Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:38 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:44 am
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:24 am
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:38 am
Still confused a bit by this--these reasons make it sound like pushing Hectic was tactically poor rather than a poor read. If the day were longer and you weren't being scumread for pushing Hectic, would you still be pushing?In post 733, Iconeum wrote:My tunnel on him is gone. I still kinda scumread him for it, but i'm much less sure about it. Let's say I can now see a world where he is actually town. Especially with the short deadline I dont see it as productive to keep pushing a single slip, when there isn't general support for it. I literally can't do or say anything more to push him then I already had.In post 731, Carl Tuckerson wrote:The point is that your read appears to change, and you appear to believe Hectic is town. Is this correct?
What's worse is that I'm being scumread for my push (which happens to me nearly every game). So yeah I don't see much benefit in keeping that up.
What's going on here Gandalf?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:10 am
I had Icon and Menalque as my top scumreads when i was pushed to set out where i was. So I thought it was an opportunity to get some more information from Menalque. We're all guessing at the moment, but leaving my vote on someone who others were unvoting seemed a bit pointless, plus i've called Edguf likely town (although I be interested to hear your scumreads @Edguf) and Hectic prob town (although i'm now undecided on Hectic either way, as i thought he might be town for niaive reasons) and they have their votes here
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:48 am
Masons should probablly claim if they are going to be stranded because otherwise town will shoot them. Forcing the strongman shot is better than having town shoot them.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:51 am
Wow. Iconeum has 76 posts and I don’t think I’ve read a single one of them
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:55 am
#GoodReasonsToVoteIcon
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:04 am
The bolded bothers me because it's such an overtly tactical reason to vote. Like you are just trying to put your vote somewhere that can strand someone instead of voting your suspect.In post 754, Gandalf wrote:I had Icon and Menalque as my top scumreads when i was pushed to set out where i was. So I thought it was an opportunity to get some more information from Menalque. We're all guessing at the moment, butleaving my vote on someone who others were unvoting seemed a bit pointless, plus i've called Edguf likely town (although I be interested to hear your scumreads @Edguf) and Hectic prob town (although i'm now undecided on Hectic either way, as i thought he might be town for niaive reasons) and they have their votes here
Why do you think Menalque is mafia, and how did you intend to get information from Menalque without asking him any questions?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:07 am
VOTE: Tet
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:08 am
VOTE: Gandalf
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:09 am
Willing to go back to Hectic if I have to for the sake of condemning someone to death. But if it has to be anyone, let it be this scumbutt.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:10 am
Don't distract me Oversoul I'm scum hunting.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:12 am
right
jfc, I just reread the whole fucking game
here's the short version: I think icon is scum here
the way he pushed hectic for that "scumslip" which pretty obviously isn't a real scumslip (as pointed out by carl or EP, can't remember who now) as it's a perfectly townie mindset to say "X could be scum but only if they were scum with me -- therefore as I'm not scum they can't be scum" although I'll grant his thing of "only a scumlean" was a bit weird
VOTE: icon
I have a few theories on partners, but here's a readslist:
EP
carl
delta
egduf
Gandalf
hectic
tet
TD
oversoul
FF
MS
icon
I think that with scum!icon MS is a v likely buddy because of the way that MS was pushing the "icon is a counter wagon to hectic" narrative
there was also the fact that their responses to my "solve" were almost identical, which I don't think town would meld on quite so closely. I can see that more coming from a scum PT where it was agreed that they were gonna hard TR each other by end of day
FF is where he is because I thought his presence here was pretty vacant, but mostly because it seemed like his hop off the icon wagon was what really killed it, which fits with saving a buddy who would have been killed by plurality without getting off
oversoul has also been a bit of a non-presence all day, but what has him quite so low was the two soft pushes of others to shoot if they think someone is scum -- which would of course mean they're not barricading and open them up to getting shot. also the repeated blank votes just seemed odd, but I don't know oversoul well enough to know if that's really AI. rubbed me the wrong way though
