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This role very strongly suggests acryon is town :/

Sorry all for the delay. Having a parent pass away, having said parent not be married and being an only child really sucks.

I was going to do a full read of this, but after seeing the gladiator claim and hating D1s to begin with, I'm going to focus down on the 2 lychables for today (assuming it's a real role/action).
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In post 713, Iconeum wrote:Though this is an easy choice to lynch MD over me. There's a divided playerlist over his slot, while I'm still overall townread. Lynching MD gives a much better start of D2 in any case.

I don't see how it's the easy choice to lynch MD over you. A quick ISO has me reading him town and you scummy.

Town or Scum, I can take guesses as to why you are procrastinating on claiming, but I want to hear the reason from your mouth.
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MD: Can I get an updated and condensed list of your town/scum reads please? Would you lynch you over Icon?

Ah, I see I missed the confirmation of the role and action.

@MOD: If we choose to NL, will the claimed 1-shot be spent or will he be able to gladiate tomorrow (should he live through the night)? I can guess, but just to confirm and be clear.

For now though:

VOTE: NO LYNCH

@kthx

In post 751, Kthxbye wrote:MD: Can I get an updated and condensed list of your town/scum reads please? Would you lynch you over Icon?

Absolutely not. I'm trying to die at night. Discussing my reads explicitly is exactly how not to do that.

I'm willing to say that A50 should be seriously considered for a lynch tomorrow IF I END UP DYING, and mastina, Not_Mafia, Paradox, and IB can all get policy lynched whenever you like.

I would never lynch me over Icon, no. I have a high enough opinion of myself as a player that I would prefer to never ever get mislynched, and my personal wincon is to basically stay alive long enough to draw the NK in some way.

In post 754, TheGoldenParadox wrote:VOTE: Icon

I haven't seen you even reference Icon this game so why would you vote him without explanation over a NL

Fair enough dino

In post 752, Kthxbye wrote:Ah, I see I missed the confirmation of the role and action.

@MOD: If we choose to NL, will the claimed 1-shot be spent or will he be able to gladiate tomorrow (should he live through the night)? I can guess, but just to confirm and be clear.

For now though:

VOTE: NO LYNCH

A NL is mathematically wrong especially given that Icon isn't literally conftown, tbh. Like if it's me or no lynch, I NL, obviously, but it just feels icky I guess.

A flip on someone would be really good for VCA tbh. No Lynching is either very good or very bad for town in my experience.

I'll get back to you on 759 later

What an interesting turn of events. I had scumreads on both of you...

Beefy which way are you thinking of voting?

Okay... So apparently, I'm very prone to confirmation bias because I just looked over Mathdino as if he was town and he looks town- and mastina's case is actually a bit of a stretch (and is littered with nitpicking). I changed my mind again. Get over it.

Iconeum's play is questionable for sure, but I don't think it's super scummy.

VOTE: Iconeum

I'd rather keep Mathdino alive at this point. I think both the gladiate targets have a decent chance of being town and I'm not letting a coin flip choose who dies.

acryon's desire for self preservation makes me think he's scum.

Also note that acryon's gladiate use gives us very little information on him. It could very well be a scum role in a game like this and how MD and Icon flip gives no indication of acryon's alignment due to WIFOM.

In post 763, Beefster wrote:Okay... So apparently, I'm very prone to confirmation bias because I just looked over Mathdino as if he was town and he looks town- and mastina's case is actually a bit of a stretch (and is littered with nitpicking). I changed my mind again. Get over it.

if town thinks this ridiculous play is actually imminently lynchable then town deserves to lose this game

to be clear i don't respect this because it's defending me

in fact i don't respect the flip flopping at all

but it's not scum flip flopping

If my meta read holds any weight I'd be way more worried about Beef if he wasn't flip flopping d1

Forum mafia is hard.

In post 766, the worst wrote:If my meta read holds any weight I'd be way more worried about Beef if he wasn't flip flopping d1

in fairness, i've seen him flip flop wildly as scum

it just has to benefit scum-him

he doesn't seem to do it just for the sake of it

I don't think I would mind a mislynch.

I don't understand worsts? Notion that both slots were largely town read. Sure both slots were unlikely to get lynched today but both slots were far from being largely townread

Mislynch should be Nolynch

Mom could you quote my post which confused you? I might have derped on terminology maybe but I think we're on a different page

@Dino:

Have you missed the spoiler in 741 or are ignoring me?

Forgot about it, I'm bad at catching up lol.

In post 741, Almost50 wrote:So, you intended to protect Icon, and if you flipped the town should consider lynching me??
Also, if you flipped that should prove acronym is town??
I mean, a shot on ICON proves HE is town. What does that have to do with acronym? And why would you expect scum!me to be shooting Icon in particular?

1. I'm scumreading you but I didn't want to push you D1 because I wanted to give you time just in case my read was dead wrong. Plus, decent shot at being shot tonight anyway. Since I was widely scumread, unless I managed to guard the NK, prior to the gladiate I wasn't gonna die at night and could just push you tomorrow anyway.
I intended to protect Icon before I was revealed. Icon potentially getting shot has nothing to do with my scumread on you.

2. My flip doesn't say anything about acryon? acryon is more than likely town because scum gladiator essentially functions as a 1-shot governor, which is ridiculous by design standards.

3. I think you're conflating a bunch of things. I would expect scum!anyone to shoot Icon just because of the wide townread.

In post 773, Mathdino wrote:2. My flip doesn't say anything about acryon? acryon is more than likely town because scum gladiator essentially functions as a 1-shot governor, which is ridiculous by design standards.

My bad. I should've quoted everything rather than just that last one.

My question about the relation between acryon's alignment and yours refers to:

In post 638, Mathdino wrote:And obviously if flip, acryon's town, and mastina utterly fails to catch scum in every way, probably scum there too.

But I think I got the answer already. You were saying that if you flip we would see you're town, and thus can't be scum with acryon. Am I getting this right? Of so, then it still doesn't prove his alignment. That was BEFORE either of you were outed btw, so at that point he had not yet used his gladiator shot and yoy had not yet claimed BG, which is what made me wonder.