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Why vote Trollie? You earlier indicated a preference for BK.

Because BK's claim of "vague power role that you don't want to lynch me stuff things" is more likely to be true than Trollie's. Personally I think both are scum/

It is possible, depending on the answer, that I can clear or condemn certain players, which would make thing earlier. However, if you feel it's too close to rolefishing, then feel free to ignore me. (There is no sarcasm there, just to be clear)

^that sounds interesting. oh yeah, phil is town in case i havent said that before.

Mala keeps switching from being a cautious player to being very aggressive and commanding. Something is fishy.

VOTE: mala

might decide to change him to my quarantine but check out his comments about BK and I...then also look at his ISO and how his disposition is constantly changing.

↑ Phillammon wrote:It is possible, depending on the answer, that I can clear or condemn certain players, which would make thing earlier. However, if you feel it's too close to rolefishing, then feel free to ignore me. (There is no sarcasm there, just to be clear)

That's what I thought. But my answer wont be of any help.

Prodding NabakovNabakov.

I'm gonna try to at least keep up with the thread so I don't have to do much catch up on monday, but I cant promise active posting.

happy birthday.

↑ TheTrollie wrote:breadcrum meaning like do things to try to get an idea of who to watch? If so, not really, i didn't have any really good idea of how to do that.

I watched sword today because he was my strongest town read, and i thought he was the player least likely to attract votes today (hence a good nk target)

i guess i could be blind or there is a mafia roleblocker, Now is a good time to quarantine the second scummiest player so that we have double the chance of preventing a roleblock tomorrow night.

I've never heard of a blind watcher and don't see the point in having one. If you're telling the truth then you were roleblocked. Out of all the players, I don't see why you were roleblocked night 1, the only thing I could think of was you breadcrumbed you were a PR and they picked up on it.

Trollie, I didn't see any breadcrumb in your iso. by breadcrumb I mean drop a subtle hint that you are a PR.

What makes Phillammon's question to guille2015 seem fishy to me is that he hasn't committed himself to saying anything if guille2015 reveals that he has a role, aside from vague promises that Phillammon might be able to clear or condemn people. He could easily be scum trying to gain some information from guille2015 and planning to claim that guille2015's answer is the "wrong" one for him to draw any conclusions from regardless. I plan to ISO Phillammon in the near future.

Lynch Phillammon.

↑ drmyshotgun wrote:Lynch Phillammon.

Why?

I don't think Phill was rolefishing. He's way too forward about it to be doing that.

↑ BK201 wrote:I don't think Phill was rolefishing. He's way too forward about it to be doing that.

I agree.

I don't see how I'm being aggressive or commanding nor am I being cautious either. The Swords NK was odd because I would have figured that one of the two (Trollie or Bk) would have been killed. Mainly because it looks like a watcher could be an easy threat and BK's soft claim of his role could be that's he hiding a strong town PR. Now because neither got killed I am thinking that one or even possibility of both could be scum.

I don't see how a blind watcher would be realistic. So either you are lying about being a watcher or the scum has a RB PR.

The problem with the blind watcher is that that would make this game into a bastard game, which I don't think it is. I asked him to clarify the wording in his posts. Both say "no result". Which would mean that he was blocked twice. And it makes sense from a mafia viewpoint. This also adds to the mix that Phil and Espe are not the mafia RB. This, off course, assuming that the trollie is telling the truth.

↑ TheTrollie wrote:ok, claim time then...

I am a town watcher.

Last night I watched Richard but I must have been blocked by someone because I got no result

↑ TheTrollie wrote:imma kill someone.

I watched sword. No result.

I estimate that there are 3 mafia among us.
From my point of view.
- I wondered why BK was not killed last night.
- Drmy looks like a Jester.
- The trollie seems trustworthy.
- Phil acted townish.

This 4 I am not inclined to vote for today. The rest NabNab, Mala, image, and Espeonage. NabNab has gone missing. Espeonage is the one leaning most towards town.

@Image, can you give me your current reads on the players at the moment.

VOTE: Phillammon

How are you not inclined to not vote for BK when you just stated that you wondered why he wasn't killed. Personally due to BK not being Nk'd after he stated that he has a role along with him not wanting to reveal it. While he continuously decides to be scummy in his actions. Telling that Trollie needed to watch him because he was sure he was going to get Nk'd.. All of that seems scummy plays to me and not town.

Sorry, forgot to V/LA before I went to the Quidditch tournament. Home now, in pain and tired so don't expect much.

↑ drmyshotgun wrote:

Quarantine: Guille

VOTE: Phillammon

Reasons?

↑ Malakittens wrote:How are you not inclined to not vote for BK when you just stated that you wondered why he wasn't killed. Personally due to BK not being Nk'd after he stated that he has a role along with him not wanting to reveal it. While he continuously decides to be scummy in his actions. Telling that Trollie needed to watch him because he was sure he was going to get Nk'd.. All of that seems scummy plays to me and not town.

Vote:BK

Assuming Trollie is telling the truth;
-I don't know why scum didn't try to NK me or Trollie.
-I suggested Trollie watch me b/c that discourages roleblocker from targeting me, even though I claimed unknown PR which is probably scarier than known watcher. Though apparently not, again if Trollie is telling the truth.
-Stop trying to make me claim.

I think that at least one of BK201 and drmyshotgun is scum. I don't like drmyshotgun's play, and I don't think we should dismiss him as a jester. His early play didn't come off that way, and it makes far too easy of an excuse for him to act scummy. (Also, I hate the role of jester and I hope Richard didn't include one.

Phillammon on reread comes off as fairly scummy and I think claims like "That looks too much like unashamed rolefishing to be unashamed rolefishing" hold much water as a defence.