I have more thoughts, but this is what's important for now in terms of getting scum stranded
right
jfc, I just reread the whole fucking game
here's the short version: I think icon is scum here
the way he pushed hectic for that "scumslip" which pretty obviously isn't a real scumslip (as pointed out by carl or EP, can't remember who now) as it's a perfectly townie mindset to say "X could be scum but only if they were scum with me -- therefore as I'm not scum they can't be scum" although I'll grant his thing of "only a scumlean" was a bit weird
VOTE: icon
I have a few theories on partners, but here's a readslist:
EP
carl
delta
egduf
Gandalf
hectic
tet
TD
oversoul
FF
MS
icon
I think that with scum!icon MS is a v likely buddy because of the way that MS was pushing the "icon is a counter wagon to hectic" narrative
there was also the fact that their responses to my "solve" were almost identical, which I don't think town would meld on quite so closely. I can see that more coming from a scum PT where it was agreed that they were gonna hard TR each other by end of day
FF is where he is because I thought his presence here was pretty vacant, but mostly because it seemed like his hop off the icon wagon was what really killed it, which fits with saving a buddy who would have been killed by plurality without getting off
oversoul has also been a bit of a non-presence all day, but what has him quite so low was the two soft pushes of others to shoot if they think someone is scum -- which would of course mean they're not barricading and open them up to getting shot. also the repeated blank votes just seemed odd, but I don't know oversoul well enough to know if that's really AI. rubbed me the wrong way though
I have more thoughts, but this is what's important for now in terms of getting scum stranded
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:13 am
now, I'm going out to shop for groceries
love of god, don't quick wagon before I get back
love of god, don't quick wagon before I get back
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:27 am
I'm 80+% sure this is town Mena btw. I did a brief meta on him today and this is looking pretty good.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:30 am
I also really like his reads list.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:47 am
Why is everyone in this game scummy. I think it’s weird that Icon hard scum read Hectic but never actually voted him according to VCs. 
I also think his point against Hectic is so bad.
I do like his point about Gandalf though.
I also think his point against Hectic is so bad. I do like his point about Gandalf though.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:47 am
You sure about that?In post 762, Tet wrote:Don't distract me Oversoul I'm scum hunting.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:49 am
I gave my view on Menalque earlier in the game, which, to paraphrase was basically around his early instance Edguf is scum, his reasons for it, and comparing their ISOs at the time. Thank your for your kind compliments in respect of my tactical voting. Im working my way up to attempting to do a post with info in a spoiler, but might leave that until im back homeIn post 758, Carl Tuckerson wrote:The bolded bothers me because it's such an overtly tactical reason to vote. Like you are just trying to put your vote somewhere that can strand someone instead of voting your suspect.In post 754, Gandalf wrote:I had Icon and Menalque as my top scumreads when i was pushed to set out where i was. So I thought it was an opportunity to get some more information from Menalque. We're all guessing at the moment, butleaving my vote on someone who others were unvoting seemed a bit pointless, plus i've called Edguf likely town (although I be interested to hear your scumreads @Edguf) and Hectic prob town (although i'm now undecided on Hectic either way, as i thought he might be town for niaive reasons) and they have their votes here
Why do you think Menalque is mafia, and how did you intend to get information from Menalque without asking him any questions?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:04 am
That's what they keep calling it in this pt at least.In post 768, Oversoul wrote:You sure about that?In post 762, Tet wrote:Don't distract me Oversoul I'm scum hunting.
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:06 am
VOTE: Edguf I would be very interested in your scum reads (and updated town reads) prior to today ending please? I feel i have a few gaps in respect of my understanding of your view on the bigger picture currently
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:10 am
Who was the person pushing tiphaine?
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:11 am
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:25 am
Why did you ask me this given who you are?In post 644, Tet wrote:Menalque are you a late game or early game player? And can this be corroborated through meta?