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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:11 am
by northsidegal
on what?

buki's thing sounds good

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:14 am
by Buki
Like, not only that

if scum ends up killing the doctors when shooting

the scum that already claimed doctor to avoid the lynch is basically guilted. And not only that, doctors stay out of anyone that claims doctor, so the chance of protecting cop is even higher.

But...the unique exception might be we need to lynch Shoshin/someone today don't matter what they claim.

We don't have lot of time here, and the playerlist isn't active at all...

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:17 am
by Buki
Then like:

They either kill:

the PRs and get guilted

the conf town of that day

gets the kill docced and town gets to have one more conf town (Mechanical solve gets closer)

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:18 am
by Buki
Yeah they can't afford to let doctors alive

but only lynch Wiz in the last moment anyway, they might try WIFOM doc claims.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:20 am
by Buki
Maybe we should even make a system of directing protects better but in day 2 we can talk/think about that

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:20 am
by northsidegal
i'm not sure there's a better system than saying "wiz, protect this player, any other doctors protect that player"

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:22 am
by Buki
In post 755, northsidegal wrote:i'm not sure there's a better system than saying "wiz, protect this player, any other doctors protect that player"
I was thinking about using the playerlist to avoid doctors protecting the same person if Wiz happens to not be a doctor

but not really good ideas of yet

I'll think through the night and see if I come up with anything day 2 if I'm still alive

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:23 am
by RadiantCowbells
There is

Wiz protect (cop target)

Other doctors roll 1dx in x townblock

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:24 am
by Buki
By using directions in the playerlist, only the doctor themselves would know who they would protect, and since everyone has a different position, it might always result in two different protects each night

but like

I've not fully got a good idea yet

later

Now we need to choose who to lynch I guess

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:25 am
by northsidegal
i think it's desirable for doctors to protect the same player if wiz isn't the doctor because, if we believe that the other doctor follows through with the agreed upon target, it essentially counterclaims wiz without any of the doctors actually having to reveal their identities

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:26 am
by Buki
And we afterwards even get to choose, if we don't mechanical mostly solve, who were the scummiest people put in the "cop block" that didn't claim "cop me!" in the end.

Also Cop, don't try to be smart and cop the person that didn't claim. It could reallllyyyyyyyyy fuck things up.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:26 am
by RadiantCowbells
I think keeping valuable players alive is better than sacrificing them for a guilty on someone we should have lynched anyway

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:27 am
by RadiantCowbells
We're not doing this claim thing.
We're just leashing the cop and doccing it

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:28 am
by Buki
In post 762, RadiantCowbells wrote:We're not doing this claim thing.
We're just leashing the cop and doccing it
what do you mean by leashing cop?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:29 am
by RadiantCowbells
We agree that wizard + cop target a player

Silence is presumed inno

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:31 am
by Buki
In post 764, RadiantCowbells wrote:We agree that wizard + cop target a player

Silence is presumed inno
Well

I'm not really against this yeah

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:32 am
by Buki
I wanted something to try to mechanically solve the game but I'm fine with the simple way

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:35 am
by Buki
In that case, if someone ran up to L-1 claims doctor, do we let him alive and coordinate so that the most town read players get protected and scum is forced to either be guilted or to nightkill scummier players or...?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:35 am
by RadiantCowbells
If we run up another doctor claim we speedlynched wizard

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:36 am
by Baezu
How do we pr vent both docs from targeting the same person?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:37 am
by Buki
In post 768, RadiantCowbells wrote:If we run up another doctor claim we speedlynched wizard
come on RC

I'm fine with taking a sub-optimal but simpler way

but that's too much sub-optimal I think.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:38 am
by Buki
In post 769, Baezu wrote:How do we pr vent both docs from targeting the same person?
Without a playerlist scheme, if Wiz isn't a doctor we can't 100% prevent it. But it's improbably tonight, it's still early game.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:38 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 769, Baezu wrote:How do we pr vent both docs from targeting the same person?
We have them roll 1dx

Most possible equity of saves and doesn't give scum a clear target

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:39 am
by Baezu
I’m pretty sure one of wiz/pretentious isn’t a doc, maybe neither of them are

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:40 am
by Baezu
In post 772, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 769, Baezu wrote:How do we pr vent both docs from targeting the same person?
We have them roll 1dx

Most possible equity of saves and doesn't give scum a clear target
Give me your town list, please