Mafiascum.net

nvm, just L-4.

6. Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)
7. Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
14. zMuffinMan



16. ProHawk - On the basis of his replies to Cabd, me. I might put him in the townbloc but I know he doesn't approve of them.
13. uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford) - this may surprise me more than it does N
19. 1baldeagle1
17. Lord Mhork
18. Zdenek
12. Harakiri (hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana) - this is a sort of probationary seat.
11. Banakai - of the one post wonders, Banakai's one post was by far the most town IMO.
8. Pyrotechnics (a hydra of Syryana and Tammy) - want think they are town, but they have been a source of fragmentation in a game where town needs to cooperate



3. Nero Cain
10. BBmolla
2. PeregrineV
4. Seanald
5. guille2015
20. DoctorPepper



1. VoidedMafia - waffling between top of this list and bottom of null list.
21. Klick
15. Hermy


The groups aren't really ordered. This is not seriatim.

In post 749, Voidedmafia wrote:

In post 742, Harakiri wrote:

In post 741, Nero Cain wrote:If you usually sheep Nacho, what do you do in a game without Nacho?

In those games I don't sheep Nacho D1.

This is just lolworthy. Nero, feel bad for yourself.

Well I don't. I've played one game with Hana (not counting the ongoing). I don't remember much of anything about that game except that Mara and I had a town read on Hana. (I'm also going to go read said game after this post.) Hana pretty much saying "well, I'm going to sheep" is just horrible on so many levels. Does she sheep others in a game without Nacho, what? Telling me that "I don't sheep Nacho" is just cheeky.

In post 752, Nero Cain wrote:Well I don't. I've played one game with Hana (not counting the ongoing). I don't remember much of anything about that game except that Mara and I had a town read on Hana. (I'm also going to go read said game after this post.) Hana pretty much saying "well, I'm going to sheep" is just horrible on so many levels. Does she sheep others in a game without Nacho, what? Telling me that "I don't sheep Nacho" is just cheeky.

If you had asked "Do you sheep D1, then?" or something to that effect, it would've been fine, but asking specifically about Nacho for games that he's not in is begging for a cheeky response, not to mention the question being ridiculous.

She knew damn well was I was getting at but yes I could have phrased that better.

She knew damn well was I was getting at but yes I could have phrased that better.

I can't find it but this "I'm going to blindly sheep Nacho" is just so grrrrrr!!! If we aren't lynching that can you guys atleast send me money so I can buy a nightkill?

Also the Hermy wagon seems kinda meh.

Lol this is easy mode.

Scum are Voided, morph, Harakiri, probably guille, and if there are any more, they're in people who haven't posted much.

About to go to school but reasons will follow this up.

In post 749, Voidedmafia wrote:So explain why it's not null.

And because I'm fairly sure Sakura will harp you on it, explain why it's not null for her specifically to do it (omg meta ewwwsuck it up.)

Umm, lets see, maybe because every single Sakura-town I have seen hasn't self-voted? But really, aside from that, its dumb, usually done as a joke, and is indicative of a loose cannon.

In post 745, zMuffinMan wrote:who do you actually think is scum, then?

Lost Butterfly. But that is more of a hunch than anything concrete. And Harakiri is more than likely scum.

In post 744, Hermy wrote:I'm getting a flashwagon for bad wording. Nice.

VOTE: Hermy

In post 748, Lord Mhork wrote:Uh... I guess I'm considering voting Hermy, though I don't really like how the wagon came out of nowhere >.<

More thoughts tomorrow after I sleep and whatnot.

are you actually even playing or are you just going to spout cliches all game?

In post 751, morph the cat wrote:this may surprise me more than it does N

it surprises me we're not higher. Quilford is town as fuck I'd sheep him

(I actually wouldn't because he's only made a few posts, but I know all his reads and they are good reads.)

In post 753, Voidedmafia wrote:

In post 752, Nero Cain wrote:Well I don't. I've played one game with Hana (not counting the ongoing). I don't remember much of anything about that game except that Mara and I had a town read on Hana. (I'm also going to go read said game after this post.) Hana pretty much saying "well, I'm going to sheep" is just horrible on so many levels. Does she sheep others in a game without Nacho, what? Telling me that "I don't sheep Nacho" is just cheeky.

If you had asked "Do you sheep D1, then?" or something to that effect, it would've been fine, but asking specifically about Nacho for games that he's not in is begging for a cheeky response, not to mention the question being ridiculous.

It was pretty obvious what Nero was asking, but I guess it probably wasn't really leading anywhere though.

Nero, if she'd answered your question properly, would that make any difference at all to your read?

hey since we've decided the lynch for today, should we sort out who's doing what tonight? We need to make sure we don't lose any more abilities like Accountant.

In post 694, Pyrotechnics wrote:Garuda - Did you guys ever answer what it was about Klick's one post that gave you both a scum read?

Posturing. (#757 adds to this too.)

In post 764, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:hey since we've decided the lynch for today, should we sort out who's doing what tonight? We need to make sure we don't lose any more abilities like Accountant.

Yeah, first step towards this is to figure out what abilities we want to put up and how many of them. It's gonna be hard picking out who is going to put down the money towards advertising given that so many people have posted little-to-nothing but maybe we can work something out? Heading to lunch now but I'll be around later to hammer this out with Nacho.

In post 751, morph the cat wrote:11. Banakai - of the one post wonders, Banakai's one post was by far the most town IMO.

Explain please.

In post 767, Garuda wrote:

In post 751, morph the cat wrote:11. Banakai - of the one post wonders, Banakai's one post was by far the most town IMO.

Explain please.

In post 676, Banakai wrote:I'm catching up guys I'll probbably be done reading up to current times

in an hour

by tommorow

by christmas

by day 2

It struck both of us as town. Not apologetic. Not blaming. Not posturing. Slight air of motivation-based confidence. It was enough to move him out of the null pile.

