot.

My plan from here is to push Bella for prematurely ending the day, suggesting she may be partners with Galron. Bella's flip will kill that reasoning, but then when he doesn't die the next night, it looks very bad for him.

In the meantime, if Kitty lives, you claim Doctor, if Kitty dies, you claim BP hoping to bait the kill off of Kitty.

Any objections, concerns, better ideas?

[Roden]

That sounds good, it's pretty much what I figured we should go for

[Radical Rat]

Well, here we go then

Roden kills KittyTacky

[Roden]

Oh, well that worked out perfectly

[Radical Rat]

Holy shit, we're in ELO with Not_Mafia.

If we can coordinate here, we can actually win.

I don't want to rush into it though, because if Bella/Galron vote one of us before the hammer, there's no guarantee he chooses to side with us

[Roden]

Yeah definitely don't wanna rush this, NM doesn't always auto hammer in ELO and we might get exposed

I kinda want to claim Tracker and say I Tracked Bella, but it's probably too late to be believable at this point

[Radical Rat]

I thought about that too, but I think it would contradict your "You'll find out tomorrow" tease from yesterday, since you'd have no way of knowing you'd get results.

[Roden]

Right, almost forgot I did that, gonna have to stick to claiming BP then

[Radical Rat]

Are you around? If so, we can actually just quickhammer divulge and win that way

[Roden]

The thought crossed my mind, but we still have to deal with the PR. If we get unlucky, town could roll Doc or Vig. It's a small risk but I'd hate to lose that way. If you think it's worth it though, I'm gonna be around for a few hours, I'll keep checking the PT.

If we don't hammer now, maybe we could argue that Firebringer is scum by default, because the scum team should've hammered Divulge by now.

[Radical Rat]

I think you're right, that's the angle we should take. I'll vote first, hopefully Bella follows, and you can hammer. I don't think we can rely on Not_Mafia, since as you said he doesn't ALWAYS hammer in ELO, and Firebringer's a shitposting buddy

[Radical Rat]

At this rate, we might end up just running out the clock. Which is fine, we still win that way, it's just frustrating to sit around waiting on something to happen that may not ever