Mini 786: Disney-Dreamworks Mafia - Roll Credits (Over)


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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:51 am

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Green Crayons wrote:You're saying town doesn't want confirmed innocents?


Sam, why did you have a sudden hesitation for Khan's lynch yesterday?
They do want confirmed innocents but there's reasonable logic here that would imply that OGML could be pulling a gambit. Townie's don't want confirmed innocents who aren't really confirmed.

I hesitated on Khan's lynch because I was confused about what was going on. You might notice I did pretty much nothing other than ask questions once the Panzer/OGML/Khan was underway because I wasn't sure as to what was going on. By the time everything was explained to me, someone else dropped the hammer.
You went from two game days of attacking Khan but doing nothing to get others to join your attack on him, to "confusion" so great that it took you literally days to come to an understanding of a relatively simple mafia concept which I know you have the experience to understand and which apparently prevented you from voting for the person you had spent two game days voting for and ignoring everything else. I call bullshit.
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:53 am

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Explain to me how the fact that Khan was in fact pulling a gambit (backtracking on his claimed bus drive) to try and get me lynched yesterday in what was likely lylo makes it even remotely likely that I am scum.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:54 am

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Green Crayons, please fully explain once more your claim, and include all chosen targets so far and why you chose them.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:37 am

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OhGodMyLife wrote:
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Green Crayons wrote:You're saying town doesn't want confirmed innocents?


Sam, why did you have a sudden hesitation for Khan's lynch yesterday?
They do want confirmed innocents but there's reasonable logic here that would imply that OGML could be pulling a gambit. Townie's don't want confirmed innocents who aren't really confirmed.

I hesitated on Khan's lynch because I was confused about what was going on. You might notice I did pretty much nothing other than ask questions once the Panzer/OGML/Khan was underway because I wasn't sure as to what was going on. By the time everything was explained to me, someone else dropped the hammer.
You went from two game days of attacking Khan but doing nothing to get others to join your attack on him, to "confusion" so great that it took you literally days to come to an understanding of a relatively simple mafia concept which I know you have the experience to understand and which apparently prevented you from voting for the person you had spent two game days voting for and ignoring everything else. I call bullshit.
a) How can I attack Khan without doing anything to get others to join my attack on him
b) Sorry, the details were confusing to me. Reread the questions I had yesterday. I'd never heard of a bus driver before this game.
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:42 am

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OhGodMyLife wrote:Explain to me how the fact that Khan was in fact pulling a gambit (backtracking on his claimed bus drive) to try and get me lynched yesterday in what was likely lylo makes it even remotely likely that I am scum.
Sure. Scenario: Khan and you are scum buddies. He can bus drive, you can steal stuff from a player. You say you stole a blue cooler from me, which doesn't make any sense, Khan backtracks and accuses you, and you two distance. One of you is lynched. The other is seen as town. We're still in LYLO and now you can pretty much direct the town the way you want them to go.
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:32 am

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OhGodMyLife wrote:Green Crayons, please fully explain once more your claim, and include all chosen targets so far and why you chose them.
I'm Morph. Whoever I pick I change into. Any night actions that target who I changed into are redirected to me. I picked OGML, semi, OGML in that order.


Am I right in assuming Coug just put sam at -1? ...And this quick? Talk about a flashing neon sign reading "Scummy!"

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OhGodMyLife wrote:Explain to me how the fact that Khan was in fact pulling a gambit (backtracking on his claimed bus drive) to try and get me lynched yesterday in what was likely lylo makes it even remotely likely that I am scum.
Sure. Scenario: Khan and you are scum buddies. He can bus drive, you can steal stuff from a player. You say you stole a blue cooler from me, which doesn't make any sense, Khan backtracks and accuses you, and you two distance. One of you is lynched. The other is seen as town. We're still in LYLO and now you can pretty much direct the town the way you want them to go.
Why bother with the whole issue of bringing a non-mafia into the mix? That would seem to invite disaster. Why would Khan go out of his way to make it a him v. OGML if they're both scum? Wouldn't it be smarter to direct attention on a non-mafia player, especially considering being in a head to head doesn't automatically clear the non-lynched?
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:39 am

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Actually, I'm bored with this game and don't feel like waiting for another week to drag out.


vote: sam
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:48 am

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Did GC just pwn me?
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:53 pm

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Lynch achieved. Scene coming.

semioldguy has not picked up his prod. I am starting to search for a replacement now.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:55 pm

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Vote Count


sam.samhorn (3) - OhGodMyLife, StrangerCoug, Green Crayons

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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:04 pm

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Today is the day that everyone decided to beat up on that wierd looking blue dog, that also for some reason can talk... thats odd. Regardless of his speaking abilities, sam.samhorn is beaten into submission, and then a bit more.

Looking at his body its no doubt that he was Stitch as he claimed. Looking closer still, there were no signs of being a part of the mafia that were troubling the area. As you prepare for another night, someone remembers that Stitch is supposed to have more then two arm-legs. There you find something more interesting. A few mafia memorablilia flags.

It looks like he was interested in being a part of the mafia, but was not quite there.


