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↑ Medicated Lain wrote:Wait I'm confused... Mist, you are quoting the post above you, #694, but the quote you are making doesn't show in that post.... what's up with that?

It was in his signature.

Umbrage's post was good until he said "which is why EK is scum."

I'm going to put my vote on LG for aforementioned reasons.

^^ That post was meant to be #700, I didn't refresh. Vote remains as is, we've already wasted 2 whole days on Umbrage.

The blackiest creature you ever could view Vote Count

Personally still happy with the umbrage vote. He seems completely unwilling to help the town, so I think we need to find out more about this before moving on.

ISOing IS, be back soon.

I find SpyreX's obsession and paranoia over DGB very disturbing.

I find vollkan's attack on IS full of OMGUS.

I want a few more votes on Umbrage to be sure we can't kill him before we try to lynch somebody else.

Can we please get umbrage up to L+2 or in that neighborhood so we can actually test what he is claiming? This really should not take this many days.

vote yourself umbrage

Yeah, I would like to see an overlynch on Umbrage because you never know. Maybe he's SK or GF and instead of NK immunity he has to be overlynched. There's no harm in trying.

Forget it. I have fucking proven scum in EK, and the best she can do is argue that I should be lynched just to see if it's possible. NO.

You lot keep saying I should do something for the town, well, maybe if one of you would come up with an original thought and stop this bullshit, I'd be able to contribute something to the discussion. You think I like this fuckery? You think I enjoy watching town fuck up so hard? You think I'm doing this to be the centre of attention? Every one of my actions thus far have been to get the town focused on finding scum, and I keep getting drowned out by the same shitposters.

Once this game is over, I fucking own you all. Got it? Once I am proved right in the end, as I have been in... let me see... I believe 2 other games now? Oh no, 3, I forgot about Charlie the Unicorn... anyway, yeah, I fucking own you. I deserve a Scummy for Most Patient Saint. Of course that'll never happen since I don't play popularity contests.

Fuck it, I don't need to say anymore, I have fucking confirmed scum. So when your strategy of MOAR VOTES DERP fails to shut me up, play to your wincons and vote EK.

you forgot to vote yourself in that post. much obliged.

stop pretending that you're some kind of Cassandra

you're acting like a raving dickhole, so no one wants to listen to you. If e_k turns out to be scum no one is going to say "oh man, we should have listened to Umbrage". You have so far failed to make any convincing or logical arguments about why she is "proven scum".

Again, if you want people on your side, you need to stop doing what you're doing.

↑ Umbrage wrote:Forget it. I have fucking proven scum in EK, and the best she can do is argue that I should be lynched just to see if it's possible. NO.

Where did I say that the reason I want to lynch you is to see if it's possible?

That's not the reason.

It's because your cases are such shit and you're an asshole.

Yeah if Im wrong in this game, which is possible, Ive been wrong before, then in no way do I feel you helped at all during the game. Your attitude is one of the worst I've seen in a game and you certainly have impeded town if you are.

If he's that princess role that requires +1 vote to lynch, he should be lynched.

↑ elvis_knits wrote:I want a few more votes on Umbrage to be sure we can't kill him before we try to lynch somebody else.

How many more? And all I've seen are you guys just railing on Umbrage who isn't the world's most likeable guy. If we can decide on something concrete (# of votes before we do something useful) then fine, I'll put my vote back on him, but it seems to me like you want him policy-vigged even if he gets 14+votes and survives. I agree that he is a huge pain, and I don't see why EK is obvscum, but if you're both pro-town this is an incredible waste of time. I've heard of roles where people need less votes to be lynched, but rarely for people to be able to survive a lynch. Is this sort of role unheard of?

I could really go for a vollkan or UT lynch at this point. I mean, if this really is a clusterfuck of town-town fighting, scum are sitting there laughing, so we should wagon somebody who is quietly fueling the fire (vollkan, LG) or somebody who has done noooooooooothing (UT)

EK's words.

You aren't helping Mist, please vote and stick on Umbrage. Your vote on Gurgi will only, ONLY be of interest if we make sure Umbrage isn't lynchable first.

↑ Mist Beauty wrote:
How many more? And all I've seen are you guys just railing on Umbrage who isn't the world's most likeable guy. If we can decide on something concrete (# of votes before we do something useful) then fine, I'll put my vote back on him, but it seems to me like you want him policy-vigged even if he gets 14+votes and survives. I agree that he is a huge pain, and I don't see why EK is obvscum, but if you're both pro-town this is an incredible waste of time. I've heard of roles where people need less votes to be lynched, but rarely for people to be able to survive a lynch. Is this sort of role unheard of?

it literally would not take any work for you to just park your vote on Umbrage for a little while so we can sort this out. the LG thing isn't going to happen right now, so all you're really doing is wasting our time while soft-pushing a lynch and not really saying anything

ninjaedit

goddammit poro said it first

↑ VP Baltar wrote:you forgot to vote yourself in that post. much obliged.

Bullshit.

↑ Untrod Tripod wrote:stop pretending that you're some kind of Cassandra

you're acting like a raving dickhole, so no one wants to listen to you. If e_k turns out to be scum no one is going to say "oh man, we should have listened to Umbrage". You have so far failed to make any convincing or logical arguments about why she is "proven scum".