Erm, I thought you guys were basing it off of his #519? Your #530 seemed to suggest as much anyway.

In post 758, ProHawk wrote:Umm, lets see, maybe because every single Sakura-town I have seen hasn't self-voted? But really, aside from that, its dumb, usually done as a joke, and is indicative of a loose cannon.

So, I was content to just ignore this game til day two, but ProHawk, you do know who the other head is here, right? You've played enough games with me that to even bring this self-vote thing up as a case is actually complete fucking bullshit.

[[Lurking Intensifies]]

In post 769, Garuda wrote:Erm, I thought you guys were basing it off of his #519? Your #530 seemed to suggest as much anyway.

That post was pretty good too!

It's not a lot to go on, but to us, it's decidedly not null content. Do you disagree?

I feel like we should have a stronger read on Nero, but there's a same-old same-old feel to what he's posted so far.

In post 771, morph the cat wrote:That post was pretty good too!

It's not a lot to go on, but to us, it's decidedly not null content. Do you disagree?

I feel like we should have a stronger read on Nero, but there's a same-old same-old feel to what he's posted so far.

Yeah, that's why I asked. I don't really see anything in Banakai's posts and it really doesn't take much in the way of effort / competency to be like "hey dudes, I'm reading and will post later" as scum. (And by your criteria, I think Seanald is way better in the "not giving a shit" townvibes front.)

I feel the same way about Nero w.r.t. feeling like I should be getting a stronger read there but he looks pretty solid to me so far.

morph wrote:16. ProHawk - On the basis of his replies to Cabd, me.

is this referring to 542? because iirc you didn't like all his earlier responses to you.

morph wrote:Scum
1. VoidedMafia - waffling between top of this list and bottom of null list.
21. Klick
15. Hermy

are you going to vote one of these players?

garuda wrote:Posturing.

459? how? the second line of 459 was kind of meh but i don't know what you mean by posturing here.

In post 680, Hermy wrote:It's late and I'm way too tired to post truly useful stuff. But if anybody wants my opinions on anything then I'll be happy to give them.

For now, a tentative VOTE: voidedmafia
For reasons that have pretty much been listed. I've seen his gameplay and ISO and voided is marginally scummier than Harakiri. Though at this point both of them could possibly be scum. Though if it has to be one, I'm thinking voided.

Very eager to get me out of the way now that I'm actually a wagon worth considering? I'd be lying if I didn't say that I agree with the wishy-washy calls.

And since you are a new face, I expect you to lay out why you think I'm scum--or rather, lay out what points you think are against me.

In post 686, Hermy wrote:Er... I'd prefer reasons now instead of later...

Same to you.

In post 687, Pyrotechnics wrote:. And really the only person that actually seemed interested in some protown coordination that night was Empire and to a lesser extent Voided.

I don't see how you got "VM was trying to some extent coordinate with the town" from why I advertised EV. I could see where you could get "VM tried to help town", but not coordinate.

In post 688, guille2015 wrote:Ok, I'm going to go read some of this game (Skim really), so, I don't want to read everything. So, can somebody point out the highlights. That will probably speed up my skimming.

What did you advertise and/or bid on/buy, if anything?

What reads can you give within 48 hours?

Of the current wagons (me, hara-kiri, and the upcoming Hermy wagon as of this quote), which would you rather see be ahead by the deadline or be hammered?

In post 705, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:I'm going to resist the urge to call you Hermy's buddy and ask you how those posts could possibly be town?

He's just mad that his VM mislynch is falling through.

Fair question, though.

In post 715, Lost Butterfly wrote:I wouldn't characterise voided as a strong player tammy, he was pretty easy to mislynch in black flag because he has the kind of wall of text style that I'm pretty sure no one reads.

Wait, I thought I got mislynched for more than that? I could've sworn I was wagoned on for, like, believing that Sixty was town when everyone else thought they were scum or something.

(not apologizing for the walls; it's what I have to do to play catch-up most of the time <_<.)

In post 722, ProHawk wrote:Not from my experience.

So explain why it's not null.

And because I'm fairly sure Sakura will harp you on it, explain why it's not null for her specifically to do it (omg meta ewwwsuck it up.)

In post 742, Harakiri wrote:

In post 741, Nero Cain wrote:If you usually sheep Nacho, what do you do in a game without Nacho?

In those games I don't sheep Nacho D1.

This is just lolworthy. Nero, feel bad for yourself.

In post 757, Klick wrote:Scum are Voided, morph, Harakiri, probably guille, and if there are any more, they're in people who haven't posted much.

So are you admitting you haven't really put much thought into this?

In post 758, ProHawk wrote:But really, aside from that, its dumb, usually done as a joke, and is indicative of a loose cannon.

A self-vote may be a joke, and usually is dumb, but by itself does not make someone a loose cannon unless it's proven by meta.

In post 764, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:hey since we've decided the lynch for today, should we sort out who's doing what tonight? We need to make sure we don't lose any more abilities like Accountant.

Who would be your suggestions for getting what abilities, and who advertises, then?

In post 766, Garuda wrote:Yeah, first step towards this is to figure out what abilities we want to put up and how many of them. It's gonna be hard picking out who is going to put down the money towards advertising given that so many people have posted little-to-nothing but maybe we can work something out? Heading to lunch now but I'll be around later to hammer this out with Nacho.

I'm willing to.

I can agree with Morph's 768 re; Banakai . A real read will be dependent on what he says come tomorrow, but he's null-town in my eyes for now.

P-EDIT: I guess that's true, Garuda, but with Banakai there's more of a sense of willingness to help with his catchup than there is with Seanald.