you can shade an opinion without wanting the slot lynched.In post 747, Toranaga wrote:yeah I was criticizing the individual, cause I find her way to play unhelpful to town. it wasn't a read or shade of her, I townread sakura. when I want someone lynched, you bet I'm gonna leave it extremely clear for you titus.In post 744, Titus wrote:I struggle with following that. Criticizing involves attacking the arguments, much like Cerb and I do to each other. Shading is more ad hominem if you follow. It criticizes the person more than the argument. For instance, he's scum and not worth listening to. So when you call Sakura an entilted millenial, it has zero to do with her position but attacks her credibility as an individusl.In post 739, Toranaga wrote:criticizing.In post 733, Gamma Emerald wrote:Idk about that millenial logic, if you were'nt shading what were you doing?In post 607, Toranaga wrote:VOTE: titusIn post 601, Titus wrote:These posts shade Sakura fwiw. You imply she's millenial and thus lesser.In post 597, Sakura Hana wrote:That is correct.In post 588, Toranaga wrote:you gave reads, just didn't expand when asked.I'd appreciate it if you didnt talk about it in that way, I never said I was better than anyone, nor that my reads should be listened to without explanation, im just relaxing and being lazy.In post 588, Toranaga wrote:if you can go down from your millennial podium for a second to explain this one I'd appreciate it.
I'm doing this.
calling someone a millennial being on the same footing with shading them has to be the most nonsense thing I was ever accused with, which reminds me of when I posted a voldemort gif and you said I was claiming scum in assassins' creed.
this is what you do as scum. you throw any logic out the window to push whatever you want pushed. you'd be more reasonable as town.
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I'm failing to understand how you struggle with the notion of criticizing someone being different from casting shade on their alignment. my reasoning for doing so with sakura is that 1) it bothered me and 2) I want helpfulness instead of people being obtuse on purpose for reasons.In post 747, Toranaga wrote: yeah I was criticizing the individual, cause I find her way to play unhelpful to town. it wasn't a read or shade of her, I townread sakura. when I want someone lynched, you bet I'm gonna leave it extremely clear for you titus.- The Dream Weaver
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notice I've done the same sort of comment with human sequencer. it wasn't a shade either, I was just trying to get his thoughts out there when he refused to do so. here:
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my last games here before I took a break, I was town with smocaine a lot and his play was 100% bad reads with obtuse reasoning and over the top confidence that I couldn't interact with in any way. If he was trying to win instead of appearing wise and always right, I'd maybe have an easier time playing town. other players do similar ego things that are unhelpful. I've grown to dislike it, so I'm preemptively aggressive with it. people can look cool in other games, I'd rather have them communicating clearly in games I'm in. especially when I care, which is the case.- Toranaga
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is this satireIn post 505, Sakura Hana wrote:
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Can you say who they are? Also explain what the fuck your whole deal with Cupcake is because it's kinda sketchyIn post 489, zMuffinMan wrote:
yeahIn post 479, Gamma Emerald wrote:Do you have any actual scumreads?
not just from this post eithernah- Human Sequencer
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cerb can be town for this postIn post 532, Cerberus v666 wrote:
-snip-In post 526, Sakura Hana wrote:
And so what im doing in this game was born.In post 2488, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm definitely not repeating that day 1 again.
really doubt it's faked
I'm also thinking Sakura is scummy but not necessarily for the same reasons
It looks like Sakura is putting a lot of effort into showing how little she cares, and it doesn't look like she doesn't care
Basically it looks like she's acting
I'm a little apprehensive because I was wrong on this read last game
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I'm saying I should have pushed your response. both for the "RVS and fence-sitting" comment, for the reasons sando expose, and also because your reasoning for calling my stance fence-sitting doesn't match what I did. you said I was "doing a lot of conflict resolution", when I was townreading everyone that wagoned a certain player I did not have a townread on, and you should never have that read in the first place.
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T H I SIn post 559, zMuffinMan wrote:stop quoting entire fucking chains of posts
jesus fucking christ
quote the relevant content alone
cerb vs titus bores me
Nancy is lookin like her usual naive self, probably town
should be an easy sort with more content, specifically more content that isn't so emotionally charged
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alright mate
i really don't see why a vote can't be partly rvs
Maybe the meta has changed (I took a long break) but my understanding was when u join the game u put a random vote on whoever to get the game rolling
if u can find a reason to back it up, more power to you, but because of how early these votes are (this happened on fucking page three) they aren't really taken too seriously
fence sit comment literally comes from you saying "so I'm fine townreading all of them as much as it's possible this early" which lightly pinged me
"conflict resolution" comes from followup post 65 where you did this weird appeal that felt manipulative to me in the moment, and I responded defensively
either you made a bunch of weird off base but town motivated assumptions about me and how I play and are trying to get me to cooperate or you're stating the obvious as scum to try and make me feel like an idiot and make me act how you want me to whilst making it look like you're just trying to keep everything well mannered and calm
at the time I went with the latter
while reading more I've seen you promote that same kind of gamestate consistently, though, in situations where I can't find a scum motivation to do so, which is swaying me
so 1.
does all of that make sense
and 2.
