The claim that I'll be conftown if I win a duel is also completely serious
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:56 pm
by Skygazer
FFS I had to click submit like 20 times
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:56 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 743, Firebringer wrote:i could see KatsScum day vigging DGB.
But I kind of almost want to find out who DGB is really good at reading and go back from there, most likely in the older players, because DGB isn't really known in the newer crowd.
Maybe she got shot for supporting Cupcake in the duel.
"That'll show 'em!"
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:57 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I really wish fate was around while Kats was around
In post 743, Firebringer wrote:i could see KatsScum day vigging DGB.
But I kind of almost want to find out who DGB is really good at reading and go back from there, most likely in the older players, because DGB isn't really known in the newer crowd.
Maybe she got shot for supporting Cupcake in the duel.
"That'll show 'em!"
I mean...i can't see the point of that? I guess if you think I am scum it makes sense...
But really only makes sense to me as someone sees DGB as long term threat if we take it out of context of this duel.
Like personally if i was scum, I would have day shot Spiffeh.
In post 620, stungun0404 wrote:539: post that upholds my theory of toog town. again, this level of theory he's spewing is hard for scum to fake.
It really isn't.
it's not so much that one post as it is the consistency of the type of theory he has been spewing that is difficult to maintain, and in his early posts his consistency in what i would label "pro-town/solving the game" type of theory is typically
not
an easy facade for scum to maintain--it involves a lot of concentration and energy towards one game. it is very hard to consistently look like you are "pro-town/solving the game" with respect to the very workings of a game (and that's because the way it's set up; as scum already has an advantage here typically anyway). in my opinion, it's much much harder to fake; and i have several games of scumhunting to my experience where this has worked to find townplayers successfully. no, it's not resolutely against attack, but if he keeps it up i'd hard defend him as town. consistency is the key
(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Fundamental Theorem (100%) - Role PM
Likely Town
(85%-97% Confidence)
Leaning Town
(60%-84% Confidence) Creature (+61%) : He is engaged in the game, and he really feels like town in general.
Null
(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read) Antihero (+15%) : I like 280 (from an alignment-determining standpoint.)
Porkens (-25%) : I don't like how they spend a bunch of their first few posts just quoting stuff and calling it scum, but that may just be a playstyle issue. Also, how does my 107 make me scum???
Neutral
(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read) RadiantCowbells (+55%) : I am leaning towards town based on their posts in general. I especially like their argument for voting neither.
Skygazer (+46%) : They left a pretty good early impression. That said, I'm not sure what to think about 476 and 480. 488 seems bad, but I'm actually kinda inclined to lean towards town for that particular post. 527 is just bad as it tries to assign motivation to the ordering when said motivation likely doesn't exist.
Firebringer (+45%) : To be honest, I think their posts are on the town-side of things, but I'm definitely not confident they are town. 238 really strikes me as a town post. 422 is also good.
Spiffeh (+38%) : Eh, they seem town for the time being.
Garmr (+35%) : Their posts in general have been pretty good.
Brian Skies (-31%) : I really dislike their 79 where they ask us to ignore a vote of theirs because it was simply done to be aggravating. 471 really pings, but I'm not sure why.
Katsuki (-35%) : Their continued AtE really doesn't make me want to townread them in any way.
MariaR (-45%) : I really dislike 377. While I don't want to resurrect that argument, MariaR's behavior on page 18 or so pinged me as well. The fact that MariaR in 675 says Katsuki's behavior is not scum-indicative doesn't really say much about Katsuki's alignment. In particular, with the way MariaR is defending Katsuki, I would think they would (as town) point out how Katsuki is town this game, not how they aren't necessarily scum.
Stungun0404 (-48%) : There seems to be quite a few IIoA posts in this ISO. For instance, 64 (about being familiar with Creature's meta) and 100 (setup spec about the number of scum) are examples of IIoA. I also have a serious issue with their reads in 611. And I dislike 620 as well...
Toogeloo (-53%) : Their posts in general strike a scum!chord to me. The thing that seems to stick out about their posts is that they seem to be LAMIST in nature. For instance, 322 has that LAMIST feel. 330 has that feel as well.
Leaning Scum
(60%-75% Confidence) UnrealSeal (-61%) : I have many issues with this ISO. For instance, 18 is an objectively bad post and feels like scum!Seal trying to pocket and/or buddy Creature. (This is regardless of the fact that it was an exaggeration.) 31 pings me as well. I don't really like 176 because saying someone pings due to asking for a speedlynch sounds much more like a policy reason than a legitimate scumping. Apparently, it doesn't take long for their pings to turn into a full-fledged scumread in 192, but that doesn't mean the reasoning really got any better. Their defense of Katsuki in posts like 281 strikes me as being too forceful/aggressive. 302 is really bad when you consider other posts they have made (like 281). Then we also have posts like 467 (bad logic; get the feeling that Unreal is purposely trying to paint this a certain way) and 469 (where they admit they aren't interested in sorting...)
Likely Scum
(76%-100% Confidence)
Spoiler: How to read this readslist
Players are placed in different sections based on my confidence in the read expressed as a percentage. A positive percentage indicates that I leans towards town on a player whereas a negative percentage indicates I lean towards scum on a player. Please note that the Null an Neutral sections contain both townreads and scumreads and you must look a the sign of the percentage in parenthesis to determine which way I lean.
Confidence ratings are rough estimates and are relative to one another. In addition, they tend to be scored on a logarithmic scale versus a linear scale; in other words, the difference between 0% and 30% tends to be greater than ther difference between 30% and 60%.
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:17 pm
by Fate
probably gonna duel Kats just from reading page 27
see you guys later though
I've got surprises huEHUHEUHEUHEUE
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:17 pm
by Brian Skies
Kats is already being dueled.
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:18 pm
by Fundamental Theorem
In post 764, stungun0404 wrote:just noticed a crucial error in my earlier post to ft, so ebwop
In post 620, stungun0404 wrote:539: post that upholds my theory of toog town. again, this level of theory he's spewing is hard for scum to fake.
It really isn't.
it's not so much that one post as it is the consistency of the type of theory he has been spewing that is difficult to maintain, and in his early posts his consistency in what i would label "pro-town/solving the game" type of theory is typically
not
an easy facade for scum to maintain--it involves a lot of concentration and energy towards one game. it is very hard to consistently look like you are "pro-town/solving the game" with respect to the very workings of a game (and that's because the way it's set up; as scum already has an advantage here typically anyway). in my opinion, it's much much harder to fake; and i have several games of scumhunting to my experience where this has worked to find townplayers successfully. no, it's not resolutely against attack, but if he keeps it up i'd hard defend him as town. consistency is the key