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are you guys a headache, though?

In post 750, Flavor Leaf wrote:are you guys a headache, though?

Is any slot?

~ Poison Ivy

Am I not always just a headache?

In post 752, Flavor Leaf wrote:Am I not always just a headache?

Yes

In post 744, Arkham Asylum wrote:Seriously @DEB, you need to stop acting so antitown in your posting. Whatever you are in this game, you’re really not doing yourself any favours. *smdh*

I like the other AA heads am convinced your doc enabler claim is real. I also trust FL town and his read on you but your attitude is hurting helpful reads on you.

What are your current reads/opinions on the players on your wagon? Thanks.

~Harley

I don't know why yall think everything I do is antitown. I thought votes within spoilers don't even get counted?
Anyway, my biggest thought would be on Binary. Despite the tension, I think they are way too aggro to be scum at this point.

I don't necessarily disagree with your read, but some players make their entire personality being aggro as scum.

In post 755, Dannflor wrote:I don't necessarily disagree with your read, but some players make their entire personality being aggro as scum.

Fair but like I feel typically being aggro can be an easy scum tell. I don't think scum would be THAT aggro. They took the time to do the whole SpongeBob meme thing with the random capitalizations. That's something only scum or I would do.

You're absolutely not seeing that
He's scum
It doesn't -sort itself-
and if you're fine lynching scum DEB 3 days from now you should be fine lynching him right now.
Your case for him being town is non-existent
You're just getting snowed by an awful fake claim.
I don't think we're going to win if the attitude you're bringing to the game is "NO WE CAN JUST LYNCH SCUM LATER" the second they fabricate a claim that facilitates that awful line of logic.

-White

Fyter Fest is going to start soon and I need to get ready. I'll be back in a few hours if anything else comes up.
Here's a little something to remember me by while I'm gone:

I also do not see where in the rules it says the dead can keep talking to the living.
If anything, the line "When you are dead, you will continue to effect this game directly, but may no longer post in this thread" seems to EXPLICITLY state that doesn't happen.

-White

I'm hesitant to lynch DEB not because I think he's suddenly going to become easier to read or more townie, but because I'd rather let any potential doctor for sure have their power for at least a night or two

In post 734, Arkham Asylum wrote:

In post 733, Binary Star wrote:And it -does- apply anywhere, AA. Scum can just NOT KILL A SLOT once you've said 'oh well it sorts itself' and then we have to spend a lynch there ANYWAY or if the dude is faking he can just be like "Well obviously scum would rather shoot anywhere but me because they wanna hit the Doc/other PRs'. So, NO, it does NOT SORT ITSELF AT ALL.

When I say sorts itself, I mean "We Lynch him D3 if he's not killed by then". Why would you try to randomly hit a PR when you have a guarantee that you'll neutralize one very important PR?

If scum just NOT KILLS him, great, our doctor's not neutered; plus DEB *can* obvtown by then.

So, YES, IT SORTS ITSELF AND IS A BAD LYNCH.

-The Joker

Let me break it down why this is absolutely incorrect:
I've played plenty of games where the 'we lynch him later' never comes through later. You can't singlehandedly force through a lynch. You have no idea what gamestate will be like come D3. We're still on D1. Focus here and now.
If I'm scum and someone claims doctor enabler, that's not a guarantee to neutralize anything by shooting there. I'd shoot elsewhere because I'd both have a chance of hitting any actual doctors (actually neutralizing 2 roles instead of potentially hitting a BP or otherwise) and because idjits like you would insist you'd just lynch the claimed doc-enabler later anyway, which means I get a free mislynch DOWN THE LINE.
You're taking way too much to be true. There's no doctor to be neutered if he's lying for any reason. If the game is designed around both a doctor and enabler being in the game, then it's surely designed to handle the swing from the enabler beefing it D1 if that's true, so the risk over reward for going with what is otherwise a fine lynch is far more in favor of reward.

You have not made a case for why you think it's agreeable to let a majority scumread slot live solely based on a claim they can not prove. You're letting yourself be manipulated. Don't.

P-EDIT:
So you're letting him manipulate you with his fake claim then?

-White

This is a struggle I don't think you will win, white.

I've given up on it.

~ Poison Ivy

As have I. DEB isn't happening today, though when he starts playing the game we might revisit it.

None of the counter wagons are particularly appealing

Although after rereading Egix I would 100% lynch there if we managed a CFD

I can go elsewhere, even if DEB is scum, there is scum elsewhere too. I recognize the widespread objection to lynching DEB and don't share White's desire to push against the current.
The thing is, the 3 V/LA slots are making this game really difficult. I feel confident there should be scum among them just on POE, too.
I don't support the Chemist wagon. I think he's been townie and he's lynchbait.

-B

I don't support the Chemist wagon either.

I'd be fine with ZZZX but the replacement issue makes it tricky and people have a natural aversion to lynching slots that aren't here

Just fucking pick someone before I pull an Undertale again.

~ Poison Ivy

I did pick someone
Heck, A MAJORITY OF THE PLAYERS PICKED SOMEONE.

-White

In post 769, Binary Star wrote:I did pick someone
Heck, A MAJORITY OF THE PLAYERS PICKED SOMEONE.

-White

VOTE: DEB

Good luck, I'm off to get flayed by my hydra partners.

~ Poison Ivy

wait was that hammer

Not yet, still need one or two more.
And I can say with 100% confidence there's not a doctor enabler in this game.
So feed it rope.

-White

In post 772, Binary Star wrote:Not yet, still need one or two more.
And I can say with 100% confidence there's not a doctor enabler in this game.
So feed it rope.

-White

That’s a bold claim to make in a flipless game

It is, but I believe it. This explains a lot.

VOTE: DEB