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In post 747, Toranaga wrote:

In post 744, Titus wrote:

In post 739, Toranaga wrote:

In post 733, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 607, Toranaga wrote:

In post 601, Titus wrote:

In post 597, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 588, Toranaga wrote:you gave reads, just didn't expand when asked.

That is correct.

In post 588, Toranaga wrote:if you can go down from your millennial podium for a second to explain this one I'd appreciate it.

I'd appreciate it if you didnt talk about it in that way, I never said I was better than anyone, nor that my reads should be listened to without explanation, im just relaxing and being lazy.

These posts shade Sakura fwiw. You imply she's millenial and thus lesser.

VOTE: titus

I'm doing this.

calling someone a millennial being on the same footing with shading them has to be the most nonsense thing I was ever accused with, which reminds me of when I posted a voldemort gif and you said I was claiming scum in assassins' creed.

this is what you do as scum. you throw any logic out the window to push whatever you want pushed. you'd be more reasonable as town.

Idk about that millenial logic, if you were'nt shading what were you doing?

criticizing.

I struggle with following that. Criticizing involves attacking the arguments, much like Cerb and I do to each other. Shading is more ad hominem if you follow. It criticizes the person more than the argument. For instance, he's scum and not worth listening to. So when you call Sakura an entilted millenial, it has zero to do with her position but attacks her credibility as an individusl.

yeah I was criticizing the individual, cause I find her way to play unhelpful to town. it wasn't a read or shade of her, I townread sakura. when I want someone lynched, you bet I'm gonna leave it extremely clear for you titus.

you can shade an opinion without wanting the slot lynched.

In post 747, Toranaga wrote: yeah I was criticizing the individual, cause I find her way to play unhelpful to town. it wasn't a read or shade of her, I townread sakura. when I want someone lynched, you bet I'm gonna leave it extremely clear for you titus.

I'm failing to understand how you struggle with the notion of criticizing someone being different from casting shade on their alignment. my reasoning for doing so with sakura is that 1) it bothered me and 2) I want helpfulness instead of people being obtuse on purpose for reasons.

Votecount 1.7

Leader: Frozen Angel

zMuffinMan (6):

BBmolla, Katsuki, Chickadee, Frozen Angel, Nancy Drew 39, brassherald

Cerberus v666 (2):

Sakura Hana, Titus

Katsuki (2):

zMuffinMan, Gamma Emerald

randomidget (1):

Toranaga

Titus (1):

123456789

123456789 (0):

BBmolla (0):

brassherald (0):

Chickadee (0):

Drixx (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

hebichan (0):

Human Sequencer (0):

Kokichi Oma (0):

Myloninja13 (0):

Nancy Drew 39 (0):

Nico Robin (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Sando (0):

Shiro (0):

the worst (0):

Toranaga (0):

Wasting Their Vote (1):

hebichan

Not Voting (10):

Everyone Else

With

23

players, it takes

12

to lynch.
The day ends in (expired on 2018-07-15 18:00:00).

123456789 is on V/LA for (expired on 2018-07-09 00:00:00)
Drixx is on V/LA for (expired on 2018-07-09 01:34:00)
Nancy Drew 39 is on V/LA for (expired on 2018-07-13 00:00:00)
the worst is on V/LA for (expired on 2018-07-09 00:00:00)

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inb4 prod sry been busy am in the process of reading up

notice I've done the same sort of comment with human sequencer. it wasn't a shade either, I was just trying to get his thoughts out there when he refused to do so. here:

In post 65, Toranaga wrote:

In post 64, Human Sequencer wrote:yeah
exactly that

glad you understand

you should explain your reasons in clear manner so everyone knows what your mindset really is instead of playing mysteriously like your read is so relevant it should be left for

later

because of

reasons

. IDK what fence-sittery means and rather have it spelled it out for me and the thread. if you're a villager, work with me. don't do this. it doesn't make you cool.

my last games here before I took a break, I was town with smocaine a lot and his play was 100% bad reads with obtuse reasoning and over the top confidence that I couldn't interact with in any way. If he was trying to win instead of appearing wise and always right, I'd maybe have an easier time playing town. other players do similar ego things that are unhelpful. I've grown to dislike it, so I'm preemptively aggressive with it. people can look cool in other games, I'd rather have them communicating clearly in games I'm in. especially when I care, which is the case.

should have probably pushed human sequencer for his response to that post I made...

