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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:08 pm
by Glork
Yeah, that's what I'm not getting.

idk if Grey thought he was trapped here or what. I'm trying to read back to figure that out right now.

Vote count
(7 players alive = 4 to lynch)

Not voting
: BBmolla, Dazzy, Glork, GreyICE, inte, PeregrineV, Yates

Deadline
: Tuesday 24 April 16:00 CET

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:11 pm
by GreyICE
Hey here's a random idea. I'm town, and a Troll. Like, the race, not the internet kind.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:12 pm
by Glork
Running numbers. Sec here.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:14 pm
by PeregrineV
No time tonight. Maybe tomorrow after work.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:16 pm
by Glork
PV, we're massclaiming and it's your turn.

You have two minutes to write up your name/role/race real quick.

Go.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:16 pm
by Glork
EBWOP: In fact, claiming here iwthout being able to read what happened today only gives you plus protown points if your claim checks out.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:19 pm
by Glork
I'm pretty sure BB is still the play.


It's 4-2-1.
We lynch BBMolla today.


Scenario 1:

If he flips Trollscum, then Grey is Trollscum.
If it's 4-2-0 (BB is the SK) --> I vig Grey. He can reciprocal kill me, and his faction can nightkill, which would leave a 2-1 LyLo tomorrow, with Dazzy as confirmed town. OR he can protect himself, and his scumbuddy kills me. Then we have a 3-2 tomorrow, but you just lynch Grey tomorrow and wind up in a 2-1 LyLo anyway.
If it's 4-1-1 (BB is groupscum) --> I vig grey, and he MUST protect himself or his faction loses. Dazzy switches ONE OF [Glork/Dazzy] with ONE OF [PV, inte, Yates]. Worst case scenario, we wind up with a 3-2 LyLo with one of the confirmeds being dead.

Scenario 2:

BB flips protown.
We're at 3-2-1 regardless.
The SK
MUST
attempt to crosskill, or the scums will lose.
So, Grey shoots at inte
Glork shoots at PV.
Dazzy flips a coin. Heads, he redirects himself/Yates. Tails, he does nothing.




I think that's right. Give me a few to review.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:19 pm
by Glork
EBWOP: Sorry, that should read "or the scums will WIN."

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:21 pm
by Glork
No, that's not right. Dazzy flips a coin.
Heads, he switches
one of [Glork, Dazzy]
with
one of [Grey, PV]
.
Tails he does nothing.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:23 pm
by GreyICE
Meh, BB flips town, and I'm flipping a coin on vigging you for that post.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:25 pm
by Glork
However, I believe BB will flip scum.

There are currently:
5 Dead protown Gobbos
1 Dead GODFATHER Gobbo

There is literally no point to my role if Trolls are protown.


None of this makes sense from a setup perspective if Trolls are allowed to be protown. I think Grey sensed that I had things just about on lockdown when I asked Dazzy if he could redirect to/from himself, and had to gambit.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:25 pm
by Glork
GreyICE wrote:Meh, BB flips town, and I'm flipping a coin on vigging you for that post.

I'm perfectly happy to crossvig you at this point.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:26 pm
by GreyICE
Glork, I am going to spend the entire post-game mocking you if you're town.

Literally.
The.
Entire.
Post.
Game.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:28 pm
by Glork
If you're protown, you're more than welcome to. Wouldn't be the first time I lost a game, and it's not likely to be the last.

I'm playing the numbers. Odds are, BB and you are scum. Not much else I can do at this point.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:30 pm
by Glork
Grey, what do YOU think the play is today? And what do we do tonight depending on YOUR projected lynchee's flip?

I don't see you working towards a solution. You're just trying to puff out your chest and out-ego me, but I'm not in ego mode. I'm in "Figure this the fuck out so we can actually win" mode.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:32 pm
by Glork
Wait. Flavor is fucking tech.


Throw out everything I said before.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:34 pm
by GreyICE
You could play the game of mafia!

What in all of creation would make you think I'm scum with BBMolla? ANYTHING?!?

And moreover, why would I defend a serial killer as scum? Yeah, that's smart. Defend the guy whose probably bulletproof and I need lynched AND claim scum so he can know exactly who to shoot if he needs to crosskill.

Why would I claim this as his scumbuddy?

You know what? Whatever. If BBMolla flips scum, go ahead and shoot me. It just means that the game is riding on me making the right shot, because you've chosen to make the wrong one. And frankly, I'm fine with that.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:34 pm
by Glork
I have to go for a bit

But

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Nurgle


I'm going to come back to this "Nurgle" thing later.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:39 pm
by GreyICE
Father Nurgle, the Chaos God of Disease, one of the four great Chaos Gods. Yes, yes, yes. I know who Nurgle is.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:53 pm
by GreyICE
Now the right play at the moment is pretty simple where I'm sitting. We need 2/3 of the lynches to hit scum for this to be a win. Thus

Dazzy is either scum who shot Majiffy for a great fakeclaim, or town. This is an easy fix. Scum busdriver is stupid in this sort of game. Therefore:

I shoot Dazzy tonight. Dazzy drives herself with our real target. If she can't do that, she's dead. So either we have one scum death, or have one confirmed role (and if there's a scum busdriver we lose anyway)

Since that leaves us with a pool of 4 targets, of which if Dazzy is scum two are scum, and if Dazzy is town 3 are scum, we're pretty much set. Either:

We have 3 shots into a pool of 4 players with 3 scum in it that we need to hit two to be correct OR
We have 2 shots into a pool of 4 players with 2 scum in it that we need to hit one to be correct

Obviously this goes down the drain if you're scum, but c'est la vie. If I have to count on one town read this game, it'll be you.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:01 pm
by Glork
OK, I'm back. Sorry.

So, this isn't as conclusive as I thought. Unless the scums are all, like... demons and shit.


Maybe BB town, Grey Town, Glork Town, Dazzy town?

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:02 pm
by Glork
Yeah, Grey, you shooting Dazzy is exactly what I was thinking when I asked if he could self-protect.


I'm thinking

Lynch PV
You vig Dazzy
Dazzy redirects [Dazzy, inte]
Glork shoots Ghostlin

Win?

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:07 pm
by Glork
Yeah. I'm p sure that the other scums are, like... "beast of nurgle" and shit. They're fucking monsters.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:51 pm
by inte
Dazzy redirect to yates instead

Thanks,

-the management

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:53 pm
by inte
You know, I'm actually calling bullshit on grey's vig status