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In post 749, Creature wrote:

In post 730, skitter30 wrote:I mean he given intent or a chance to claim or anything

He simply should not have hammered because it was pretty obvious no one wanted to end the day (besides Garmr who's actually scum)

Why is Garmr scum?

If you really want to be useful in twilight then please make some cases that we can use, not just accusations. Perhaps we're not all as smart as you and haven't seen everything you've seen.

I'm calling it Garmr/Reaper with a smaller chance of Sash being scum

and Persivul will probably mislynch in MyLo/LyLo

Garmr's play today was oriented towards mislynching, not gamesolving

I don't do PbPA, but I can point out something you should watch for

In post 753, Creature wrote:I don't do PbPA, but I can point out something you should watch for

But if you do, scum can just not do it so ... probably better not to say, and let us figure it out.

In post 754, bji wrote:

In post 753, Creature wrote:I don't do PbPA, but I can point out something you should watch for

But if you do, scum can just not do it so ... probably better not to say, and let us figure it out.

Past can't be changed

like, I expect you atleast to try pushing my scumreads tomorrow rather than just discarding them as townreads/ignore them.

skitter should know I don't explain very well my reads yet my accuracy is usually better than average

In post 756, Creature wrote:like, I expect you atleast to try pushing my scumreads tomorrow rather than just discarding them as townreads/ignore them.

I know how frustrating it is to be mislynched and then have everyone forget/ignore your reads. So I promise that if you flip town I will carry your torch as best I can, as long as it makes sense ...

Cool, do you agree that Reaper's vote on me seems bad and he has been coasting?

In post 759, Creature wrote:Cool, do you agree that Reaper's vote on me seems bad and he has been coasting?

Well now we're getting into an area where I start to worry about being manipulated if you do not flip town.

However, that being said, yes I do, and I thought that before you said it.

It was, in fact, the singular reason that I had to possibly jump off the wagon. But I was just playing odds -- odds that the things I found suspicious about Raya were balanced against odds that Reaper is just coasting and happy to leave his vote on a mislynch while he took care of his IRL stuff.

But then I also had to consider that maybe he didn't think your lynch would ever happen and if he was going to leave his vote parked while taking care of IRL, he might as well leave it on a scum partner for distancing purposes.

In post 741, Creature wrote:ugh, I guess don't lynch bji either
and probably not skitter (even though she did nothing to defend a townread)

I mean i wasnt exactly expecting you to be quickhmmered here

In post 757, Creature wrote:skitter should know I don't explain very well my reads yet my accuracy is usually better than average

^^^ he has good reads, is awful at explaining them

He's town here, scum!him never shows up in twilight like this here

OK so you can just call me Creature's Conscience today.

VOTE: ReaperOfSouls

Skitter did not target me.

In post 767, bji wrote:OK so you can just call me Creature's Conscience today.

VOTE: ReaperOfSouls

Skitter did not target me.

Nah, there are better targets than Reaper.

VOTE: Sashaddin

In post 768, Persivul wrote:

In post 767, bji wrote:OK so you can just call me Creature's Conscience today.

VOTE: ReaperOfSouls

Skitter did not target me.

Nah, there are better targets than Reaper.

VOTE: Sashaddin

Well Creature thought you were town, skitter who was town thought Creature has good town reads, and Creature who skitter thinks has good town reads read you as town in the end despite your quickhammering him.

So ... I'm willing to accept you as town without significant evidence to the contrary.

That being said, why would you go after Sash now?

In post 751, Creature wrote:I'm calling it Garmr/Reaper with a smaller chance of Sash being scum

Like you said about Creature. I'm pretty sure it's not Reaper, so could go with Garmr or Sash. Since a push on Sash was beginning at end of day, she's a better candidate.

In post 770, Persivul wrote:

In post 751, Creature wrote:I'm calling it Garmr/Reaper with a smaller chance of Sash being scum

Like you said about Creature. I'm pretty sure it's not Reaper, so could go with Garmr or Sash. Since a push on Sash was beginning at end of day, she's a better candidate.

Reaper hasn't really done alot to deflect suspicion though. I can see Creature calling Reaper scum because of Reaper's slot on his wagon and his coasting. I can't see why you would, with the same evidence, call Reaper town. So what's the reasoning there?

As I said before, I am not sure my reads on Garmr can be trusted. But soon enough I may have to just start trusting them.

Sash is a 'he' I think.

The player who quickhammered and stopped the push on Sash was you though. So by the logic of 'a push on Sash was beginning at end of day', going after Sash for that reason means you sort of created your own reason for going after Sash. That's odd.

In post 771, bji wrote:That's odd.

That's actually really odd.

UNVOTE: ReaperOfSouls
VOTE: Persivul

I read skitter's ISO. I don't see softing, so probably not killed due to the role. She had me, reaper, and sash as scummy, but wasn't strong about any of her reads. That's another point against sash.

She was probably killed just because she wouldn't be an easy mislynch, but wasn't so towny as to be protected.

In post 770, Persivul wrote:

In post 751, Creature wrote:I'm calling it Garmr/Reaper with a smaller chance of Sash being scum

Like you said about Creature. I'm pretty sure it's not Reaper, so could go with Garmr or Sash. Since a push on Sash was beginning at end of day, she's a better candidate.

No offence but creature called me scum for a while in epic duel mafia when I was town. That being said can you show why my efforts are not solving the game and where I'm focused on getting mislynches? Because that's the reasoning you would be sheeping.

That being said I dislike the position of people being in a rush to sheep creature read an to be creatures conscience it's weird and doesn't have any town motivation. Both bji and Percival are guilty of this somewhat. But bji is somewhat more open about it while Percival is not trying openly portray himself but doing it anyway. I wouldn't do these actions as town or scum because it's poor play. but I don't really see the town motivation behind them while the scum motivation is a excuse to vote someone with out your own reasoning. Bji has his own opinion in there so it's less likely a excuse to vote.

I am going to do some vca and compile my reads before I vote.