That does not answer Voided's question. Why are you voting Syryana?
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:12 am
by Oversoul
I'm voting Syr for not any one reason but for multiple things in his play that don't seem right. They are mostly off hand comments that I feel better describe someone's mentality than long drawn out posts
One is Syr lashing at BBmolla for saying if he and Parama were scumbuddies he would have hammered a long time ago and then once Param asked why Syr was voting Parama Syr replied because he was bussing his scumbuddy.
One is Tierce pointing out that Syr just completely left out a point that he earlier accused Parama when Syr made his big post
One is the fact that imo he was trying to either weaken the town read on my slot and Tierce's slot toward the tail of the day yesterday or get a better idea on what to do with Tierce and I
Plus there is the added fact that I think Parama was most likely a counterwagon to scum which would mean Syr because Parama openly expressed that he did not like Syr and so it was very important that Parama died before Syr
pedit: Tierce calm down
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:20 am
by Tierce
...I'm calm?
Actually reading through stuff will happen later. I need answers to those questions and I need a fresh head.
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:25 am
by Oversoul
I don't know if it is the way you speak (type) but it seems like you are always agitated unless you do one of those parnethetidals or puppy or ~
I hope you don't take offence to that it is just my impression
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:31 am
by Tierce
It's Mogget's party hat. Srs :PARTY: cat means srs bsns.
Me being agitated tends to have a lot of BBcode abuse for emphasis. It was a legitimate question. Chill.
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:32 am
by Tierce
...So much for that attempt at disabling BBcode. Feh. Bed.
My BBMolla scumread died with Parama as it was mostly based on the tells between the two.
Serra's been bugging me all game; sort of lurking in the background and asking questions/making observations that really won't help him fish out people's alignment, e.g.:
Spoiler: Serra's questions
In post 86, serrapaladin wrote:Wacky isn't necessarily bastard, I think - it's just swingy and PR heavy. If your role says VT, you're most likely a VT. I don't like Syryana's "treating this as mountainous". Care to elaborate, Syr?
PimHel and Syryana/Varsoon's back-and-forth about activity is odd. Doesn't really strike me as something either would want to waste time over on D2 of play.
There are some other things in serraISO that I want to go into but I need to catch up in other games first. So later on that.
Oversoul replaced into Untrod's slot, I believe. I had a scumread on that slot to start with thanks to UT, but it weakened after the replace in. My scumread on him solidified after that reads post. That thing
reeked
. First, after reading what all he said about me, I was legitimately surprised he voted me at the bottom. A simplified summary of what he said w.r.t. me: "I don't understand why you're treating this as mountainous, oh wait now I do, why are you voting Rufflig, I agree with you on Parama, why are you questioning serra since you prob don't know him, I like your points about Parama". Where's the scumread? He answers later (the next Day, actually) and his reasons for finding me scum essentially parrot Tierce or involve null things, e.g. taking jokes seriously. I've no idea where he gets the "weaken the townread on his (Oversoul's) slot".
Frankly the whole reads post is mostly busywork. He pretty blatantly ignores Parama (interesting, since he already knew Parama was the top wagon at that point, scumtell IMO), he asks a bunch of questions that were either answered later in thread or really don't help him ferret out alignment (just like serra) and the reads list at the end really has little to do with the garbled mess of PbPA he did.
I'd vote, but I can't. Pim blocked me last night. Kill serra or OS.
This is the quote I was referring to Syr.
Also, what was it that you wanted me to answer. I don't remember you asking me any questions
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:59 am
by Oversoul
How did I pretty blatantly ignore Parama when the first thing I did upon replacing in was try to trick him into thinking I had hammered him (albeit pretty slipshod way).
This is the quote I was referring to Syr.
Also, what was it that you wanted me to answer. I don't remember you asking me any questions
I don't remember asking you questions either. Where did I say I had a question for you?
Oversoul wrote:How did I pretty blatantly ignore Parama when the first thing I did upon replacing in was try to trick him into thinking I had hammered him (albeit pretty slipshod way).
Your reads list mostly ignored him; I didn't notice the "parama is null" bit at the end. You glanced at maybe two of his posts in your catchup. Your derphammer or fakehammer or whatever it was became irrelevant when I pointed out it was L-1 a couple posts later. The "pretty blatantly ignored" was an accidental misrep, but you had more than enough to decide whether he was town or scum at the time of your reads list and your PbPA didn't analyze his relevant posts in any way. That was the point I was making.
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:21 pm
by Tierce
Syryana: we're not lynching Oversoul Today.
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:34 pm
by Syryana
In post 769, Tierce wrote:Syryana: we're not lynching Oversoul Today.
Why not? And what about serra?
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:11 pm
by Tierce
I haven't gone through serra (or really anything else, I'm playing Alpha Omega at present) yet, but you just have to glance at Oversoul's posts Today to see why not.
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:41 pm
by Syryana
I glanced at his posts. I saw: he apparently doesn't understand what a mafia-ally is, he's never played xylbot before, two failed attempts to vote me, reasons to vote me that I'll deal with shortly, and treating Tierce with kid gloves.
I'll split this into chunks.
In post 759, Oversoul wrote:One is Syr lashing at BBmolla for saying if he and Parama were scumbuddies he would have hammered a long time ago and then once Param asked why Syr was voting Parama Syr replied because he was bussing his scumbuddy.
I believe the posts he is referring to here are #608 and #612. The first post called BBMolla's #599 bad. It doesn't take a genius to see the blatant WIFOM I'm referring to. In the second post, I am telling Parama I'm bussing him for towncred (should be fairly obvious it's a joke). How are the two related? How are they indicative of a scum mindset, particularly in light of Parama's flip?
In post 759, Oversoul wrote:One is Tierce pointing out that Syr just completely left out a point that he earlier accused Parama when Syr made his big post
Sheeping a Tierce point.
In post 759, Oversoul wrote:One is the fact that imo he was trying to either weaken the town read on my slot and Tierce's slot toward the tail of the day yesterday or get a better idea on what to do with Tierce and I
Town read on your slot? What town read on your slot? You replace Untrod, who was almost the lynch yesterday instead of Parama. The only reason you
didn't
get lynched was a combination of Parama being scummier and Tierce saving your ass through Untrod meta. Your argument that I was trying to weaken the townread on Tierce is bad for similar reasons.
In post 759, Oversoul wrote:Plus there is the added fact that I think Parama was most likely a counterwagon to scum which would mean Syr because Parama openly expressed that he did not like Syr and so it was very important that Parama died before Syr
Uh, what? If Parama was a counterwagon to scum, you are the scum. There was no wagon on me yesterday. Parama declared me conf-scum and voted me, but there was no wagon on me. Yet another point in your case evaporates.
So, from the above, the only part of his case that's remotely valid... comes from Tierce.
So I ask again, why is this guy not an option for lynches today?
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:48 pm
by Tierce
In post 772, Syryana wrote:I glanced at his posts. I saw: he apparently doesn't understand what a mafia-ally is, he's never played xylbot before, two failed attempts to vote me, reasons to vote me that I'll deal with shortly, and treating Tierce with kid gloves.