Mini #534 - Vegetable Mafia (Game Over!)
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But pretty hard to disprove.Crub wrote:Why would scum make up a PR like that it would be insane
No, it wasn't. It was putting one of my top suspects at -1. Sorry I wasn't explicit, but I assumed people were following along.Crub wrote:You do realise that's a hammer right?
@soup and Crub: I think it unlikely that two scum would burn their claims the way tdp and Phate would have had to for tdp to be reeling in Phate. Too much risk if they were wrong about it.
Ignoring the Appeal to Emotion, I was considering the total of what you'd contributed today- very little.tdp wrote:if you dont want to give people at least a day to respond, then you might as well lynch me now because I'm tired of stressing out over trying to find the time to post in between working 8 hour days and taking 5 classes in college
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Final Votecount
thedragonsprincess (4) -- Crub, soupfly, gorckat, thedragonsprincess
gorckat (1) -- destructor
Phate (1) -- Bookitty
Not voting: Phate
7 alive, 4 to lynch.
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Four of you, with help from thedragonsprincess herself, decide that thedragonsprincess simply has to go. With any luck, she's one of those cowardly non green conspirators. You all put her through a shredder or whatever is being used for the lynches round here, but when the lynch is complete, you can all see plainly that she was what she claimed to be -- a green, if rather suicidal, cucumber.
Night 3 is here, with awesome 72 hour deadline.
thedragonsprincess (4) -- Crub, soupfly, gorckat, thedragonsprincess
gorckat (1) -- destructor
Phate (1) -- Bookitty
Not voting: Phate
7 alive, 4 to lynch.
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Four of you, with help from thedragonsprincess herself, decide that thedragonsprincess simply has to go. With any luck, she's one of those cowardly non green conspirators. You all put her through a shredder or whatever is being used for the lynches round here, but when the lynch is complete, you can all see plainly that she was what she claimed to be -- a green, if rather suicidal, cucumber.
thedragonsprincess - Cucumber, Vanilla Townie - lynched day 3
Night 3 is here, with awesome 72 hour deadline.
Primpod 11:13 pm
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face
You all wake up from your uneasy sleep to find that one of your friends has been killed. Destructor was the latest victim. His vegetable was a Brussels Sprout, but he's been shredded pretty thoroughly, and certainly won't be voting or talking anymore. Sad to relate, your crusade against the non green mafia is now short of a vigilante...
And it's day 4. With just 5 alive, 3 votes is enough to shred. Take care.
destructor - Brussels Sprout, Vigilante - killed night 3
And it's day 4. With just 5 alive, 3 votes is enough to shred. Take care.
Primpod 11:13 pm
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face
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What is it with townies self-hammering this game? If you're gonna go down, let scum do it so they can be found, dammit!
FoS: Bookitty
, whom I should of stuck with based on the crazy PR. I also don't buy the night-action proof claim. That combination sounds a lot like an SK, which doesn't fit here (unless there have been a ridiculous amount of duplicate kills).- destructor
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@Crub: I think Gorckat is saying he doesn't believe my post restriction, because he thinks it only fits an SK. I think it's pretty clear there's not an SK in this game. That said, I'd like Gorckat to explain how it's helpful for scum to fake such a post restriction.
Soupfly is confirmed town. So I wondered why Destructor was the nightkill, rather than Soupfly, probably the optimal kill for scum. I think the answer is here.
I think Gorckat and Crub are likely the final two scum. I'd vote for either today.
Soupfly is confirmed town. So I wondered why Destructor was the nightkill, rather than Soupfly, probably the optimal kill for scum. I think the answer is here.
I think Gorckat and Crub are likely the final two scum. I'd vote for either today.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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Oh btw gorckat and Phate are pretty much confirmed to be the remaining scum for me, unless Kitty is making up her PR.
Soup can you please weigh in with your thoughts of everyone?
