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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:14 pm

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raider8169 wrote:
Stef wrote:OMGUS!
Unvote Vote pacman
You are not making any sense. Are you even useful in this office?
None of us are useful, that's why we are pissed off ;)
It was HIM!!
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:15 pm

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Can you be one of them?
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:40 pm

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We're not really in the random voting stage anymore.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:11 pm

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pacman281292 wrote:Can you be one of them?
Aren't we all supposed to be pissed off?
It was HIM!!
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:34 pm

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salempc wrote:
pacman281292 wrote:Can you be one of them?
Aren't we all supposed to be pissed off?
I meant Stef.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:12 pm

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As interesting as all this is, is any of this leading anywhere, or is Stef just a moron?
One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:15 pm

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I think this is getting us nowhere and that Stef is a moron, and until he starts to have some sense, I'm going to just ignore him.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:48 pm

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:) Just taking my time with the random stage since it's the last occasion in which i'm allowed to be stupid.

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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:47 am

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VOTE GREEN CRAYONS
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:49 am

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Don't you want to bold that? :D
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:03 am

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Unvote


Random stage over.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:49 am

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Those were instructions to the rest of the office. I'm already voting him, if I could vote twice I would, but alas.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:05 am

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Stef wrote::) Just taking my time with the random stage since it's the last occasion in which i'm allowed to be stupid.

unvote


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Thanks.
Unvote.

... now what?
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:12 am

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Random stage over?
unvote

crywolf20084 wrote: I think this is getting us nowhere and that Stef is a moron, and until he starts to have some sense, I'm going to just ignore him.
Yeah, unfortunately, the town isn't afforded such luxuries.

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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:51 am

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Porkens wrote:Random stage over?
unvote

crywolf20084 wrote: I think this is getting us nowhere and that Stef is a moron, and until he starts to have some sense, I'm going to just ignore him.
Yeah, unfortunately, the town isn't afforded such luxuries.

vote: crywolf20084
But what happens if he is the V.I. and then we'd just be lynching a townie, I personally think if we lynched him strait away, we'd be playing into the scums hand.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:09 am

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I do think you are the only one who considers me VI which is odd.
FoS crywolf
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:20 am

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pacman281292 wrote:
crywolf20084 wrote:. . .


Village Idoit comes to mind.
OMGUS QFT.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:27 am

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pacman281292 wrote:
Stef wrote::) Just taking my time with the random stage since it's the last occasion in which i'm allowed to be stupid.

unvote


Let the other fun begin.
Thanks.
Unvote.

... now what?
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:05 am

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raider wrote:Bad reasoning?
"I'm voting for Player X because he's not doing action Y while doing action Y!" ...Yeah, that's pretty bad logic.
raider wrote:At this point I think it is better reasoning then anything else.
Following purposeful bad reasoning is better than the slew of page one random voting? Are you serious?
Porkens wrote:I wasn't following any reasoning at all GC
So it was a random vote? You did the copy and paste as an excuse to throw a vote somewhere without any thought about it? On page two? I mean, I know there isn't an abundance to go on with page two, but when page two randomness is just absolutely necessary at least people make their random votes pretty obvious (e.g. more numbers in their name) than masking it as following non-random reasoning - as you were apparently doing.
Porkens wrote:I was just putting a silly vote on someone with a copy-past of the post DIRECTLY above me.
Yeah, and I FOSed him because he only FOSed using shaky logic. You used a vote for it. Appropriately varied responses to different actions.
Charter wrote:Can we really have caught us a scum this early?
So are you trying to make your connection to raider blatantly obvious?
Moratorium wrote:Random stage over.
Abundantly so. What happened to killing off random voting at the end of page one, or page two at the latest?
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:11 am

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GC, ff you had a point to your last post I missed it.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:21 am

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Re-reviewed the thread.
Sudo wrote:That said, it's still weird to just throw a complaint out there, and I intend to lean on him until he says something more meaningful than "Don't be haters".
What I find weird is not so much that he threw a complaint out there (because I see it more as a prod of "hey let's not fall into a slump so what can we do?"), but that even after the premature FOS/voting for failing to contribute even when he was attempting to stir up activity he did exactly what they said he was doing. Self fulfilling prophecy, much? Anyways, two posts later he then makes a post that is unequivocally an active contribution - but only after he was called out a second time (and this time legitimately) for making flippant posts. Such activity (not being a hypocrite only when called out on it)
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quite suspicious.

Any chance of Vamparific showing up?
raider wrote:GC, ff you had a point to your last post I missed it.
Are you being purposefully dismissive so that my contributions are ignored?
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:28 am

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Wow, stef's randomness really derailed the thread.
FOS: Stef


I find salempc's return to content-less comments after making 1 useful one when challenged, suspicious. Obviously we don't need to push for a lynch anytime soon, but I find him a solid first target for pressure.

GC - you've provided good content, but don't appear to be making any arguments towards one action or another. That's fine right now, but raider was correct to note that you appeared to be commenting without any specific aim in mind.

charter - why is greencrayon such an obvious vote?
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:51 am

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qwints wrote:charter - why is greencrayon such an obvious vote?
Not even obvious vote, obvious scum.
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Porkens wrote:Honestly, though, I'm really not impressed by Charter's double vote with no explanation on green crayons.
Yeah, me neither. ...So I guess I'll bite. Better than last on the list, at least.

