i think we'll definitely win this since we have a bodyguard and we have 2 investigative roles
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:44 am
by Micc
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:47 am
by shiki
In post 748, HoldenGolden wrote:PEDIT: Hmm, I ask because on the wiki it says that they have to have access to a PT/outside communications and be able to communicate in it (which by how it was worded there suggests that the PT has to have 2 alive players)
it has to have at some point contained 2 living players, i assume. otherwise players like datisi (who frequently uses a notes pt) would potentially be millers to pt cops.
additionally i am a town 3-shot day vigilante. shiki shoots monkey, madoka and holden. town victorious. i assume the brute force is going to find something similar.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:51 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 750, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i think we'll definitely win this since we have a bodyguard and we have 2 investigative roles
That's exactly why I have an issue with this set up because we also have innocent Child since the neighbors were one scum one town.
That's one clear in a set up where town gets ridiculously overpowered Day 3 since they have 2 Neap checks, an IC, and A PT Cop check assuming all three lives to day 3 and mafia neighbor dies.
Mafia either has have an additionally way to kill claimed roles which IIRC is called a strongman or some way to dodge the Neap checks (Maybe Godfather but I cannot remember if they show red or green to Neap. I know they are green to cops, so I assume they show up as VT to Neap)
PEDIT:
Haha that is a funny joke Shiki.
Spoiler: Mafia if all these claims are true
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:52 am
by Madoka
Datisi no worries.
Shiki what is your avatar and gif at the start of the day from? Also is rocket your main or do you have another?
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:54 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Madoka I feel out of place that everyone knows you and I don't.
Have we played before... by any chance?
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:56 am
by Madoka
I don't believe so, I'm fairly new to the site. And you do know me now!
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:00 am
by humaneatingmonkey
we're all just waiting for you to break the game Datisi, no pressure
so you at this time do not believe the mafia to be madoka or monkey? i think mafia are more likely to be saying an unverified setup is townsided at this point.
In post 754, Madoka wrote:Shiki what is your avatar and gif at the start of the day from? Also is rocket your main or do you have another?
avatar is from kara no kyoukai. gif at the start of the day is from runaway bride. this is now my main for all intents and purposes. team rocket queen was the first account i created but i quickly realized that i should have spent more time in character creation instead of running with the first portmanteau i thought of. when people abbreviated it to trq i pronounced it 'trek' in my head and i did not like this.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:05 am
by shiki
unless you meant at the start of yesterday. that gif is also from kara no kyoukai.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:06 am
by HoldenGolden
Wait are you actually claiming to be the vig role?
And no I have not ruled them out after the two claims from both have come out.
no, if i was the three of you would be dead and town would be victorious.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:35 am
by HoldenGolden
That is what I thought.
Neap + 1 weak invest role + 1 weak protective role + 1 weaker IC
And yes I am questioning the set up proposed because either we trust all the roles and the fact that town has two invest roles. One with the false positives of the other PR roles and the other with the neighbors. A VT check, assuming there is no godfather with a variation to avoid neap, is a god send while no PT association also is a strong check too. Maybe I could see it, but not when there is also a BG there too in the mixture.
I think 4 town PR with more chances to clear by invest is a very unlikely set up and more likely one of Madoka/HEM is lieing
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:38 am
by Madoka
More PRs = weaker neap.
Godfather isn't normal.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:46 am
by Madoka
The last game I played with neighbors, traffic analysts, and neapolitan however, the traffic analyst and one of the neighbors was scum.
I get that, but that is still a very strong set up with you have the BG thrown in too
Well I guess "swingy" is a better term to use
PEDIT:
Do you also suspect Monkey's claim?
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:52 am
by Luca Blight
The TA was a fake claim, he was actually a goon.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:54 am
by Madoka
Ah.
Holden, I'm not sure. I think your play is most suspicious. It feels like cornered scum looking for a way out.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:56 am
by Luca Blight
I agree that Holden feels like scum atm.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:59 am
by GeorgeBailey
Holden was also off-wagon yesterday.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:01 am
by GeorgeBailey
In post 753, HoldenGolden wrote:That's exactly why I have an issue with this set up because we also have innocent Child since the neighbors were one scum one town.
That's one clear in a set up where town gets ridiculously overpowered Day 3 since they have 2 Neap checks, an IC, and A PT Cop check assuming all three lives to day 3 and mafia neighbor dies.
Mafia either has have an additionally way to kill claimed roles which IIRC is called a strongman or some way to dodge the Neap checks (Maybe Godfather but I cannot remember if they show red or green to Neap. I know they are green to cops, so I assume they show up as VT to Neap)
But this is a really decent point, and doesn't really seem like TMI.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:01 am
by humaneatingmonkey
I'm just gonna wait for Datisi because I think all this talk is pointless depending on his play.
I don't think Madoka and George is lying. That entire interaction basically conf-towns them. It was very TvT.
scum is in shiki and Holden. With a very very small chance of Luca.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:03 am
by humaneatingmonkey
if Datisi does not break the game, I'm gonna be very salty
again, no pressure