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In post 31, SXTLHGaiden wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29901
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=32107
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30676

I think this is it. I'll let you know if I find any more.

I like this. She asked what games they wanted, and she provided.

In post 728, SXTLHGaiden wrote:Ok, i am caught up, but i should probably re-read the last 15 pages (i won't say i skimmed posts but yeah...).

@Kaze: Merry christmas. New just completed scum game. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=34556

She also continues providing.

And that's pretty much all she has.

In post 419, Kagami wrote:I'm consulting on top of my normal job this month, so work on that is on hold until further notice. I'm only really using my database to quickly find games of players who don't have wikis.

I like kaze in this game so far, though I admit to not having read the 17 pages especially thoroughly. It looks like almost entirely like fluff. The case on remembrance slot feels like it might be legit.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rem-slot

kaze, can you summarize case on ufo for me?

I kind of don't like this. She says she hasn't read thouroghly, but still feels the case is legit.

She then keeps going on about the trust tell.

Words against Jaqen.

In post 572, Kagami wrote:I really hate that scummy nom.

My incomplete assessment of the gamestate is that there are only a few lines of argument that make sense:

Mac on kagami: not enough content, can't deny that
Jaqen on morph: cadb slip
lush on bubba: Various minor tells, listed in 463
morph on Pie: Srs biz early posting nonsense
kise on rem: kise-tsukasa interaction

Of all these, my favorite by far is kise's point, which is both original and accurate. Now, whether or not it's indicative of rem's alignment is a different matter.

Rem is either legit invoking a trust tell (and yes, this is a trust tell), or she's using a false tell to push her towniness.

Hard to say which, but it makes kise very much town to me. Kise's response to my little flip-flop on rem is very nice, imo, making him a fairly strong townread to me.

still pushing trust tell.

In post 580, Kagami wrote: Cadb says that town doesn't read the mod-post, but scum do. Then says to the group of people, many who seemed to have missed the IC announcement, "but you all missed it, shame on you." This doesn't make sense from town-frame, because if everyone there is town, then this is perfectly consistent with the first statement. He expresses surprise, though,

suggesting that he's observed that scum also have failed to read the mod-post.

Expresses concern that Morph could be scum, but also say that they could be town.

And then this.

In post 586, Kagami wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Morph

It seems to me that they're trying to fit in.

In post 38, Kazekirimaru wrote:

In post 31, SXTLHGaiden wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29901
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=32107
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30676

I think this is it. I'll let you know if I find any more.

It is. I actually already meta'd you. I just wanted to see if you'd purposely leave any out. Thanks! ;D

Town as hell.

In post 108, Kazekirimaru wrote:

In post 100, pieguyn wrote:where's bork
is that you bork
get in here and duel me

There's stuff going on. You should talk about it.

>Past 7 votes is just small talk. and then saying this.

#250 is a nice post, get them back on track.

Commence thorough questioning of me - pretty town, just for the thoroughness.

Continues questioning others.

#519 is a good long post.

Just now noticing Jiffy is stealing arguments from him Nevertheless seems town, and I think Jiffy is town.

#552's opening comment is good (Asking if me and pie could be scumbros)

The ending calling Lush noise doesn't make sense though.

#655 is also a good post. I was going to ask what they thought of people after reading some of it, but they answered it in the end of the post.

I seem to have missed #741 and I apologize, I hope I answer your questions in this. Er it was posted just now nvm. Anyway Some of it's fluffy, the rest is pretty good.

Not here.

Everything up to ISO #7 is nothing.

In post 150, pieguyn wrote:Cabd what were you trying to accomplish with the metadive on UFO

Interesting question...

#365 is a good post! good questioning going on.

In post 366, pieguyn wrote: townblock: me, Kaze, Lush Life, bubbajack, Jaqen, Tsukasa

I would have liked reasons to this.

In post 366, pieguyn wrote:

@Cabd:

are you all sure of Gaiden town? I wanna be sure he can't fake that opening as scum > <
why is Kaze town?
what's your thoughts on Kise?

@borkjiffymollie:

are you still having reservations about Kaze town?
what's your opinion on Kise?
why the vote on morph?

@Kaze:

same question about Gaiden. also, why is zmuffin town?

I like when people question.

#613 the amount of times the word explain is used is glorious.

#624 more questions.
Overall I like the questions. Once she got past early-game it turned nice

Nothing to note

In post 205, Tsukasa wrote:Damn you guys move fast

VOTE: UFO

For being second hardest

Next to SA

Why wouldn't you vote the hardest? Hardest what?

In post 207, Tsukasa wrote:

In post 137, Remembrance wrote:Today has been a bad day, even my town role pm didn't cheer me up that much. I hope I'll feel better in the morning.

I don't feel so great with your PM claim.

IIRC you've done this quite a number of times. And almost certain you've always lied with this.

Links?

In post 282, Tsukasa wrote:

dram

and rem are both leaning scum

why?

In post 703, Tsukasa wrote: One thing I hate are trust tells.
It kinda affects gameplay

or something.

And if the person is aware that he's using a trust tell, doesn't that mean that it can easily be faked?

I don't like this at all.

Near the end of the post it gets better.

