In post 529, Kublai Khan wrote:No. He's not on my townlist right now. But not near the top of the scumlist either. If other people weren't pushing him, I might be.
Scion is a vanity wagon so join us over here:
VOTE: JarJar
Eh.. not really vanity. It was a prodding vote. Which worked. But yeah, let's move the vote.
JarJarDrinks(4) ~ Golden Robster, Myloninja13, Osuka, Vaxkiller
Robster is town. Mafia logic says one or more of these other numbnuts are scum.
VOTE: Osuka
Lotsa good folk on this wagon
and
then
, there's this post. jarjar i'll tell you right now that you're in a pretty deep hole but so are some other slots, so if you just let go of the shovel and let everyone else dig themselves deeper, you might not top my lynch list tonight
- you have asked a lot of questions - do you have any conclusions? or just reads.
My strongest scum reads are Osuka and ArcAngel9. I'm still waiting for ArcAngel9 to come back and explain 235. I definitely need to see more from her.
I am suspicious of Edos (because I thought A50's reasons had some merit), ETL (who explained his metoo post, but I'd like to see more), Lovebird (who jumped on the Edos bandwagon, but claimed it wasn't a sheep and claimed she had her own reasons, but didn't bother to tell us what they were).
my dude, neither is yours. you basically didn't say anything substantial in half the posts from 574 to 586. i don't like how your catch up mostly feels like asking miscellaneous questions and redirecting statements
In post 516, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:and also i'm pretty sure i declared v/la so i didn't have time to quote and go into it more than pointing out something i agreed with. that's gonna be the case for much of this first game day. personal shit. i'm not gonna waste time defending my short posts for today. deal with it. ALSO ALSO i find it suspicious that you jumped to his defense. just saying.
I find suspicious that you voted me because you thought my opening my lamist, then dunn echoes you by saying that my opening post was scummy, texcat asked dunn for elaboration, then you say texcat was "defending" me... really now??
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VOTE: wavemode
because last time we played together you were scum and I’m pretty sure you made it to end game
These are the most suspicious posts I noticed from an osuka ISO, when looking at why he was the leading wagon. He even votes wavemode twice in a row. Votes wave and votes him again, despite already voting him. None of this makes sense if osuka is town. VOTE: osuka
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Also, we're getting close to the Saturday half-day mark. If we can consolidate votes, that would be good.
how far up your ass, exactly, is your head?
you're picking on rvs posts? we're in the 600s already - if this isn't a straight up invented case on someone, i don't know what is
and "consolidate votes"? really? that sounds disgusting
why would you want to "consolidate votes" (read: wagon someone, probably town, so that you can lynch someone without personal repercussions) halfway through the day, especially if it's day 1? we still have a week left until n1 and you're already talking about the deadline, jesus
In post 59, osuka wrote:if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me
what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?
i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs
So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?
scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game
In post 59, osuka wrote:if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me
what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?
i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs
So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?
scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game
this is, hands down, one of the most shit reasons i've ever seen anyone try to start a lynch wagon on d1 for. especially given that the post of mine you use as the (apparently sole) reason for the push was actually a reply to a question of none other than yourself
In post 59, osuka wrote:if I got a nickel for every time this was said about me
what specifically do u get called out about? Being LAMIST?
i mean what they say will vary, but I generally get called out as being scummy very early in the game by at least some of the players. Usually during rvs
So I guess we should just give u a pass on any scumminess huh?
scumpoints for an unprompted self-meta this early in the game
In post 87, Charles510 wrote:VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.
Why is that bad?
Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?
Here’s a better question: why would anyone townread you for doing that
I'll answer u after charles answers me.
In post 114, JarJarDrinks wrote:So I guess we have to lynch almost to see if we win on day 1.
VOTE: Almost50
VOTE: jarjar
the lynch train goes choo choo
In post 135, osuka wrote:Jarjar is giving me mad newbscum vibes, which is funny since he’s played more here than I have
plus the way you reacted to the push on this page
Idk, osuka hasn’t been looking very good to me and this is detailing why somewhat: his priorities on what he’s pushing feel distorted
what are my perceived priorities vs. the ones you expect?
