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precisely

holy fuck. this game.

god bless xyzzy for modding this. my god.

uh so what. should i shoot srceen? i actually don't really know whats optimal right now tbh.

is it like a mom v srceen thing?

Screen. Give us soem reads

In post 738, Vaxkiller wrote:I didn't like your (davsto) banter with random midget, and it looked like you were setting up shooting mom. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Okay I really don't get what you're saying here. The bit you're talking about is where I said "I wanna shoot Mom but because she's BP I want someone else to agree to do it after me to avoid me wasting a shot so hey anyone else", randomidget said "yes please me I'll do it" and then I made a pun and shot Mom.

I'm really confused by what you're saying because, well, it was "setting up" shooting Mom because I scumread her. But it wasn't like I was being covert or shady as your wording seems to be implying, I was literally getting someone else to agree to shoot too and under the circumstances (her being x-shot BP) it makes a lot of sense. I am confused by your issue with it and the way your post describing it is worded.

(On a side note, what scummy to me is that right now random is not following through despite having posted onsite since my shot on Mom went through. I won't hound it much until he posts in game without shooting, though. That would be worse.)

*yawn*

I hear scum whining about me not relenting my read because of some self meta defense, something about IIOA being invalid because everyone has to scum hunt (like this is my first multiball ever) and claiming I'm scum for "randomly shooting " someone who could be solid town because I was pinged by his posts even though SO FAR everyone who was gun happy flipped town.

Meanwhile he completely ignores how I am handling bp and how flipped scum handled his.

BTW I have more than one shot which is why I said I still needed to be strong armed

Also, sorry Taly this game is to big I'll probably try tomorrow when there's more presented info

In post 753, Davsto wrote:

In post 738, Vaxkiller wrote:I didn't like your (davsto) banter with random midget, and it looked like you were setting up shooting mom. It rubbed me the wrong way.

Okay I really don't get what you're saying here. The bit you're talking about is where I said "I wanna shoot Mom but because she's BP I want someone else to agree to do it after me to avoid me wasting a shot so hey anyone else", randomidget said "yes please me I'll do it" and then I made a pun and shot Mom.

I'm really confused by what you're saying because, well, it was "setting up" shooting Mom because I scumread her. But it wasn't like I was being covert or shady as your wording seems to be implying, I was literally getting someone else to agree to shoot too and under the circumstances (her being x-shot BP) it makes a lot of sense. I am confused by your issue with it and the way your post describing it is worded.

(On a side note, what

is

scummy to me is that right now random is not following through despite having posted onsite since my shot on Mom went through. I won't hound it much until he posts in game without shooting, though. That would be worse.)

Maybe im not explaining this correctly. It sounded rehearsed. RM has 3 posts, and he comes in and says "let me do it".

Altho, one flaw I can now see is that we don't know if scum has day chat.

I'm less sure about screen now too.

Id rather see someone shoot RM first over screen.

I get what you're saying I guess. We are rather familiar and get along quite well outside of game in sitechat and stuff due to both being British in the same academic year so we have talked about a lot of that stuff we relate with, if you mean that we seem too comfortable? I'm not really sure what else to say.

Also I don't want to even get started into how atrocious and irritating 754 is.

Like, you've just lazily listed what I've said and just gone "wow haha" without actually making any sound argument as to why anything I've said is bad, and your few points are absolutely piss poor reasoning. I could go through every phrase and kick it in the face but that would be giving your so-called "counters" way more credit and legitimacy than they deserve.

Oh, BTW someoen has to shoot not_mafia at some point for 2 reasons:

1. We will NEVER be able to read his alignment.
2. Even if he is town, he will throw the game by shooting someone who says a magic word

I don't think how flipped scum handeld anythink is that good an example when flipped scum handeld an ishue in an absolut insane way.
Yes Mum claimed before she was shoot.
I would say scum has probably daychat since they won't have many nights.

I do agree that was an absolute trollshoot, trolls have to die this game.

Now you see why I took so long to respond to that self meta!

Pedit: @Dav

Someone should shoot Not_Mafia...

In post 761, Momrangal wrote:Now you see why I took so long to respond to that self meta!

Pedit: @Dav

But you also ignored the multiball point, a point which is apparently so bad you can't even counter it. Funny.

In post 754, Momrangal wrote:something about IIOA being invalid because everyone has to scum hunt (like this is my first multiball ever)

Wanna try and read again?

where is the counter you're literally just restating what I said and adding a small bracketed bit that makes no sense as to any counter like there is no counter there seriously

Can someone else back me up here because I'm going to feel like I'm going crazy soon

In post 754, Momrangal wrote:*yawn*

I hear scum whining about me not relenting my read because of some self meta defense, something about IIOA being invalid because everyone has to scum hunt (like this is my first multiball ever) and claiming I'm scum for "randomly shooting " someone who could be solid town because I was pinged by his posts even though SO FAR everyone who was gun happy flipped town.