@kitty: Firstly analysing the reason for the NK is often filled with WIFOM. I do think destructor's suspicion of gorckat probably did provide some incentive for him to be killed. Are you still considering Phate as possible scum at this point? If not I'd like to know why not.
Soup can you please weigh in with your thoughts of everyone?
@kitty: Firstly analysing the reason for the NK is often filled with WIFOM. I do think destructor's suspicion of gorckat probably did provide some incentive for him to be killed. Are you still considering Phate as possible scum at this point? If not I'd like to know why not.
Moo?
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@Gorckat: I certainly have not been allowed to slide on it, since it's the primary and apparently only reason that you've attacked me. Do you think a PR is inherently scummy?
@Crub: I am most certain about Gorckat. The post I linked to in 759 and your defense of me makes me nervous about you. The fact you're active makes me less so.
I'd like more input from Phate; I didn't like his interactions with ryan as previously stated. In LYLO he's posting less than I am with NO post restriction, but Gorckat is strangely silent on that matter. That's suspicious. Because of his silence he's moved up to second, but it's pretty much tied at this point. Need more information.
Would like some thoughts from Soupfly and Phate. Ready to explain or answer any questions as soon as I can. Last post for this page, unfortunately.
@Crub: I am most certain about Gorckat. The post I linked to in 759 and your defense of me makes me nervous about you. The fact you're active makes me less so.
I'd like more input from Phate; I didn't like his interactions with ryan as previously stated. In LYLO he's posting less than I am with NO post restriction, but Gorckat is strangely silent on that matter. That's suspicious. Because of his silence he's moved up to second, but it's pretty much tied at this point. Need more information.
Would like some thoughts from Soupfly and Phate. Ready to explain or answer any questions as soon as I can. Last post for this page, unfortunately.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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If its the primary, then its not the only, is it?Kitty wrote:@Gorckat: I certainly have not been allowed to slide on it, since it's the primary and apparently only reason that you've attacked me. Do you think a PR is inherently scummy?
As I said in 756, I don't buy the restriction
combined
with the night-proof claim. That sounds a lot, to me, like an SK. Why
do you have that post restriction?Yes- I'm role-fishing.
Looking back at the kills:
Y was very pro-town, so it makes sense an SK and scum might both want to off him.
think could have been killed by the vig, or crossed with vig and scum or SK.
Oman, as I pointed out, was breadcrumbing power, but was also suspecious to some, so could have been a triple kill.
Destructor was also very pro-town, and may have breadcrumbed vig (I haven't looked, yet).
Destructor could have tried to off Kitty last night, or held back.
If there were only two scum, an SK is plausible. Mini 433 was like that- 2 scum, SK and several pro-town roles (1-shot vig, doc, gunsmith and tracker). With a full-blown cop and vig, I think it'd be balanced.
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Are you seriously advocating an SK and Vig? Town could possibly win night 1 and the mafia could win day 2 in the scenario you are proposing. I think it is HIGHLY unlikely. I think that des was probably one-shot, and he used up his shot night 1, from the way he speculated about night actions, and from the fact that we've only had one kill nights 2 and 3. While I do find the "immune to investigations" thing with kitty to be off, again I just can't see scum with that PR.
I also still want to hear from Soup and Phate. Please weigh in with your thoughts on everyone.
I also still want to hear from Soup and Phate. Please weigh in with your thoughts on everyone.
Moo?
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If des was a one-shot, then the setup isCrub wrote:Are you seriously advocating an SK and Vig?
very
similar to Mini 433.Mafia, no, but an investigate immune (comes up innocent?), NK immune SK...perhaps.Crub wrote:While I do find the "immune to investigations" thing with kitty to be off, again I just can't see scum with that PR.
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Ah- I see what you're saying. I read this part wrong.Crub wrote:Are you seriously advocating an SK and Vig? Town could possibly win night 1 and the mafia could win day 2 in the scenario you are proposing.
While true the scum could be taken out Night One, that option existed in Mini 433, as well, plus Kitty has claimed NK immune, iirc, which makes the one-kill nights plausible in other ways.