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In post 747, chamber wrote:

In post 742, theslimer3 wrote:Actually if you relook on the list, Chamber was my closest scum lead to being town

Chamber: With their interactions with Wimpy and gross mental assaults on him, I'm not sure if it's AtE or some sort of aggressive strategy. I've found one of their other games as town but they weren't nearly this aggressive, but at the same time, they didn't have Wimpy in it. I'm saying leaning scum, but I'll admit, more recently

I'm putting him closer to town

Looker was lean scum but I wanted to hear more from him, but he’s said very little in attempts to scumhunt, he just seems to want someone lynched.
I’m guessing you saw the colors and assumed that everyone who was red and green were my concrete solutions and didn’t bother to read them further

I have a pretty big issue with retroactivisms like this. How did we know the words were more relevant than the colors? You gave yourself a lot of room to shift the meaning of things after the fact.

No. I did not go back on what I've said. I've literally stated what I felt, and you chose to pay attention to the colors rather than what I've said. You seem to have a very nasty habit of nit picking something small and trying to make it larger, but I refuse to take responsibility for the fact that you think it's my fault for not having a wider color wheel for my options. And the fact that you're not reading what I'm saying, but rather looking at things on the surface is incredibly counter productive to scumhunting. you've misrepresented me multiple times now and I'm starting to think this isn't an accident.

In post 748, bugspray wrote:?? Why say that

Also why did you go for looker over ddl as your vote?

Because it's the closest thing I have to a Vig kill, and they're always useful on the VI.

I used to be like you. Just played this game to screw around. I deeply regret it and it and it hit me hard when I realized that my shenanigans just ruined the fun of the game for players that I've respected. Ironically when I try to take the game seriously I get my payback by getting a taste of my own medicine. No offence, but there's no way you could understand this, but I hope you will one day, but you're a killjoy and it's annoying. I say this not out of malice, but out of being in your shoes.
Also know that I don't speak for everybody, and in some games it can be fun to be the wild card

In post 751, theslimer3 wrote:No. I did not go back on what I've said. I've literally stated what I felt, and you chose to pay attention to the colors rather than what I've said. You seem to have a very nasty habit of nit picking something small and trying to make it larger, but I refuse to take responsibility for the fact that you think it's my fault for not having a wider color wheel for my options. And the fact that you're not reading what I'm saying, but rather looking at things on the surface is incredibly counter productive to scumhunting. you've misrepresented me multiple times now and I'm starting to think this isn't an accident.

I actually valued your words more than the colours. But I can imagine a world where you decided to vote for me, and when confronted with the words, instead pointed to the colours and said something like "Well of course those words were only in the context of the colours! I still had you as deep orange, you shouldn't be surprised that I'm voting for you!". I'm not accusing you of doing that, only setting up the option to do either.

I think a lot of people find me nitpicky. I think that focusing on the things everyone else pays attention to when scumhunting is fruitless. If everyone know to pay attention to it the scum also know to try and fake it. If they are doing an obviously poor job at faking it fair enough, but I shouldn't have to look very hard too see it then. I put my effort into looking elsewhere. I know this can be annoying when I'm asking a line of questions that seems like it's going nowhere to the person I'm asking them of.

I don't think I've ever misrepresented you. At least not unfairly. There being a scum interpretation of things that I find plausible isn't the same thing as claiming it's the only possible interpretation. It's certainly possible you were just a bit sloppy when coloring things despite using so many different hexcodes. It's one of the reasons I was asking you for past examples and for you to elaborate on your thought process when making it. To be fair.

Saying that I'm not scumhunting because my first 3 posts aren't very serious isn't a nitpick, It's an accusation that wants to lead to a conclusion. You hided that behind just trying to see my behavior, but you still stood by the fact that I wasn't taking my FIRST 3 POSTS OF THE GAME seriously, like it actually is alignment indicative.

Now you're trying to say that I can hide behind colors instead of the words I said. If anything, what I've said has far more to be criticized to it than whatever color pallet I've decided to go with. I've given reasons as to why I chose what I chose, and if you want to argue a hypothetical that I colored them because I wanted hide meaning behind them, then no matter what you say, you're misrepresenting me by nitpicking this.

Also this started with you saying that the way I've said things weren't detailed enough and only a visual account of the game (Which, I'm not sure how someone would typically give reads without doing that) so why haven't you tried following up on that? Also what are your reads? Show me how it's done

In post 753, theslimer3 wrote:Saying that I'm not scumhunting because my first 3 posts aren't very serious isn't a nitpick, It's an accusation that wants to lead to a conclusion. You hided that behind just trying to see my behavior, but you still stood by the fact that I wasn't taking my FIRST 3 POSTS OF THE GAME seriously, like it actually is alignment indicative.