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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:14 am

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xtoxm replaces semioldguy
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:16 am

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semioldguy has shown back up and xtoxm has allowed him to take his spot back, so semioldguy back in for xtoxm.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:36 am

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I expect little to no access this weekend, so will make this breif for now


OhGodMyLife (RJ from Over the Hedge) - Thief - Shot Night Four


Three alive means two to lynch.

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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:54 am

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@Green Crayons
Which of us did you target last night, and why pick that person instead of OhGodMyLife?
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:31 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:
Vote Count from Day Three


StrangerCoug (2) -
OhGodMyLife, Panzerjager

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Not Voting (3) - semioldguy, Green Crayons,
sam.samhorn
In a lynch or lose situation with two innocents voting for one player, I find it highly unlikely that StrangerCoug is innocent as slipping on two votes for a scum win wouldn't have been difficult, especially since those first two votes were there for a long time and while other voting took place.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:33 pm

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Also Po from Kung Fu Panda would make sense as a Mafia Ninja and claiming vanilla would be safe with the revealed weak tracker when we all claimed on Day Three.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:37 pm

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semioldguy wrote:@Green Crayons
Which of us did you target last night, and why pick that person instead of OhGodMyLife?
You. I targeted you prior to the Xtox back and forth.

I picked you because I was trying to do a "outguess the scum" and get myself killed so that I would be taken out of the game. I figured that OGML was pretty much the super-confirmed, so he was the obvious choice of my target. And, while a scum wouldn't want OGML around, I thought I was more suspicious than you, since you were pretty much nonexistent yesterday. Thus, I figured that the scum would want me to be kept alive, so then they wouldn't have gone after OGML, which would have resulted in a me-death instead of an OGML-death, because a OGML-semi-Coug setup looks pretty damming for Coug. So, I figured scum would instead try to kill the non-OGML, non-GC member, but in order to thwart that plan I protected semi in order to put myself in the line of fire and establish the OGML-semi-Coug endgame.

Apparently I added too many layers (or maybe not enough?) in my WIFOM of the scum's actions.

And, if it isn't readily obvious, I'm pretty much convinced Coug is the remaining scum.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:56 pm

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Green Crayons wrote:
OhGodMyLife wrote:Green Crayons, please fully explain once more your claim, and include all chosen targets so far and why you chose them.
I'm Morph. Whoever I pick I change into. Any night actions that target who I changed into are redirected to me. I picked OGML, semi, OGML in that order.

Am I right in assuming Coug just put sam at -1? ...And this quick? Talk about a flashing neon sign reading "Scummy!"
I don't play that there's a wait after which you can put a player after L-1. If I feel that someone is scummy enough to warrant a lynch, then I will vote them.
Green Crayons wrote:Actually, I'm bored with this game and don't feel like waiting for another week to drag out.


vote: sam
. I'd rather just get this over and done with.
Nice going, being apathetic in LYLO. You should be ashamed of yourself if you are town, because in my mind town would care who gets lynched in LYLO.

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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:09 pm

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I am pretty sure of StrangerCoug being the last remaining scum for a variety of reasons already voiced, both recently and much prior, as well as a strong gut feeling. I want to give myself a chance to clear my mind a bit and give the game another quick read to make sure I'm not making a mistake.

Also StranerCoug, I'd appreciate if you came up with a bit more detailed of a case against Green Crayons along with your vote.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:36 am

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semioldguy wrote:Also StranerCoug, I'd appreciate if you came up with a bit more detailed of a case against Green Crayons along with your vote.
sam.samhorn flipped traitor—sometimes the Mafia knows it exists, but they're never told who it is. I don't see Green Crayons hammering sam.samhorn like he did knowing he was on his side, especially since he said he'd "rather just get this over and done with"—that just screams him trying to claim the win with that lynch. The evidence does not lead me to believe that the Mafia knew anything about a traitor at all.

I'm not convinced your scum (the one time you set off my alarm, I bought your defense), and if I'm not mistaken, that you didn't immediately hammer Green Crayons after I voted him in fact clears you.
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:24 am

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I may be a little drunk.

...But Coug is so incredibly scum.
vote: Coug
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If you doubt my suspicious, please reread the obv-town OGML's suspicions and the obv-scum sam's defense of Coug.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:40 am

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Green Crayons wrote:I may be a little drunk.

...But Coug is so incredibly scum.
vote: Coug
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If you doubt my suspicious, please reread the obv-town OGML's suspicions and the obv-scum sam's defense of Coug.
That's not likely to tell semioldguy much of anything, especially since he made me elaborate my case on you, which said more than other people's suspicions of you.

Also, do you have non-WIFOM-related reasons as to why you think OhGodMyLife would have survived last night? What surprises me is that I thought he'd be dead Night 3 instead of Panzerjager—I would think a thief would be more dangerous to scum than a weak tracker, and scum in their right mind is not going to keep a confirmed player around. This doesn't have to be a power role—I was scum faking tracker in Mini 624 that killed a confirmed
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:37 pm

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Where the heck did Mafiaplayer come from!?
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