does it even matter
and now I sleep
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that was pretty good actually.In post 764, Human Sequencer wrote:
T H I SIn post 559, zMuffinMan wrote:stop quoting entire fucking chains of posts
jesus fucking christ
quote the relevant content alone
cerb vs titus bores me
Nancy is lookin like her usual naive self, probably town
should be an easy sort with more content, specifically more content that isn't so emotionally charged
PEDIT:
alright mate
i really don't see why a vote can't be partly rvs
Maybe the meta has changed (I took a long break) but my understanding was when u join the game u put a random vote on whoever to get the game rolling
if u can find a reason to back it up, more power to you, but because of how early these votes are (this happened on fucking page three) they aren't really taken too seriously
fence sit comment literally comes from you saying "so I'm fine townreading all of them as much as it's possible this early" which lightly pinged me
"conflict resolution" comes from followup post 65 where you did this weird appeal that felt manipulative to me in the moment, and I responded defensively
either you made a bunch of weird off base but town motivated assumptions about me and how I play and are trying to get me to cooperate or you're stating the obvious as scum to try and make me feel like an idiot and make me act how you want me to whilst making it look like you're just trying to keep everything well mannered and calm
at the time I went with the latter
while reading more I've seen you promote that same kind of gamestate consistently, though, in situations where I can't find a scum motivation to do so, which is swaying me
so 1.
does all of that make sense
and 2.
does it even matter
and now I sleep
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What do you think I’m being naive about specifically? And sorry about that, the wound is still fresh.In post 764, Human Sequencer wrote:
T H I SIn post 559, zMuffinMan wrote:stop quoting entire fucking chains of posts
jesus fucking christ
quote the relevant content alone
cerb vs titus bores me
Nancy is lookin like her usual naive self, probably town
should be an easy sort with more content, specifically more content that isn't so emotionally charged
PEDIT:
alright mate
i really don't see why a vote can't be partly rvs
Maybe the meta has changed (I took a long break) but my understanding was when u join the game u put a random vote on whoever to get the game rolling
if u can find a reason to back it up, more power to you, but because of how early these votes are (this happened on fucking page three) they aren't really taken too seriously
fence sit comment literally comes from you saying "so I'm fine townreading all of them as much as it's possible this early" which lightly pinged me
"conflict resolution" comes from followup post 65 where you did this weird appeal that felt manipulative to me in the moment, and I responded defensively
either you made a bunch of weird off base but town motivated assumptions about me and how I play and are trying to get me to cooperate or you're stating the obvious as scum to try and make me feel like an idiot and make me act how you want me to whilst making it look like you're just trying to keep everything well mannered and calm
at the time I went with the latter
while reading more I've seen you promote that same kind of gamestate consistently, though, in situations where I can't find a scum motivation to do so, which is swaying me
so 1.
does all of that make sense
and 2.
does it even matter
and now I sleep
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Sando puts more effort into their posts than anyone else in the game - probably town
I like how UFO is pushing people hard.
Brass is definitely different here than he was in Necro - a lot more content. I like his thought processes.
FA seems to have good tone.
I’m really liking Titus - plenty of nuanced reads, good interactions, plus is adorable.
Human seems okay so far, I will need to see more from him
Gamma seems okay, some posts seem to be a bit contradictory but tone seems villagery.
Random needs to start posting more. Seems like disinterested villa
Need more on Katsuki, Kokichi and Chick
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How exactly is it scum-motivated? Or rather, why are you jumping the gun here?In post 475, Gamma Emerald wrote:
VOTE: KatsukiIn post 428, Katsuki wrote:I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.
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I don’t see how either of the given abilities help scum. They look likely help town more tbqh.In post 485, Frozen Angel wrote:Oh so alisae is switching like the way ufo was in nintendo game
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Hmmmmmm.......In post 512, Sakura Hana wrote:
But they arent.In post 510, Cerberus v666 wrote:And yet if everyone does what you're doing
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Yeah, I’m thinking what Katsuki is claiming does seem farfetched but it seems like a strange thing to make up. Perhaps, he can squeeze some game-related content into his posts, so we can be better able to sort him?In post 769, 123456789 wrote:
How exactly is it scum-motivated? Or rather, why are you jumping the gun here?In post 475, Gamma Emerald wrote:
VOTE: KatsukiIn post 428, Katsuki wrote:I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.
This is both impossible/a lie and a scum-motivated post
Although Katsuki isn’t beyond making fake claims as either alignment. I’ve probably only been in a handful of games where I can confidently determine a scum motivtion - straight off the bat.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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P.edit on D1 or early game. My reads get more detailed and have more context, the further into the game I get.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Sando
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So my current TRs are FA, duckling and Sakura (who doesn't pick a mechanical fight with me as scum imo). I normally build a "Town list", a "not to be lynched today list", a "yeah ok you can lynch them list" and a "scum list". That said, are we coordinating the next leader openly? Cause while I think we should obviously go for as townie as possible in our leader list, there's some townies that I don't feel completely comfortable picking as leader (although still better choices than anyone not in townie list).
Scum have daychat correct? Otherwise I'd say as a means of coded messages.In post 769, 123456789 wrote:How exactly is it scum-motivated? Or rather, why are you jumping the gun here?
I don't understand FAs post, what was UFO doing in nintendo?In post 770, 123456789 wrote:
I don’t see how either of the given abilities help scum. They look likely help town more tbqh.In post 485, Frozen Angel wrote:Oh so alisae is switching like the way ufo was in nintendo game
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