Super UPick - Abandoned by mods

[Iecerint]

EBWOP: Also, don't shoot BM. Would be a waste IMO. Chances that there's unlynchable scum in this set-up is very very low.

[Iecerint]

D'ya think "Traitor" means "traitor" in the typical sense, or that it means Drench was culted?

[chamber]

Honestly we are dominating this game to such a degree that I don't see 'wasting' a shot as a bad thing. I'd rather 'waste' a shot and guarantee that he dies.

[Iecerint]

3/4 sure ain't bad. Did you guys really come up with that last D1? O_O Could be that Drench wasn't scum yet back then, though.

My bias is to shoot 2 of O, tajo, and Primate with our shots, then lynch BM. If that doesn't work again, shoot him tomorrow and lynch Bogre.

[Iecerint]

EBWOP: But Drench being culted means that only one mason at most is scum, so Primate is definitely one of the ideal shot targets.

Primate, please say some stuff.

[chamber]

I don't see why we can't just lynch those people(ok my sublist would be different form yours) after we make sure boxman is dead and the game isn't over.

[Iecerint]

If BM is the last scum, there's no harm in shooting some people. If he's not, it's better to shoot some people.

[chamber]

If BM is the last scum, there's no harm in shooting some people. If he's not, it's better to shoot some people.

I disagree with both those halfs. I don't want to risk us losing do to him being unlynchable and somehow avoiding kills. Ssk if youd do the honors. We are plenty ahead to dominate any remaining scum with the lynch alone. I don't know if we have that luxury when it comes to BM.

[Iecerint]

Unlynchable scum requires WAY more suspension of disbelief than doublevoting scum IMO. I'd say it's guaranteed that unlynchable scum isn't in the game unless it was someone's rule.

[chamber]

Unlynchable scum requires WAY more suspension of disbelief than doublevoting scum IMO. I'd say it's guaranteed that unlynchable scum isn't in the game unless it was someone's rule.

If there is any chance of it at all why not play it safe?

[Iecerint]

I guess it could've been Drench's rule. Would fit with him keeping it to himself to prevent fakeclaims D1 if we assume that Traitor means Culted.

Mod: Could we have Pome's rolename?

[Iecerint]

I think expected payoff is still better if we try a second lynch first. There's no difference between "wasting" a shot on BM today and "wasting" a lynch on BM today except that we have a chance of finishing the game a little sooner IF he still has scum out there if we shoot today. That assumes that the probabilities of wasting either kind of shot are equal, but I don't think they are because unlynchable BM requires postulating Drench's rule.

So I think we should shoot Primate, then someone else if Primate is town, then lynch BM to end the day.

If there is some nightmare scenario this course of action promotes that I'm not getting, please enlighten me.

[Iecerint]

Also, is your shortlist radically different from mine, or just subtly different?

[chamber]

I think expected payoff is still better if we try a second lynch first. There's no difference between "wasting" a shot on BM today and "wasting" a lynch on BM today except that we have a chance of finishing the game a little sooner IF he still has scum out there if we shoot today. That assumes that the probabilities of wasting either kind of shot are equal, but I don't think they are because unlynchable BM requires postulating Drench's rule.

So I think we should shoot Primate, then someone else if Primate is town, then lynch BM to end the day.

If there is some nightmare scenario this course of action promotes that I'm not getting, please enlighten me.

You have access to another day kill for today? If so please shoot BM. Im positive we can win this with the lynch alone if BM is dead. Therefore my top priority is ensuring he dies. Winning on day 3 or day 7 makes no difference to me.

[chamber]

Also, is your shortlist radically different from mine, or just subtly different?

Somewhere between radical and subtle.

[Iecerint]

I got another one after the shot:

PM from the Mod. I have another shot.

I'm not sure I can use it today, though, come to think of it. Let me check.

I forgot that DN was playing the game. He's O-tier. <_< Dunno if that had anything to do with it.

[Iecerint]

(Spoilers: I'm not going to shoot BM today even if I can. Bully SSK into that if you want. I may shoot Primate, unless you have a compelling argument for someone else.)

[Iecerint]

EBWOPfromawhileago: There's no difference between "wasting" a shot on BM today and "wasting" a lynch on BM today except that we have a chance of finishing the game a little sooner IF he still has scum out there if we shoot

other players who aren't BM

today. fix'd

[chamber]

EBWOPfromawhileago: There's no difference between "wasting" a shot on BM today and "wasting" a lynch on BM today except that we have a chance of finishing the game a little sooner IF he still has scum out there if we shoot

other players who aren't BM

today. fix'd

The difference is if we 'waste' a shot on him we can then lynch him. This guarantees that he's dead come night. If we waste a lynch on him we can't vig kill till tomorrow and I don't wana risk night hijynx ruining that.

[Iecerint]

Hmm. Is probable that they pick up an NK or something, I guess. I still think the unlynchable scum hypothesis is very very remote, though. <_<

[Iecerint]

Also, selective scarequotes are dishonest.

[Bogre]

Or maybe you just don't want to shoot your Godfather.

Understandable, that.

[Iecerint]

The only reason to shoot BM today is that it makes it possible that we could kill both BM and Bogre before N3.

[MafiaSSK]

The only reason to shoot BM today is that it makes it possible that we could kill both BM and Bogre before N3.

I stand by this

[chamber]

The only reason to shoot BM today is that it makes it possible that we could kill both BM and Bogre before N3.

I stand by this

Then lets pretend this is why I want you to shoot BM and get it over with already.