Meanwhile he completely ignores how I am handling bp and how flipped scum handled his.

BTW I have more than one shot which is why I said I still needed to be strong armed

True, randomly shooting is not a scum tell.

Difference between you and Snarky: I think it's just the difference between you and Snarky. His handling of the BP was idiotic. Smart scum would not do that. I say nai.


Yet the only scum reasoning for saying you need to be strong armed, is to get someone to use or reveal their strongman status. (or be afraid to shoot)
And the only town reasoning is doing it to stop people wasting their shots. So the scum reasons seem slightly stronger, but not by too much.

Davsto: What was the argument again?
Sometimes between back and forth, this is kind of lost.
Can you state clear what this is about for us lazy people.

In post 765, Davsto wrote:where is the counter you're literally just restating what I said and adding a small bracketed bit that makes no sense as to any counter like there is no counter there seriously

Can someone else back me up here because I'm going to feel like I'm going crazy soon

We're all crazy, you're all crazy now...

I do see what you're talking about.

In post 713, Creature wrote:Notable slankers:
Not_Mafia
Austerity
hebichan

Theta Alpine

katokashi

wingedcatgirl

In post 657, Sando wrote:PRICKS (and sometimes WANKERS and PRANKERS) members:
Sando
Taly
the worst
Iconeum
TheBrie
Chickadee

Wingedcatgirl

Theta Alpine

light_ganski

Comparing PRICKS with creature's slacker list (I don't disagree with it for the most part), I'd add randomidget to the slacker list too.

If we're considering that scum are more likely than not to have held their shots (though I wouldn't give TOO much weight to this), and that there's going to be at least a couple of scum on PRICKS for the sake of keeping out of the firing line, I'd lean scum on anyone who hasn't contributed much but is also on PRICKS. (Call me on this if it's bad logic though)

Other than those, on PRICKS I like the look of Sando and Taly. Both contributing and working and I've already addressed that in my walls. Not as sure what to think of the worst, lots of low content posts > makes me iffy but there's far worse people. TheBrie's not been as active, and most of her content's been focussed on shot analysis - though I see nothing wrong with that, 704 and 707 are constructive. Iconeum's been low energy, made several posts espousing the need for PRICKS and refused to give explanation for reads (265). Chickadee's said sod all too.

So townreading sando, taly, creature.

Town lean the worst for now.

Genuinely struggling to town read most others here.

At the frustrating point where I want to policy kill anti town actors but in this mess it'll probably do nothing for us.

My gut wants NM to go, my head wants to hear more from him. Though I'd like to see srceen bleed

Theta alpine, you're on PRICKS but you've not said much about people yet. What are you thinking? (and that goes for anyone else who isn't giving detailed thoughts tbh)

If people have questions give me them, I need something to help get me thinking

In post 767, StefanB wrote:Davsto: What was the argument again?
Sometimes between back and forth, this is kind of lost.
Can you state clear what this is about for us lazy people.

If you scroll to the bottom of the page there's a little box with the label in front saying "Display posts by user". If you select me in the box, click the little plus sign to the right and then select Momrangel (and then Go) you'll get all of just mine and Mom's posts. That'll give you a better explanation than I really can but I'll attempt anyway

> I think Mom is scummy because she made a quick and lazy shot without even reading the game but also made it clear it was a serious scumread shot. She also has basically not explained a single one of her reads, and her only reasoning for her read on me is stating "IIoA", something which I've explained for various reasons as being invalid yet she largely just brushed it off and ignored it. There are also other minor points.
> Mom thinks I am scummy because ??? and IIoA I guess. After I pointed out she ignored my counter of that, she made a bizarre post where she attempted to defend herself from me but largely formed half-thoughts or even didn't counter anything I said just acknowledged it, and also made several other flawed points that I'll get to tomorrow when I give more of a shit.

Maybe a little biased but in my defence, she is scum.

[quote="In post 724, Taly"

- Engages... ****ing do not shoot this to see if Town have BP.... .
[/quote]
I won't. I'm not stupid enough to shoot likely town to prove a point. Rather shoot myself than the worst.

To gain anymore information about BPs in general, I'd go shoot srceenplay or Mom. But neither of them are going to fall afoul of PRANKERS due to their shots already being gone.

So okay Mom for the lazy can you explain why Davsto is scum.

Should make it easier for other players, who still have a shoot.

Since you asked, I guess so. Gonna do this piece by piece so it isn't a huge wall