A joint ruru+ofrhz iso shows them barely interacting; a few NAI things at the beginning, ruru voting ofrhz for which barely any reasons get given (the quoted post is the only one it seems, which is not that strong) and ofrhz townreading ruru.
I get the impression these guys have played a few games together, right? Now I'm no meta expert by any means but wouldn't you expect them to be able to like, read each other better, in more detail than is happening now?
While odds of both being scum are obviously low, both of their latest posts haven't been stellar... I think. Discuss?
pedit: Said it before but I think I read Math saying his scumgame is similar to towngame, but he tries to leave the town-motivated parts out as good as he can. If anyone recognizes that... it might warrant a lynch.
Aren’t rurus reasons for scumreading me basically the same reasons why you’re voting for me?
I can elaborate more on my TR of ruru later in the day when I’m not on my phone
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:13 am
by HeWhoSwims
I mean I don't disagree. Do you have anything new on him? Or based on past games since you do seem to know each other. How do you feel about his reasons to townread you?
pedit: Yeah, kinda, I was curious if ruru happened to have more on you than the not scumhunting since I think I saw you had played games together in the past.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:30 am
by ruru
In post 504, ofrhz wrote:But probably by far the largest reason is that I have a hard time believing that someone read my scum game in Newbie 1865 like he claimed (my only finished scumgame on-site) and came to the conclusion that I could be scum this game. I kinda think the differences in my gameplay have already been night and day
I also find this misleading, like ofrhz was obvtown (at least to me) in that game for the early part of d1, and got mislynched mostly due to some gamethrowy posts (especially softing VT when there was no reason to)
I think they're pretty LHF to anyone who's played with scum.me
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:34 am
by davesaz
LHF? Can't say I'm familiar with that one.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:34 am
by HeWhoSwims
Thanks. But what do you mean by siterules? It seems he isn't talking about ongoing games. What's LHF.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:35 am
by ruru
I also find this misleading, like ofrhz was obvtown (at least to me) in that game for the early part of d1, and got mislynched mostly due to some gamethrowy posts (especially softing VT when there was no reason to)
Also in that game ofrhz had awesome d1 reads and to some extent got scumread for being right
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:37 am
by ruru
I meant I can't explain further because it would break site rules
to scumread ofhrz.
That's the question that ruru absolutely refuses to answer.
Not answering it is unacceptable. Without the info I can't properly read
either
of the slots.
I am incredulous that the one thing missing from your ability to read ruru was her answer to why she's voting ofhrz. However, I agree she should provide a reason. I don't think lack of written reasoning is scummy, but it isn't pro-town, so encouraging good town play is fine.
But let's move on.
Ruru has answered your question.
Two followups:
Do you feel she has fully answered your question to your satisfaction, or did she give you the runaround?
Based on her answer, how do you read those slots now?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:43 am
by HeWhoSwims
Non game related but why do you think you can't explain because of the site rules? Are you perhaps misreading them? Because anything from past games that are now finished is fine.
Nevertheless thanks for the answers.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:44 am
by Zoronos
In post 749, ruru wrote:I'm reading you as likely town because moving your vote from Md to me after I talked about policy lynching you would be suicidal for scum
He was arguing with me about his MD read at the time, which brings up a good question. In all the discussion of his original position, I think this is relevant:
Hey, Daveasz, what's the current state of your MathDino read? He has, to my eyes, become more engaged with the game in the time since you wrote your case on him. Has MathDino's recent posting changed your mind or reinforced original suspicion?
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:56 am
by HitAlt
In post 714, the worst wrote:Dude have you actually caught scum in your career? One? Maybe two?
If only you knew.
And while you are undoubtedly very good at this game, your AtE and potrayed aggression isn't top notch yet.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 7:07 am
by davesaz
In post 758, HeWhoSwims wrote:Non game related but why do you think you can't explain because of the site rules? Are you perhaps misreading them? Because anything from past games that are now finished is fine.
Nevertheless thanks for the answers.
Going into this further would risk breaking that very rule.
For now you can safely drop that as a question, thanks.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 8:56 am
by Almost50
Sharing is Caring D1 VC #12
S_S V/LA till Tuesday
(expired on 2018-06-06 23:00:00)
There was this pun contest I was in, and I submitted 10 entries, in hopes one would win. Unfortunately, no pun in ten did.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 9:58 am
by ofrhz
In post 637, BlackStar wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure who could be ohfrz's partner of he flips scum so I'm just trying to spark some discussion
I also find this misleading, like ofrhz was obvtown (at least to me) in that game for the early part of d1, and got mislynched mostly due to some gamethrowy posts (especially softing VT when there was no reason to)
Also in that game ofrhz had awesome d1 reads and to some extent got scumread for being right
Sheep me then
I’m back to my regular schedule so my activity should go back to pre-vacation levels, in case people think activity is a useful tell (it isn’t)
You’re also scumreading me for the other thing and we can talk about it in depth once it no longer violates site rules
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:19 am
by the worst
ofrhz if you aren't scum who is?
I'll give you a hint: we're not lynching me today.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:20 am
by the worst
like you clearly don't believe in where you've parked your vote. you're not communicating anything and just asked one of the townier players in the game to sleep you onto a really bad vote which she's been smart and voiced her intentions to leave until d2?
You can't be getting lynched for calling the whole scumteam d1 if you only have like one sr though
Why is tw scum
You’re also scumreading me for the other thing and we can talk about it in depth once it no longer violates site rules
hmm
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:33 am
by ruru
@Almost50 You have two different ofrhz wagons
(L3 if it's otherwise correct?)
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:43 am
by jjh927
In post 737, ruru wrote:I don't think the dinosaur would lie about this
In post 199, Mathdino wrote:Would NSG be aware that jjh has a reputation for being super obvtown as town?
and you're not obvtown to me
Yeah that's a shit reason.
Mathdino hasn't actually played with me iirc, he's just seen me play at least twice. I'm pretty easy to read if you know how I play but I am of the opinion I don't obvtown conventionally. Like, math would probably agree I obvtowned in team mafia, but I still got wagoned significantly day 1.
So basically, Math is wrong. If I have a reputation for being obvtown it's within the group of people who have frequently played with me.
Mathdino hasn't actually played with me iirc, he's just seen me play at least twice. I'm pretty easy to read if you know how I play but I am of the opinion I don't obvtown conventionally. Like, math would probably agree I obvtowned in team mafia, but I still got wagoned significantly day 1.
So basically, Math is wrong. If I have a reputation for being obvtown it's within the group of people who have frequently played with me.
You got anything else?
I also think nsg is town, her reads tend to be sheepworthy, and she's scumreading you