In post 462, Mac wrote:yeah I'm reading as a go and making a mental note of reads, but that made me spit water out almost. Why would you consider that a townslip when it looks fake as fuck? And by fake as fuck, I mean it reads to me like a joke.

I can't believe I missed this.

In post 464, Mac wrote:pie's reads in #366 are meh but the lushlife one is especially shit about the townslip about IC (ill be fucked if i can remember their name) - kaze in his

TOWN BLOC

because he can't read him? hahahahaha

I can't read muffin usually so he's town!

Are you criticizing him for having Kaze in his town slot? Because if so. Wow the hypocrisy.

In post 475, Mac wrote:

Vote: Kagami

Why?

In post 530, Mac wrote:

kaze wrote:What's up?

The severe lack of nothing in Kagami's ISO is alarming. I think the vote on Remembrance is bullshit given Rem can't defend himself. And poor, considering it doesn't really make sense.

There's my answer.

In post 707, Mac wrote:

Vote: pieguy

Firstly, his town bloc was terrible.

for now, I'll townread Tsukasa. he's being proactive early and there's also a ton of defiance in his posts that I tend to attribute more to a town mindset. I especially noticed it here

I'll also townread Lush Life for being obvtown and legitimately townslipping re: Jaqen. also bubbajack for being proactive early. I'll also townread Kaze bc I can't read him for shit and I tend to pick up on a lot of shit from him and I get the feeling if he was scum he'd be more careful and I'd pick up less
morph's frustration re: mollie feels town but idk if they'd get frustrated as scum plus I'm paranoid as fuck about them for practically no reason =.=

townblock: me, Kaze, Lush Life, bubbajack, Jaqen, Tsukasa

I don't like the "for now" in the first post, because it looks to me like he's shaping up change his mind later on in the game, OR doesn't have confidence in his read. If it's the former, he's probably scum and if it's the latter, why the fuck is Tsu in his townbloc? Lush Life I wouldn't mind being in the townbloc - but he quotes the "townslip" which is totally bullshit because the townslip was

based on Cabd's perception of a slip

- not his own. Personally, I wouldn't consider it a slip in any game, but that's my view. pieguy doesn't express belief this is the case, he just goes with it.

Let's not get started on townreading Kaze because pie is... unable to form a read on him?

Second point is this

In post 617, pieguyn wrote:

vote: morph

still not sure about the "slip" but oh well I'll bite for now

I mean I'm pretty sure pie is pretty fucking logical in games, yet this is what he comes up with? Not pushing his own reads, and pushing morph based on a slip he's not even sure about?

Yeah, right.

See bolded.

His first reason is terrible, (except the for now comment) the rest is ok.

The fact that Mac's committed some of this is concerning.

In post 61, Remembrance wrote:Mass experiment, please do:

@are you scum?
@ are you sure you're not scum?
@Are you town?
@ Are you sure you're not town?

Varsoon exempted, I don't want him to get banned again~

This was dumb yet clever.

In post 137, Remembrance wrote:Today has been a bad day,

even my town role pm

DIDNT

cheer me up that much. I hope I'll feel better in the morning.

No like.

Not much there though. The replace out and story involves they really were having a bad day.

In post 424, Varsoon wrote:

In post 26, Remembrance wrote:Time travel, it is the year 2014.

@Lushlife what is it like?

VOTE: Varsoon

Ctrl+F: Varsoon
2 results: A vote on me and a joke about what I'm about to do
I'm town, confirming that now.
Also, OMGUS, BITCHES
VOTE: Remembrance-slot

Curious as to why you searched yourself...

In post 694, Varsoon wrote:Kaze, I feel like you're the only dude who knows I'm here so I'm gonna just chat with you and stuff.

I don't have any good reads. I haven't been giving this game much attention.

If I rolled scum, this wouldn't be a problem, since, y'know, this game can ramble on without me.

Pieguyn is not on the usual town ball. That's important to notice.
Then again, neither am I.

One of Lush Life, GCBC(previously morph), Kise, Pie, and zMuffin is scum, if not more. Just lynch that list and we'll be gold.

Easy fuckin' peasy.
VOTE: GoodCopBadCop

Why didn't you follow that order yourself.

Bolded and the I'm confirmed town

Nothing else

Before I get in to this one, I thought this was a player who hadn't posted the fact they have scares me.

And there's nothing of value.

There's nothing of value.

In post 397, UFO wrote: I think Kaze is kinda townish due to early towny plays. Remembrance is null cuz not doing anything proving either way.

The only good post. The rest are just fluff and procrastination.

In post 169, zMuffinMan wrote:pieguy scum, lush life town, gaiden town

For comparison.

In post 257, zMuffinMan wrote:

kaze wrote:Town = Gaiden, Lush hydra, maybe muffin too

Not Town = pie, Rem, maybe dram

take morph out of town reads, tsukasa out of not town reads and swap your name for mine, and this is basically where i'm at atm

Town = Gaiden, Lush hydra, maybe kaze too

Not Town = pie, Rem, maybe dram

Fluid. Still no reasons. would like to know what you think about the additions.

