Objection Redux - It's all over bar the shouting!

[Gammagooey]

I was thinking Socio earlier but if he is scum I'm pretty sure he's yo' scumbuddy at this point.

[SocioPath]

Vezok is town until tomorrow.
Simple as that.

[UncertainKitten]

How interesting. And why is Socio scum again?

And that's nice Socio. Thank you for that contribution.

[Jahudo]

Jahudo: Who's my scumbuddy?

Vague answer: One of these guys

I don't recall if I've played with socio, almaster, or GG before and all 3 of them are under my radar right now so neutral on those 3.

A good way to avoid shining light on a scumbuddy that is keeping a low profile and staying out of trouble.

Specific answer: AGM

also where do I call rhinox town. I have no read on him because he ISN'T POSTING, which makes sense.

SNIPE EDIT: OMG now rhinox is here too, god now i have to read him and rethink eveerrything.

Basically treats Rhinox the same way, says he'll make a read but I don't think he ever does.

[UncertainKitten]

Intriguing. Anything else on AGM?

[Jahudo]

I have town vibes on Gamma. And AGM earned a recent suspicion for looking fence-sitty behavior on socio and vezok. he's voting vezok but hasn't gone back on saying vezok looks like a mislynch. and sure he unvoted socio but still said his reasoning might not mean much.

Now maybe Socio is scum but I think he plays this style well as either alignment so its hard to tell on its own, and he isn't connected to Rhinox as much. I think knowing vezok and/or UK's alignment first would help me with Socio.

[vezokpiraka]

I think Jahudo is scum with UK.

[Faraday]

Vote count 4.5
Vezokpiraka (2)

UncertainKitten, AlmasterGM

UncertainKitten(3)

Jahudo, Veokpiraka, Sociopath

Not voting (2):

GammaGooey,DTMaster

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline's the 30th @ 8pm GMT
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[UncertainKitten]

Thank you Vezok.

Now you know what would be nice?

If you actually provided fucking reasons for anything you say rather than saying it and hoping we don't notice

Do so. NOW.

[AlmasterGM]

This stuff about me never casing Rhinox is bullshit because he got vigged that night, so I had no reason to case him. The "fencesititng on socio" argument is equally dumb because Jahudo admits in the SAME POST that Socio is difficult to read. If somebody is difficult to read, your analysis of them is going to naturally look like fencesitting since there's not going to be much going either way for them (e.g., I'm not going to bust out and say OMG SOCIOS OBVTOWN because of some minute meta argument).

Vezok simply cannot be allowed to live any more. Simple as that. Yeah, MAYBE he's just dumbtown. But there's no evidence of that, and there never will be because he doesn't post anything. It's lynch teim.

[Jahudo]

Good defense AGM, maybe I'm wrong about you. Anyway, choosing between vezok and UK is the play for today.

Vezok's latest post is consistent with his earlier posts, but only he knows why he feels that way.

First off,

unvote: vezok

. Softclaim is meh and she still hasn't done anything but there are better lynches.

^looks like shitty distancing after getting an easy reason to unvote his partner

Couldn't Rhinox have also done this if vezok was town? The vezok wagon was going nowhere, so staying on it might begin to look like tunneling. And vezok-town probably wouldn't look like a threat to scum because he was sheeping Fate and not role confirmed or anything. So he would be a less useful, anti-town looking player if they could NK Fate and keep him around.

[AlmasterGM]

Jahudo, what do you do if vezok is in lylo?

[Gammagooey]

So I'm a little disapointed that nobody else is trying to find what I did on UK but whatever.
Also @Jahudo I'm not gonna go into vezok stuff anymore until tommorrow since I think UK just became more likely scum than him.

In the entire last page UK goes off on a questioning rampage AFTER Socio puts the L-1 vote on her.
And I'm not voting her.

I'm pretty sure town-UK would have realized that I physically can't be scum unless I'm in a 2-man team with DT or something equally ridiculous is going on with DT's Beloved Princess claim, and she's mentioned nothing to suggest she's thinking that way.

UK pretty clearly notes the vote on her from Socio so it's not like she missed it and thinks she's still at L-2.
The answer to why she hasn't realized that I would be cleared is because she subconsciously knows that people who aren't voting her now AREN'T cleared townies- she Hasn't thought "I'm town so what do the votes currently in place say about people's alignments?", she's just asking a bunch of mostly already answered questions to make it look like she's scumhunting and try and save herself from the noose.

UK is just scums.

Now a vote would go here and it would be awesome and everything except DT Stillllllll isn't here yet and it makes me sad.

[SocioPath]

VEZOK is NOT the play for TODAY.

[Jahudo]

Jahudo, what do you do if vezok is in lylo?

This assumes we've caught another scums and I'm in the game still? I would re-look at vezok and see if he has any better connections to scum, but right now I don't buy the connection to Rhinox.

If you think getting rid of town-vezok has any benefit, then I would disagree because I don't see him as a VI.

[UncertainKitten]

AGM, vezok's buddy?

And that's nice Socio. But you're wrong.

VEZOK WILL GET HIS ASS LYNCHED TODAY

@Gamma: You do note that Vezok is voting me, right? Further, what reason have I to believe DTM? I've had suspicions from the start about the function of his role. Why would scum hammer if they weren't sure? I can't imagine they'd make that bet.

Further, I questioned you because you disappeared. I actually suspect Socio is Vezok's scumbuddy at this juncture, but my questions led me there.

[AlmasterGM]

Socio and vezok are not buddies. Socio would have bussed by now. I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THIS ONE.

[AlmasterGM]

This assumes we've caught another scums and I'm in the game still? I would re-look at vezok and see if he has any better connections to scum, but right now I don't buy the connection to Rhinox.

What connections are you going to look at? Vezok has made ONE POST longer than 2 lines. His votes jump all over the place. You can spin the vezokwheel and it'll point in whatever direction you want.

[AlmasterGM]

Also DTM is BROWSING THE FORUM and needs to post.

[UncertainKitten]

Then who's his buddy, AGM?

[AlmasterGM]

I don't know.

[UncertainKitten]

Interesting.

[AlmasterGM]

Why is it interesting?

[Jahudo]

Deadline is coming soon. Moar DTM (and Gamma) thoughts please.

This assumes we've caught another scums and I'm in the game still? I would re-look at vezok and see if he has any better connections to scum, but right now I don't buy the connection to Rhinox.

What connections are you going to look at? Vezok has made ONE POST longer than 2 lines. His votes jump all over the place. You can spin the vezokwheel and it'll point in whatever direction you want.

I guess mostly how the dead scum treated today's vezok wagon and the day 1 wagon.

The first part is normal vezok meta. The second part doesn't seem abnormal in this game (he's voted VV, Magnus, Socio, and UK for scum picks; DTM for strategy) although you have to take into account that he was sheeping Fate (something he does in other games too).

[UncertainKitten]

That you'd not think about who makes sense as a buddy with vezok this late in the game. At this point you have to think about connections.