Again, if you want people on your side, you need to stop doing what you're doing.

Bullshit.

↑ elvis_knits wrote:

↑ Umbrage wrote:Forget it. I have fucking proven scum in EK, and the best she can do is argue that I should be lynched just to see if it's possible. NO.

Where did I say that the reason I want to lynch you is to see if it's possible?

That's not the reason.

It's because your cases are such shit and you're an asshole.

Bullshit.

↑ Porochaz wrote:Yeah if Im wrong in this game, which is possible, Ive been wrong before, then in no way do I feel you helped at all during the game. Your attitude is one of the worst I've seen in a game and you certainly have impeded town if you are.

Bullshit.

↑ Porochaz wrote:You aren't helping Mist, please vote and stick on Umbrage. Your vote on Gurgi will only, ONLY be of interest if we make sure Umbrage isn't lynchable first.

Bullshit.

↑ Untrod Tripod wrote:

↑ Mist Beauty wrote:
How many more? And all I've seen are you guys just railing on Umbrage who isn't the world's most likeable guy. If we can decide on something concrete (# of votes before we do something useful) then fine, I'll put my vote back on him, but it seems to me like you want him policy-vigged even if he gets 14+votes and survives. I agree that he is a huge pain, and I don't see why EK is obvscum, but if you're both pro-town this is an incredible waste of time. I've heard of roles where people need less votes to be lynched, but rarely for people to be able to survive a lynch. Is this sort of role unheard of?

it literally would not take any work for you to just park your vote on Umbrage for a little while so we can sort this out. the LG thing isn't going to happen right now, so all you're really doing is wasting our time while soft-pushing a lynch and not really saying anything

ninjaedit

goddammit poro said it first

Bullshit.

Nothing useful or new in any of these posts.

I'm starting to think that Umbrage is a lynch+x jester and is trying to get us to lynch him

because there is no possible town motivation for you to be like this

Maybe he's an unlychable jester and that's why he says it's a bastard game.

Lets get this done with so we can move ahead. If that requires freaking everyone to do this so it can be done FINE.

That said:

@Umbrage:

Deep breath. Look at whats been happening and think about the ek/DGB business holistically. In all four scenarios considering DGB wasn't going up the rope for real at that point ek-scum throwing everything in defense makes absolutely no sense.

This acidic play you've went into isn't helping matters. Reign it in.

As for DGB, once again:

How do you balance an unlynchable townie in Lylo? Erm. You can't. That so reeks of SK/Survivor.

Without delving into madness with how all of today as went, look at this.

Now, lets think back to the sum number of games played here. How many of those have had, if not actually unlynchable definitely unlynchable townies?

I could probably think of a dozen methods in which that happens. Off the top of my head. Compared to the number of unlynchable third party/scum? Wooo

This particular throw is ridiculously scummy.

This is from scum.

I personally don't recall playing a game where there was an un-lynchable player (I am getting old, maybe I forget). BUT. I have a vague recollection of a player that needed to be lynched TWICE, but I forget what alignment that role was.

Were I to design a game with say, a one-shot lynch survival, I'd give that role to an SK or Survivor, not a townie.

SpyreX you on the other hand speak as if you have vast amounts of experience with this, but you're coy on the details on how such a role would work or be balanced. Personally, I can't make heads or tails of your post here, preceding mine.



What in the moonbeams are you saying? Please show your calculations for the .

↑ Untrod Tripod wrote:I'm starting to think that Umbrage is a lynch+x jester and is trying to get us to lynch him

because there is no possible town motivation for you to be like this

It also makes the game extraordinarily unpleasant. I was hoping to have fun in this game, instead, it's giving me (that's a KITH quote, hey!).

Can we try to keep the unicorns and rainbows and senses of humor? Even when we address players we think are scum, or are disagreeing with us?

Part of this is, like I said, I'm talking practical unlynchability versus the "role" of being unlynchable as well - because, your argument was an unlynchable role at lylo doesn't work for town - which would be only one scenario where there could be actual gripes: if someone who was town and unlynchable managed to hide this until lylo (otherwise he'd just get killed).

Which, if we really have to go through the motions of the number of practical unlynchables we see as town at lylo well we will but I'd be rather wroth.

Compare that to scum unlynchables - maaybe a governor but, again, the chances of seeing a full scum governor with no caveats is small (and rediculously unbalanced). Third party is a little easier to stomach but even then its hard to swallow. Balance issues there are mitigated.

If this is a one-shot that doesn't end the day (and the latter is pretty much apparent) then suuree we can argue that part of it but thats not what you were saying. You went unlynchable = not town. And that's the scum part.

It also makes the game extraordinarily unpleasant. I was hoping to have fun in this game, instead, it's giving me a pain in my head that makes it hard for me to live (that's a KITH quote, hey!).

Can we try to keep the unicorns and rainbows and senses of humor? Even when we address players we think are scum, or are disagreeing with us?

Regardless of anything else I'm in complete agreement with this.

You know I've got nothin but <3 for you right DGB? I'm talkin IRL AND META OHHHH

↑ Umbrage wrote:Forget it. I have fucking proven scum in EK

I actually laughed.