In post 287, zMuffinMan wrote:i know roughly where your reads stand. i don't know how you got those reads

Yeah muffinman, really.

ISO 25, and 26 actually give us something.

nothing else though

In post 187, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:Hah.

VOTE: Kise

Why?

Nothing really else except 689, and her comment with ad hom when she used ad-hom on me.

Not sure what I'm suppose to talk about...

He makes some nice points. I just wish he'd be here more.

186. I like.

I like clarifications.

In post 406, Kise wrote:

In post 365, pieguyn wrote:why are you sheeping someone who hasn't explained their vote? also, why am I scum?

[/quote][/quote]
You prefaced your laziness earlier. I intended to pressure you anyway. Wagons are fun and produce talk - well not really, not here. Looks like the fire was finally lit up under you but eh you're just asking questions. I like when people stand out.

So you tell them your plan to pressure them, say they are not a scum read, and leave your vote?

480 and 481's softs

The rest is nothing.

186. I like.

I like clarifications.

In post 406, Kise wrote:

In post 365, pieguyn wrote:why are you sheeping someone who hasn't explained their vote? also, why am I scum?

[/quote][/quote]
You prefaced your laziness earlier. I intended to pressure you anyway. Wagons are fun and produce talk - well not really, not here. Looks like the fire was finally lit up under you but eh you're just asking questions. I like when people stand out. [/quote]

So you tell them your plan to pressure them, say they are not a scum read, and leave your vote?

480 and 481's softs

The rest is nothing.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote:I got your point. I was saying I STILL don't agree with meta (Which is one of the things I discredited)

That's great and still completely irrelevant.
And my points still stand.

So... *thumbs up*

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote: Because You're saying I'm lying. How do you know I'm lying. It's baseless, and bullshit. You are ASSUMING I'm lying to paint me as scummy. Happy?

I'm not assuming shit. I've already proven that you lied, right there in that string of quotes.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote: It's going to be a while, trust me I'll get it in.

Yeah, procrastinate away any little promise of content.

I'll be here with a handful of rope for your neck.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote: No. What's true is the alignment neutral aspect, and that I'm not the only one posting nothing. Where the hell you got I'm self concious about my alignment I don't even know.

Your continued reference of the alignment-neutral aspect, and being the person bringing it up with no relevant point attached to it except to say that it's alignment-neutral.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote: And you're sitting on a bad lead. I told you'd I was ISOing everyone. Jeez.

Right. Looks like a good lead to me. Going to sit on it as hard as I can.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote: "This is a meta heavy playerlist don't discredit it"
"I don't meta"

Are you kidding? Anyway the point was, this is how I play as town, if you want to see how I play as scum be my guest.

I am not the entire playerlist.
I can acknowledge the strengths of many of the players in said playerlist without counting myself as one of them.

Also I note that you *CONTINUE* to deflect instead of address.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote:How am I appealing to fear?

"Majiffy lynched me as town! He can't be trusted! Obviously he's going to lynch me as town again! I'm going to flip town!" = An appeal to fear.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote: You discredit your ability to scumhunt on your own.

"NO U! HEHEHE I SO WITTY"

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote:And you're not trying to find out anyone else's alignment right now, why is that?

I've posted reads on close to half the playerlist by now.

So... Another lie by the bubbanator!

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote:there's something called being nice and not chucking insults at every player, you should try it.

Why?

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote:What I can't take is someone would want to push someone to kill themselves. I didn't even think this comment was directed to me. What I can't take is someone would would even tell someone to put a gun to their skull. You know how fucked up that is. I've had friends commit suicide due to online bullying, and I'm not going to let you tell ANYONE that. Or let ANYONE tell someone that. I take it seriously. Now then. If you would still like to make comments like these, please leave.

I bet you think that everyone who listens to Eminem beats their girlfriends, starts packing heat and doing excessive drugs, too.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote:And then looking like a d-bag.

At least I don't look like an imbecile who can't grasp the basic tenets of this game and how it's played.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote: Make a good argument then. You're arguments are riddled with jumping to conclusions and assuming shit. That's what makes them bad.

...
I'm not sure you understand how this works.

I present an argument
You refute said argument OR You cannot refute said argument

Saying "Make a good argument, what a bad argument, blah blah blah" and not refuting it falls under the second option.

Where are my jumped-to conclusions? Where are my assumptions? Why do you find them unfounded?
You've not answered any of this.

Probably because my arguments are quite good.

In post 746, bubbajack8 wrote:It is. Consistently bad. And taking way too much of your effort.

Did your mother help you out with that comeback?

Sorry if I leave any out.

Vote Rem in 224 for "reasons already stated"

Morph vote in 307. Not sure who.

421 commence attack on bubba

Reads: Town
{morph, Kaze, Muffin, Jaqen thing}

Scum
{Remembrance, bubbajack, Kise, Kagami}

8/21 =/= half.

Continue vote bubba streak.

More Bubba

Me all the way to #485

Shoot yourself in the head comment, annnd back to bubba.

Bubba to #521

#732 back to bubba.

Bubba to #735

Great reads bro. Well done. Fuck off before I start to think you're scum. Because I don't and you're changing my opinion. And I don't like that.