Unvote, Vote: Charter
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A serious OMGUS vote.
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charter wrote:Would also be happy if a wagon formed on Porkens. I would gladly join.
Then, for the sake of getting a ball rolling.
Unvote, Vote: Porkens
. Oh, and because he followed some bad reasoning.
Attempting to shift suspicion of of himself onto another easy candidate. Also, says he's voting "for the sake of getting a ball rolling" and then adds "he followed some bad reasoning". It certainly wasn't bad reasoning, and others pointed out the exact same reason that Porkens switched his vote, but GC leaves them out. I also feel 'the ball was rolling' without the need for more random votes.

Basically, he's switched his vote all over the place trying to deflect suspicion away from himself. Every vote he makes comes with worse reasoning than the one before it. Zero scumhunting, just voting others. Has scum written all over it.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:51 am

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I didn't derail anything. Every1 has the option to scroll and to switch pages. I was allowed to have my fun as much as every1 else.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:00 pm

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qwints wrote:you've provided good content, but don't appear to be making any arguments towards one action or another.
That's because I'm happy with my vote for where it is at the moment. In my post I made points against Porkens that I find to me more vote-worthy than what my original vote was based on, and they were lending credence as to why I'm not changing my vote.
quints wrote:That's fine right now, but raider was correct to note that you appeared to be commenting without any specific aim in mind.
I guess I just wasn't making the purpose behind my points clear enough (though the points themselves seem to be readily apparent - contrary to raider's post). So, for clairifcation's sake, here it is:
My responses to raider's two quotes was defending my vote and questioning the validity of his dismissal of my vote.
My responses to Porken's two quotes was building upon my reasoning for voting him and keeping my vote there.
My response to charter's quote was using the exact same strategy - putting an opinion in the form of a question so that it's an implied accusation without backing it up - he used in the quote so he could see what it's like when used against him.
My response to Moratorium's quote was my opinion on when random voting should have ended (and thus this random voting silliness spilling over into page two/three/onwards is a waste of time).

And for good measure:
My response to Sudo's quote was because I intended to flush out my opinion re: salem's usefulness/uselessness being a switch he flicks on and off when it suits him.
My reference to Vamparific was because I think that's the only player who hasn't said anything yet and I would like to see everyone playing.
My reference to raider's quote was because I wanted to point out his complete dismissal of my valid points.

Okay, maybe those last three were a bit snarky to throw in there, but in all seriousness I don't see how my points were obfuscated in any way. To what end they were being made, perhaps, was maybe a bit muddled, but hopefully the above clarifies that.

charter wrote:Also, says he's voting "for the sake of getting a ball rolling"
Which it was.
charter wrote:and then adds "he followed some bad reasoning".
Are you suggesting a vote cannot be made for multiple reasons? Because that's ridiculous.
charter wrote:It certainly wasn't bad reasoning
I have already clarified that the reasoning was flawed because it was premature.
charter wrote:and others pointed out the exact same reason that Porkens switched his vote, but GC leaves them out.
Do you mean like qwints and Sudo, who I have addressed? Additionally, I have explained why my reaction to them was different. Please show me examples of these other people that I have left out, because as far as I can see they don't exist.
charter wrote:I also feel 'the ball was rolling' without the need for more random votes.
Wait. Are you saying my vote for Porkens was a random vote, even though I have already explained my original reasoning for voting him and have explained why I am keeping my vote there? Because my vote
wasn't
random, as I made clear when I voted for him, and it continues to not be random, as my reason for keeping my vote on him has evolved. Way to go to completely mischaracterize my vote.

Also, you're saying that "the ball was rolling" - basically, that there was plenty of contribution. But people were already pointing out that there was a distinctive
lack
of activity (or "ball rolling," if you will) right before this. Way to go to completely mischaracterize the environmental context of my vote.
charter wrote:he's switched his vote all over the place
I've had three votes this game. Didn't realize that qualifies as "all over the place." ...Oh, wait. Because it doesn't. Talk about hyperbole.
charter wrote:trying to deflect suspicion away from himself
...What? My three votes were Vamparific (totally random), charter (OMGUS to get me off of completely random) and Porkens (originally for voting on really bad logic). This "suspicion" that was on me when I changed from Vamp to yourself was two "random" votes from raider and charter from at the beginning. This "suspicion" that was on me when I changed from charter to Porkens was... two "random" votes from raider and charter from at the beginning. This is this biggest load of crap I've read in a long while. Please, show me examples of all this suspicion I was allegedly attempting to throw off beyond the one-two vote at the very beginning from yourself and raider.
charter wrote: Every vote he makes comes with worse reasoning than the one before it.
Oh goodness, I guess you're right. Wanting to go from completely random to OMGUS and from OMGUS to voting against bad, premature logic is a horrible progression. That's like... going from random voting to voting with a purpose! That's horrifying!

Your explanation is baseless (please come back with examples to substantiate your claims) and exaggerated. You're attempting to typecast my actions into a preformed notion of what people deem to be scum behavior and it falls flat on its face because it just doesn't fit the mold. Sounds worthy of a
FOS
to me.

Stef wrote:Every1 has the option to scroll and to switch pages. I was allowed to have my fun as much as every1 else.
Uh, you aren't absolved of responsibility of your posts just because people can skip over them. Every post has an impact on the thread's conversation and a multitude of nonsensical posts is detrimental to the town's ability to catch scum. ...Which is the point of the game, by the way. Having fun by derailing a thread is abundantly anti-town fun.
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