I stand by this being a weak scumtell. It was page 1. I haven't brought it up recently because we've moved passed tells that weak for the most part. Also if you read the exchange between me and wimpy I think I made it more clear what my actual grievance was, which you've continued to .

In post 753, theslimer3 wrote:Now you're trying to say that I can hide behind colors instead of the words I said. If anything, what I've said has far more to be criticized to it than whatever color pallet I've decided to go with. I've given reasons as to why I chose what I chose, and if you want to argue a hypothetical that I colored them because I wanted hide meaning behind them, then no matter what you say, you're misrepresenting me by nitpicking this.

I stand by this just not being a misrepresentation because I'm not claiming anything about what you did? I'm talking about hypothetical motivations behind what you did. If you can call that misrepresenting than ever considering that an unknown!town could be scum would be misrepresenting and I think thats stretching the definition past the point of it being useful.

In post 753, theslimer3 wrote:Also this started with you saying that the way I've said things weren't detailed enough and only a visual account of the game (Which, I'm not sure how someone would typically give reads without doing that) so why haven't you tried following up on that? Also what are your reads? Show me how it's done

I honestly don't know what you are talking about here and I can't imagine myself ever saying this. Its antithetical to the way I play. Can you quote what you are talking about?

In post 730, theslimer3 wrote:that’s why looking into interactions and trying to get into the minds of people is our best shot at finding scum. And the fact that you seem to just be lulling about instead of trying to see who could be scum makes me pretty sure. You’ve had plenty of chances to say something meaningful. And your last post kinda solidifies that you’re not going to scumhunt at all.

And no, I was referring to Bug

I can't look into interactions if I don't make interactions. "Meaningful" is subjective; however, what posts so far have you found meaningful? Do you not see any irony in this situation?

In post 742, theslimer3 wrote:Actually if you relook on the list, Chamber was my closest scum lead to being town

Chamber: With their interactions with Wimpy and gross mental assaults on him, I'm not sure if it's AtE or some sort of aggressive strategy. I've found one of their other games as town but they weren't nearly this aggressive, but at the same time, they didn't have Wimpy in it. I'm saying leaning scum, but I'll admit, more recently

I'm putting him closer to town

Looker was lean scum but I wanted to hear more from him, but he’s said very little in attempts to scumhunt,

he just seems to want someone lynched.

I’m guessing you saw the colors and assumed that everyone who was red and green were my concrete solutions and didn’t bother to read them further

confuses me. Are you saying I'm pushing for quicklynches? Gobbledygook pushed to lynch DDL early; Amrun put you at L-1, but nothing about them? I'd like to clarify what you're accusing me of.

In post 746, theslimer3 wrote:

@Scum: I’d like to reiterate...

This comes off as you trying to alert daytalkless scum since you might not make it to the scum pt tonight.

Are bugspray's shenanigans ruining the game for you?

Can we stop talking about that it's not even whole loaf it's just wifom okay

I think i know what bugspray is doing.

And it isnt going to work.

Happy “DDL Judgement Day”

Im so excited

In post 746, theslimer3 wrote:

@Scum: I’d like to reiterate that bugspray has crumbed cop. Just in case you forgot

If this was true, why the hell would you bold and reiterate it? Wtf?

Yeah exactly it's NOT true

Like even if I was I'm not worried because a smart ic is scarier than a dumb cop so I don't think they will night kill me

In post 760, bugspray wrote:Yeah exactly it's NOT true

In post 761, bugspray wrote:Like even if I was I'm not worried because a smart ic is scarier than a dumb cop so I don't think they will night kill me

You really should learn to hush hush

n.n

Zzzzzz This celebration sucks.

DDL lets a go!

hello lets do this

When you're playing scum what is your main objective.

ok im caught up ama.

In post 766, chamber wrote:When you're playing scum what is your main objective.

is this at me? i dont understand - is it not to win? vote town and prevent myself from being lynched?

In post 768, DrDolittle wrote:vote town and prevent myself from being lynched?

How do you personally go about achieving this. Which do you put more emphasis on?

I am maintaining my townread on slimer. I disagree with some parts his readlist that was advanced in 652, but it's from a town pov. I also think that the frustration in 753 over scum read for 3 posts is town. scum would brush that away for being unimportant - especially since no one else is taking that case of "hello everyone" seriously

pedit chamber: probably the latter? since if you're lynched you can't vote town.

For the record, RR is playing exactly like the town-replacement game that I played with him. Plus I read town on the wimpy slot

hmm

is it bad that i scumread amrun now

actually nvm i misread