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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:46 am
by CJMiller
Hi.

LYNCH
VOTE: xVEZOKENERx
TOWN
VOTE: Furry

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:48 am
by Nachomamma8
Dana, I'm personally opposed to the mass nameclaim because there are a few more villains then what would be reasonable for a second scumteam {Bowser, Ganondorf, DDD, Meta Knight, Wario, Wolf}, meaning that there is the possibility that there are some townies with villain roles. And I definitely don't want anyone lynched through a nameclaim, especially when there's a high probability of scum having fakeclaims.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:40 am
by danakillsu
@Nacho
Did you read my last post? PUT IT TO rest, plz.
@CJ
Just going to follow everyone else, or do you want to add to the discussion some?

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:10 am
by Kocc42
Town Vote: Furry

Lynch Vote: Mongoose

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:13 am
by SharkFinn
Lynch
VOTE: Mongoose Scummiest player that I've found since subbing in.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:39 am
by mothrax
Let's start with a
lynchvote Mongoose
I would have rather seen him die last night than gandalf, but the bp scrrewed that up. Nacho is even more confirmed town after his stance on roleclaim, for reasons I'm not going to bring up.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:52 pm
by mongoose
I'm actually suprised I wasnt killed last night. I guess it wasnt going to last. Since you guys aren;t reallt giving reasons as to lynch me, I cant really counter them, but I would like to know why Nacho either didnt kill or killed switz ( I presume he didnt kill gollum because to me he looked pretty innocent, and to the traitor mafia he must have too). Either the villain mafia killed switz, or they got blocked and Nacho killed switz. Nacho, what happened last night?

Also, remember, Fate was the one who got nacho the role, and Fate miskilled someone too. That is a bit suspicious too, imo.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:54 pm
by Chronopie
So the BP death due to lynch did nothing? That's good.

But we had "Stabbed" and "Choked" kill flavours... No Smash. Nacho???

Town vote: Furry
Lynch vote: Mongoose

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:55 pm
by mongoose
oh yeah forgot flavor. Disregard most of my post. Sgtill want to know what happened with the smash ball

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:35 pm
by manho
Town Vote: Furry

my vote will be on mongoose or vezo/reck. i'll iso them before casting it.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:46 pm
by Nachomamma8
Framm 18 wrote:If a xVEZOKENERx lynch can't happen since they refuse to talk, then I will be okay with a mongoose lynch.

LYNCH
VOTE: Mongoose Yeah, just looked at the ISO, and not much stands out in a good way.
MehPlusRawr wrote:Yeah, I'd love a mongoose lynch. Him wagoning me d1 was TERRIBLE.
Vote: Mongoose
danakillsu wrote:
Lynch vote: mongoose

Does town voting do something today? It's all a little confusing to me.
CJMiller wrote:Hi.

LYNCH
VOTE: xVEZOKENERx
TOWN
VOTE: Furry
Kocc42 wrote:
Town Vote: Furry

Lynch Vote: Mongoose
SharkFinn wrote:
Lynch
VOTE: Mongoose Scummiest player that I've found since subbing in.
mothrax wrote:Let's start with a
lynchvote Mongoose
I would have rather seen him die last night than gandalf, but the bp scrrewed that up. Nacho is even more confirmed town after his stance on roleclaim, for reasons I'm not going to bring up.
Chronopie wrote:So the BP death due to lynch did nothing? That's good.

But we had "Stabbed" and "Choked" kill flavours... No Smash. Nacho???

Town vote: Furry
Lynch vote: Mongoose


Those are 8 votes. All with either no reasoning at all, or reasoning based on yesterday's knowledge. Don't you think we should look for connections since we've gotten TWO scumflips from both mafia teams now...?

Anyways, mongoose is town for two reasons. He was the only person who noticed that my smash ball hasn't been used. He had 8 people vote for him without a case in less than 24 hours. Please, unvote him now.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:50 pm
by manho
Lynch Vote: xVEZOKENERx


mongoose is clearly a noob, so i'll put him in neutral.
vezo/reck lurking so much is unacceptable.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:51 pm
by Nachomamma8
Kirby is town because he was the counterwagon to the diddin wagon, and there's no way that the only two D1 wagons we formed were both on scum. Also, his bandwagon disintegrated far too quickly for it to be brimming with townies. Quick wagon changes are normally from people realizing they have bad reasoning, which is normally difficult for townies to do since we're naturally stubborn once we believe we've found scum. I see no stubborn townies in 5 people leaving a wagon in 24 hours, with the only two people staying on lurkers who were replaced a short time afterwards.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:52 pm
by Nachomamma8
I'll explain the smash ball situation when I can.