In post 459, Chickadee wrote:I'm terribly behind. This thread is going too quickly for me. Don't you guys have like....jobs or anything? I'm going to work. I may or may not do a serious catch up later. It's probably more likely that I'll skim through and have a shaky grasp on the game state. aaaahhhh...

this

u wot
i did respond to that comment

In post 505, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 500, Frozen Angel wrote:can you write one sentence for each

Can? Sure.
Will I? Nah.

Don't feel interested enough to defend any TR or SR yet, much rather see if anyone notices what im noticing.

is this satire

In post 509, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 489, zMuffinMan wrote:

In post 479, Gamma Emerald wrote:Do you have any actual scumreads?

yeah

Can you say who they are? Also explain what the fuck your whole deal with Cupcake is because it's kinda sketchy

clueless gamma is town gamma
not just from this post either

In post 532, Cerberus v666 wrote:

In post 526, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 2488, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm definitely not repeating that day 1 again.

And so what im doing in this game was born.

-snip-

cerb can be town for this post
really doubt it's faked
I'm also thinking Sakura is scummy but not necessarily for the same reasons

It looks like Sakura is putting a lot of effort into showing how little she cares, and it doesn't look like she doesn't care
Basically it looks like she's acting
I'm a little apprehensive because I was wrong on this read last game

Maybe Sakura just always looks like she's acting and being dishonest

In post 759, Human Sequencer wrote:u wot
i did respond to that comment

I'm saying I should have pushed your response. both for the "RVS and fence-sitting" comment, for the reasons sando expose, and also because your reasoning for calling my stance fence-sitting doesn't match what I did. you said I was "doing a lot of conflict resolution", when I was townreading everyone that wagoned a certain player I did not have a townread on, and you should never have that read in the first place.

I immediately villa read your response but quickly regretted it and it looks worse everytime I look at it.

In post 559, zMuffinMan wrote:stop quoting entire fucking chains of posts

jesus fucking christ

quote the relevant content alone

T H I S

cerb vs titus bores me

Nancy is lookin like her usual naive self, probably town
should be an easy sort with more content, specifically more content that isn't so emotionally charged

PEDIT:
alright mate

i really don't see why a vote can't be partly rvs
Maybe the meta has changed (I took a long break) but my understanding was when u join the game u put a random vote on whoever to get the game rolling
if u can find a reason to back it up, more power to you, but because of how early these votes are (this happened on fucking page three) they aren't really taken too seriously
fence sit comment literally comes from you saying "so I'm fine townreading all of them as much as it's possible this early" which lightly pinged me

"conflict resolution" comes from followup post 65 where you did this weird appeal that felt manipulative to me in the moment, and I responded defensively
either you made a bunch of weird off base but town motivated assumptions about me and how I play and are trying to get me to cooperate or you're stating the obvious as scum to try and make me feel like an idiot and make me act how you want me to whilst making it look like you're just trying to keep everything well mannered and calm
at the time I went with the latter
while reading more I've seen you promote that same kind of gamestate consistently, though, in situations where I can't find a scum motivation to do so, which is swaying me

so 1.
does all of that make sense
and 2.
does it even matter

and now I sleep
tfw didn't even manage to catch up

In post 764, Human Sequencer wrote:

In post 559, zMuffinMan wrote:stop quoting entire fucking chains of posts

jesus fucking christ

quote the relevant content alone

T H I S

cerb vs titus bores me

Nancy is lookin like her usual naive self, probably town
should be an easy sort with more content, specifically more content that isn't so emotionally charged

PEDIT:
alright mate

i really don't see why a vote can't be partly rvs
Maybe the meta has changed (I took a long break) but my understanding was when u join the game u put a random vote on whoever to get the game rolling
if u can find a reason to back it up, more power to you, but because of how early these votes are (this happened on fucking page three) they aren't really taken too seriously
fence sit comment literally comes from you saying "so I'm fine townreading all of them as much as it's possible this early" which lightly pinged me

"conflict resolution" comes from followup post 65 where you did this weird appeal that felt manipulative to me in the moment, and I responded defensively
either you made a bunch of weird off base but town motivated assumptions about me and how I play and are trying to get me to cooperate or you're stating the obvious as scum to try and make me feel like an idiot and make me act how you want me to whilst making it look like you're just trying to keep everything well mannered and calm
at the time I went with the latter
while reading more I've seen you promote that same kind of gamestate consistently, though, in situations where I can't find a scum motivation to do so, which is swaying me

so 1.
does all of that make sense
and 2.
does it even matter

and now I sleep
tfw didn't even manage to catch up

that was pretty good actually.