The questions you’re asking don’t feel important at all, they feel like busywork
Also gonna note osuka is taking a hard offensive against Performer here
As I have been reading through all these pages and catching up, the thing that stood out to me was the self meta thing, along with his response through voting JarJar. Seems a little overly defensive and to me like he picked and chose the easiest target to go after to try and get another lynch wagon going.
funny way to write "i'll just sheep jarjar"
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:50 am
by osuka
from 682-689, gamma sounds really towny and, to an extent, so does a50.
there's actually a good chance that that's tvt - but if it is not, i'm picking gamma to be the town side every time
In post 690, Performer wrote:"P.S. Don't forget I am one of the best players on MS who can read you. Also, I already had Edo down as Scum, and you only confirmed it to me. 100% Scum slot."
Whoaaaa a50. I think I am out of my league being in this game LOL.
I had edo as scum because of lurk though. Gamma is the complete opposite.
Well it's true. Ask him. I have more than 80% accuracy reading Gamma vs less than 40% average in general (and some players I have less than 10% hit rate on them).
The meme was referring to a game I was so sure he was scum I fake claimed a guilty on him and his response convinced others to lynch him even after I declared it was fake (and he did flip scum).
In post 692, Hopkirk wrote:@Gamma: your catchup comes from scum Gamma. It reminds me a lot of a scum sub-in and catch up you did last time we played. Is this playstyle/do you catch up the same as town (if so can you link something I guess).
@Performer: See? I'm not the only one who can see through that facade Gamma's putting on. I'm just as convinced Osuka is Scum so I don't mind lynching her first.
this is a shitty post and a shittier attempt at pushing the gamma slot. you can't just claim "i know how to read this player and nobody else does" and expect an actual discussion to exist, because that's an argument that's at least partially subjective and very difficult to refute
In post 679, Vaxkiller wrote:I have no read on Osuka but I could vote there, but I would prefer GoldenRob. Is tehre a case on osuka or just the typical Day 1 lynchmob?
Says he would vote there but tries to subtlety hint that the wagon isnt good.
my guy you're trying to run associations under the assumption that i'm scum, but if i do get lynched today i'll flip green and i hope you're at the top of everyone else's lynch pools tomorrow. i haven't acknowledged vax because there was nothing to engage him on, and honestly he's right in the sense that the wagon you spawned hinges on 112
In post 320, osuka wrote:not sure how i feel about hopkirk. very up in the air right now, but i'm fairly sure that slot is either pr or scum.
a50 has been having a breakdown as of page 12. tops my lynch pool, along with aa9 and jarjar.
khan can be town for now
I think he’s kinda been sensible, why do you perceive it as a breakdown?
just his general tone makes him sound like he's so far out of his comfort zone that it's a little pitiful, really
That’s not how I interpret it at all, he seems perfectly fine
agree to disagree i suppose
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:59 am
by Ircher
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:02 am
by osuka
updated lynch pool, in no particular order:
performer
a50
khan
hopkirk
jarjar
therampage
those are names i want to discuss more. i expect at least 4 of those to be scum VOTE: performer
since people dont wanna talk about jarjar
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:05 am
by Ausuka
In post 769, osuka wrote:
those are names i want to discuss more. i expect at least 4 of those to be scum
4/6 is very optimistic.
In post 769, osuka wrote:
performer
a50
khan
hopkirk
jarjar
therampage
Feel pretty confident there's 0 scum in {perf, a50, hopkirk} but idk how to explain that to you. I played with perf on my old account as both scum and town and I don't think I ever read him incorrectly, but he's massive mislynch bait in general, partially because his tone is awkward and unnatural to most people? I don't know exactly. Join me on Rampage? I feel like he's likely scum jumping on your wagon.
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:15 am
by osuka
i can join you on rampage, sure. i still think performer is scummy af but as i said i'm happy to put pressure and discuss any of those names VOTE: rampage