I can say that I didn't target Gollum/Switz.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:54 pm
by Nachomamma8
My vote is on Vezo-Reck because Reck just got back from caffwagon, so he should be available to at least take a quick glance over the game. I'm also expecting his return would be him prodding vezok to stop lurking and actually come into the topic to say something, and considering how much they believed they deserved the smash ball D1, I'm pretty damn interested in what they have to say.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:55 pm
by manho
Nachomamma8 wrote:Kirby is town because he was the counterwagon to the diddin wagon, and there's no way that the only two D1 wagons we formed were both on scum. Also, his bandwagon disintegrated far too quickly for it to be brimming with townies. Quick wagon changes are normally from people realizing they have bad reasoning, which is normally difficult for townies to do since we're naturally stubborn once we believe we've found scum. I see no stubborn townies in 5 people leaving a wagon in 24 hours, with the only two people staying on lurkers who were replaced a short time afterwards.
i think it's a null tell / non-traitor tell only. kirby may just be a randomly selected counterwagon, so he can still be villain scum.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:05 pm
by Fate
Lynch vote: Vezok


Yo Nacho, why isn't a lurker smashed? I want answers I trusted you boi.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:11 pm
by Nachomamma8
That's still EXTREMELY unlikely. I can link to more perfect games than I can to games where the only major wagons of D1 were on scum.

Also,
Kirbyoshi wrote:Gollum, we have like 3 or 4 mods. I'm sure that, between them, they can get the job done. If they didn't want us to Town Vote, they would not have put that mechanic in the game.

Also Gollum, about the use of the smash ball: It's possible--and for some people, easy--to be the towniest person in the game and still be scum. Therefore, I don't think only having 2 final smashers is a good idea. Not really that it locks us in, but it may blind us. Just saying.
Kirbyoshi wrote:@Gollum's 204: *Keeps hand down* BAD post. BAD. We want as long of a Day phase as we feel comfortable having and still getting a lynch, in order to drag out as much info as possible. And relying on flavor this early in the game is also a horrible idea. I've read one SSB Mafia game, and been in another. In one of them, the Mafia was the bad guys; in the other, the Mafia was actually characters that were in Melee, but got shafted for Brawl, and so disguised themselves as Brawl characters (with Tabuu as an indy, iirc). So, in other words, we CANNOT rely on flavor, at least not this early.

It's even less likely for Kirby to be Villain Mafia because he was pretty much one of the only people who even thought there was a chance of Gollum being scum.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:12 pm
by Fate
*shrug* wagon analysis' has nevar failed me before

Town Vote: Kirby

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:14 pm
by Nachomamma8
Gollum wrote:We have a question for the Kirby. Why did ssself place a unssseriouses town vote on Diddin ases ssself claims in ISO #4, what wases point?
Also, I never would see scum try to tie his partner to confirmed scum from a different faction like this. It's small enough that he wouldn't even get townpoints for distancing with a Kirbyscum flip, but it's big enough to make people rethink the Kirby case...

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:14 pm
by Nachomamma8
Fate wrote:
Lynch vote: Vezok


Yo Nacho, why isn't a lurker smashed? I want answers I trusted you boi.
I told you I'd tell you when I could ;[

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:15 pm
by Fate
Kirbyoshi (7):
frayed
, Pikachu, MafiaSSK, I doubt it, Chronopie,
diddin
, tanstalas


MehPlusRawr (3): Bunnylover, seth, Furry
Kirbyoshi (2): MafiaSSK, I doubt it
MafiaSSK (1): SocioPath
Brain Hollywood (1):
Gollum

seth (4):
gandalf5166,
mongoose, MehPlusRawr, seth
diddin (11):
Nachomamma8, Switz
, manho, Kocc42, zaziesurio, xVEZOKNERx,
Fate
, Pikachu,
frayed,
SGRaaize
, Kirbyoshi, Chronopie
Switz
(1): PaltryExcuse
xVEZOKNERx (2): Framm 18,
diddin
, tanstalas


Vezokner is a realllll good choice.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:20 pm
by Furry
Lynch Vote Chronopie


Why did you vote someone that you were convinced was a regularly activated BP?

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:49 pm
by Fate
ggggafrrrrrrrwjeioqnWGGAW

CHRONOPIE.

EVERYTIME I READ YOUR POSTS I WANNA PUNCH A GOD DAMN BABY.

POST CONTENT FOR FUCKS SAKE.

That said, Furry, he might actually be town.

In that stupid, too dumb to be called VI, kind of way.

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:50 pm
by Stels
Internet, finally.
danakillsu wrote:@CJ
Just going to follow everyone else, or do you want to add to the discussion some?
From the games I've read involving CJMiller, it's pointless to get any words out of him except for Votes and one liners.
Nachomamma8 wrote:Anyways, mongoose is town for two reasons. He was the only person who noticed that my smash ball hasn't been used. He had 8 people vote for him without a case in less than 24 hours. Please, unvote him now.
mongoose wrote:I'm actually suprised I wasnt killed last night. I guess it wasnt going to last. Since you guys aren;t reallt giving reasons as to lynch me, I cant really counter them, but
I would like to know why Nacho either didnt kill or killed switz
( I presume he didnt kill gollum because to me he looked pretty innocent, and to the traitor mafia he must have too).
Either the villain mafia killed switz, or they got blocked and Nacho killed switz
.
Nacho, what happened last night?
mongoose wrote:oh yeah forgot flavor. Disregard most of my post.
Sgtill want to know what happened with the smash ball
To me, he probably doesn't know that you didn't use the smash-ball until you posted that fact. Yeah, he speculated the possibility that you didn't use it, but he is confused about what happened. Ofc, you gotta give him credit for considering the possibility.

I'm fine with lynching Vezok, that hydra lurker
Lynch Vote: Vezok

Also fine with Nacho-logic -
Town Vote: Kirby