In post 764, Human Sequencer wrote:

In post 559, zMuffinMan wrote:stop quoting entire fucking chains of posts

jesus fucking christ

quote the relevant content alone

T H I S

cerb vs titus bores me

Nancy is lookin like her usual naive self, probably town
should be an easy sort with more content, specifically more content that isn't so emotionally charged

PEDIT:
alright mate

i really don't see why a vote can't be partly rvs
Maybe the meta has changed (I took a long break) but my understanding was when u join the game u put a random vote on whoever to get the game rolling
if u can find a reason to back it up, more power to you, but because of how early these votes are (this happened on fucking page three) they aren't really taken too seriously
fence sit comment literally comes from you saying "so I'm fine townreading all of them as much as it's possible this early" which lightly pinged me

"conflict resolution" comes from followup post 65 where you did this weird appeal that felt manipulative to me in the moment, and I responded defensively
either you made a bunch of weird off base but town motivated assumptions about me and how I play and are trying to get me to cooperate or you're stating the obvious as scum to try and make me feel like an idiot and make me act how you want me to whilst making it look like you're just trying to keep everything well mannered and calm
at the time I went with the latter
while reading more I've seen you promote that same kind of gamestate consistently, though, in situations where I can't find a scum motivation to do so, which is swaying me

so 1.
does all of that make sense
and 2.
does it even matter

and now I sleep
tfw didn't even manage to catch up

What do you think I’m being naive about specifically? And sorry about that, the wound is still fresh.

Sando puts more effort into their posts than anyone else in the game - probably town

I like how UFO is pushing people hard.

Brass is definitely different here than he was in Necro - a lot more content. I like his thought processes.

FA seems to have good tone.

I’m really liking Titus - plenty of nuanced reads, good interactions, plus is adorable.

Human seems okay so far, I will need to see more from him

Gamma seems okay, some posts seem to be a bit contradictory but tone seems villagery.

Random needs to start posting more. Seems like disinterested villa

Need more on Katsuki, Kokichi and Chick

Numbers - troll lol. Are they scum or just obvious mislynchbait?

If anyone has any comments about my reads, I will be leaving in a couple of hours and won’t be back until later in the week. Otherwise, it will probably have to wait until I get back since I’ll have extremely limited internet access.

In post 475, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 428, Katsuki wrote:I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.

VOTE: Katsuki
This is both impossible/a lie and a scum-motivated post

How exactly is it scum-motivated? Or rather, why are you jumping the gun here?

In post 485, Frozen Angel wrote:Oh so alisae is switching like the way ufo was in nintendo game

and probably is doing it to help scum

I don’t see how either of the given abilities help scum. They look likely help town more tbqh.

In post 512, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 510, Cerberus v666 wrote:And yet if everyone does what you're doing

But they arent.

purposefully proceeds to ignore the rest of cerb's post

Hmmmmmm.......

In post 769, 123456789 wrote:

In post 475, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 428, Katsuki wrote:I'll act as a second flavour mod since someone used a post restriction power on me that forces me to have to post a youtube vid in each post. It's rather obnoxious so I'll probably just make empty flavour posts.

VOTE: Katsuki
This is both impossible/a lie and a scum-motivated post

How exactly is it scum-motivated? Or rather, why are you jumping the gun here?

Yeah, I’m thinking what Katsuki is claiming does seem farfetched but it seems like a strange thing to make up. Perhaps, he can squeeze some game-related content into his posts, so we can be better able to sort him?

Although Katsuki isn’t beyond making fake claims as either alignment. I’ve probably only been in a handful of games where I can confidently determine a scum motivtion - straight off the bat.

P.edit on D1 or early game. My reads get more detailed and have more context, the further into the game I get.

So my current TRs are FA, duckling and Sakura (who doesn't pick a mechanical fight with me as scum imo). I normally build a "Town list", a "not to be lynched today list", a "yeah ok you can lynch them list" and a "scum list". That said, are we coordinating the next leader openly? Cause while I think we should obviously go for as townie as possible in our leader list, there's some townies that I don't feel completely comfortable picking as leader (although still better choices than anyone not in townie list).

In post 769, 123456789 wrote:How exactly is it scum-motivated? Or rather, why are you jumping the gun here?

Scum have daychat correct? Otherwise I'd say as a means of coded messages.

In post 770, 123456789 wrote:

In post 485, Frozen Angel wrote:Oh so alisae is switching like the way ufo was in nintendo game

and probably is doing it to help scum

I don’t see how either of the given abilities help scum. They look likely help town more tbqh.

I don't understand FAs post, what was UFO doing in nintendo?