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If you did roll a dice I would be truly disappointed.

malthusis<3Mustafa<3Tovarish<3Dynamo<3Crazy<3Slayer<3ZombieSlayer<3forbiddan<3Jex<3Clockwork Ruse <3 TDC<3malthusis

And that ends this stage. You may now begin the lynch stage

Max wrote:If you did roll a dice I would be truly disappointed.

Yeah, I realize that, but I doubt that an 82% chance of winning could really be improved by discussion.

So all that matters is the last person alive.

Question: All nine townies need to vote for the same guy in order to lynch, right?
So if everyone but A voted A, A would only be lynched if A was scum.

If A isn't lynched, we know he's town and lynch whoever is chained behind A.
If A is lynched, we only lose if whoever is chained in front of him is his buddy.

This seems to be even better than 82%.

That's genius, TDC.

1. Malthusis
2. Mustafa
3. Tovarish
4. Dynamo
5. Crazy
6. Slayer
7. ZS
8. Forbiddan
9. Jex
10. ClockworkRuse
11. TDC

Everyone vote Tovarish except Tovarish.

One problem. Scum can still vote. If they thought they'd win, they'd vote self for the win or not vote self for the win. I don't approve.

What do you mean?
I'm under the impression that scum votes don't do anything.

Here's the relevant quote:

Max wrote:You forgot it requires a unanimous vote, 9 votes means every pro-town has to agree. Something which very rarely happens.

No they work, just you need 9 votes to lynch.

I was under the same impression as TDC.

Although Tovarish should vote someone else so his vote is not on himself when we test him.

Oh, crap.

Max wrote:No they work, just you need 9 votes to lynch.

Oh. The "unanimous" made it sound as if all townies had to agree.
Well, then my plan doesn't work.

Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

(the person after TDC on the chain)

Sorry about that. It would have been nice.

malthusis (2) Self & Crazy

Tovarish (1)
ClockworkRuse (1)
DynamoXI (1)
forbiddanlight (1)
Jex (1)
mustafa15 (1)
Potates (1)
slayer645 (1)
ZombieSlayer54 (1)

Crazy (0)

Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

We barely have a page of discussion. Why are you trying to push the lynch so quickly?

forbiddanlight wrote:

Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

We barely have a page of discussion. Why are you trying to push the lynch so quickly?

A better question, why do you want to stall this game so much, and reject every suggestion?

Seriously, discussion will not help as much as you're thinking. Discussion here will just give more time for the scum to manipulate us.

And besides, TDC is my top pick for town so far. You have any ideas?

Seriously, discussion will not help as much as you're thinking. Discussion here will just give more time for the scum to manipulate us.

Did it ever occur to you everyone should check in first for lynch phase? Oh, and also it's a lot easier for scum to manipulate when we are trying to speedlynch someone rather than slowing down a bit and thinking.

And besides, TDC is my top pick for town so far. You have any ideas?

None. Since you know, only you, I, and TDC have checked in.

A better question, why do you want to stall this game so much, and reject every suggestion?

Maybe because your suggestion was manipulatable, and TDCs was complete failure anyway? I'm not stalling, I'm trying to save us from blindly following someone here.

Look, I'm a VERY bloodthirsty girl, and when I play mafia, I usually prefer faster days. But this is fucking ridiculous. I'm not gonna lose the game because you are trying to ramrod a lynch through that may or may not be advantageous to scum.

forbiddan wrote:Did it ever occur to you everyone should check in first for lynch phase? Oh, and also it's a lot easier for scum to manipulate when we are trying to speedlynch someone rather than slowing down a bit and thinking.

More discussion will mean more time for the scum to look pro-town, or make their buddy look pro-town. It will be hard to improve on an 82% chance of winning.

And if you disagree that TDC suggesting that plan makes him seem very pro-town, please tell me why. A plan doesn't have to work for it to be pro-town.

And if you disagree that TDC suggesting that plan makes him seem very pro-town, please tell me why. A plan doesn't have to work for it to be pro-town.

I disagree that any plan makes anyone look pro town. It's a null tell, and maybe a slight town tell. The fact it doesn't work makes it more of a null tell. I won't say he was intentionally misleading us (he likely wasn't), but it's still a possiblity.

More discussion will mean more time for the scum to look pro-town, or make their buddy look pro-town. It will be very hard to improve on an 82% chance of winning.

And more discussion would also allow any pro town acting scum to slip up. that's why longer days almost ALWAYS favor town.

forbiddanlight wrote:

Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

We barely have a page of discussion. Why are you trying to push the lynch so quickly?

Agreed.

Crazy wrote:

forbiddanlight wrote:

Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

We barely have a page of discussion. Why are you trying to push the lynch so quickly?

A better question, why do you want to stall this game so much, and reject every suggestion?

Seriously, discussion will not help as much as you're thinking. Discussion here will just give more time for the scum to manipulate us.

And besides, TDC is my top pick for town so far. You have any ideas?

Stalling the game is bad? How in hell is stalling the game bad, in such a situation as this, where we have ONE lynch to get everything right?

One lynch. Do we REALLY want to fuck up the only lynch of the game? No, not really. So a discussing we will go.

Voting is what starts discussion, people. Saying "we need discussion" is a stupid attempt to look pro-town.

I'm not saying we should speed-lynch, but we should keep this game moving as fast as possible. If you want discussion, DISCUSS SOMETHING!!!!!

One lynch. Do we REALLY want to fuck up the only lynch of the game? No, not really. So a discussing we will go.

Thank you. It's kinda lylo except for the unanimous vote thing (and thank god for that)

Crazy wrote:

forbiddan wrote:Did it ever occur to you everyone should check in first for lynch phase? Oh, and also it's a lot easier for scum to manipulate when we are trying to speedlynch someone rather than slowing down a bit and thinking.

More discussion will mean more time for the scum to look pro-town, or make their buddy look pro-town. It will be

very

hard to improve on an 82% chance of winning.

And if you disagree that TDC suggesting that plan makes him seem very pro-town, please tell me why. A plan doesn't have to work for it to be pro-town.

And more discussion means more time for scum to slip up.

I prefer having a 99% chance of winning.

I'm not saying we should speed-lynch, but we should keep this game moving as fast as possible. If you want discussion, DISCUSS SOMETHING!!!!!

Well, first, I'd like everyone to show up and say hi or something. And we are discussing tatics for how the lynch should go, ne? I mean, I've already discussed why the two plans proposed aren't great. Well, to be fair, yours was good Crazy (except for the idea that dice can be fixed), it's just against the spirit of the game and I can't condone that.

Voting is what starts discussion, people. Saying "we need discussion" is a stupid attempt to look pro-town.

Yeah, but your voting is pressure or even motivated by anything. It's a "We will try to finish this game in 2 pages flat depending on dice".