In post 736, Menalque wrote:is NK choosing between the two scummiest people on each day the best way to avoid executing the tomboy daughter without giving info on their identity?
The only way to avoid executing the tomboy daughter without giving any information away is for NK to randomize something to execute. The more randomness involved, the less information we give away. So if we offer up two and NK randomly picks one, that's twice as good as if we just execute one and pray.
... Except that the one who survived is not going to disappear from people's radars, and the above effect becomes weaker the more times someone survives being on the stand. The net effect is it either screws up our scumhunting by forcing us to treat the scummiest living player as conftown, or it makes us jump through a lot of hoops for a benefit that's not nearly as great as it seems.
Okay, but that person isn’t necessarily always going to still be scummy right? Like, let’s say there are duelling wagons, and we’re fairly sure there’s
a
scum in there but that it’s unlikely both are scum
In that case, if we flipped the scum, the second player would likely be off the concern list the second day while we hunted for partners
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:13 pm
by Menalque
In post 749, Alisae wrote:oh do not underestimate my ability to kill someone
i am very comptent at lynching people i will have u know
I mean, so am I? And I didn’t have a shitfight with bitmap to be used against me
But that’s to neglect the overall point which is that that’s yet another example of my scumgame being good, to the point of fault
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:15 pm
by Alisae
mena i will find u when u rand scum
and i will make sure u lose the game
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:16 pm
by Alisae
do not underestimate my threats or i will shove you under a table
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:16 pm
by Menalque
I’m not saying my scumgame is beyond reproach, I’m saying I’ve won convincingly against strong players on multiple occasions and have been mechguiltied on others
There’s definitely some duds in my history, but those have nearly all been from when I’ve been tired from playing scum games right before them and there is a general trend of people not acknowledging that my scumgame is pretty strong and it’s frustrating
I don’t wanna make this into a metaphorical dick measuring contest of “oh I fooled you” “on no you didn’t” “oh well I could have lynched you” “oh no you couldn’t have”
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:17 pm
by Menalque
It will happen eventually and we’ll see where the cards fall
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:17 pm
by Menalque
I’m betting on me but I guess we’ll find out
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:19 pm
by Menalque
Anyway I’m going offline now because this is getting me weirdly worked up and idk why and I wanna sleep
Sorry for spamming the thread again
@ali I think I was starting to get overly competitive there and idk why, sorry
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:21 pm
by notscience
I got someone lynched for saying some arbitrary phrase and I was a lyncher and I was just like “yeah that phrase is in my role pm and says there’s a scum with That I. Their role pm”
It was a good time.
Pedit
It’s okay my dude we all get that way sometimes
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:38 pm
by FakeGod
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:40 pm
by Umlaut
I confess to not having done much scumhunting, I've been pretty demotivated across the board.
This is mostly a prodge and a plan to try and read critically and get some ideas tomorrow. Still stand by the Titus vote but haven't read.
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:41 pm
by Titus
VLA Until July 10th.
I like both the notscience and Umault wagons. I'll do a more detailed catchup when I can.
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:45 pm
by notscience
Why is norwee scum @hell and minute
Sell me
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:45 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Uncharacteristically of me, i also need to VLA.
VLA to 10th July
I'll be going somewhere with very bad internet reception so i'll try to post if possible, but the connection might not get through. At the very least, i probably won't be so active.
I see that hell reference. You really do work for the devil. Don't you?
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:49 pm
by notscience
Clearly. It’s the alcohol in me I lose my inhibitions and revert to my primal ways
Hail satan
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:49 pm
by notscience
My prior post was in jest pls don’t think I’m rly like that I’m rly not
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:50 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
What's wrong with praising our lord Satan?
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:51 pm
by maxwell
Inspect:Copper
Suddenly feel a lot better about checking there.
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:52 pm
by notscience
I heard he really didn’t beat cell- it was some teenager in a temper tantrum
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:53 pm
by notscience
Why is that rock?
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:25 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 746, maxwell wrote:S_S's intro is meh. I really really really dislike that he put all his effort into talking about mechanics with no commentary on anyone in the game when there's plenty of material to go off.
Hello, nice to meet you! I am sorry that you dislike that.
I caught up on my phone while on a car ride home from a vacation (don't freak out, I wasn't driving). I harbor no illusion about my ability to formulate, remember, and coherently express reads in such conditions (my ability to do so while catching up is dubious in the best of situations).
On the other hand, I can, and will, give detailed mechanical discussion without having a great sense of the game's history. In fact, if anything, this will serve as a jumping off point for engagement going forward. I can't say I'm surprised that you don't like it-- there's usually SOMEONE-- but I can assure you it is both in good faith and for the best.
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:29 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 750, Menalque wrote:Okay, but that person isn’t necessarily always going to still be scummy right? Like, let’s say there are duelling wagons, and we’re fairly sure there’s a scum in there but that it’s unlikely both are scum
In that case, if we flipped the scum, the second player would likely be off the concern list the second day while we hunted for partners
I hold a pretty simplistic view of consensus reads for mechanical purposes, and it assumes that this doesn't happen.
Sure it could happen, but I think it's rare. Bussing is a thing. I don't think it's a significant enough factor to affect my calculation, especially given how subjective it is.
In post 375, Alisae wrote:I actually find that sometimes when I play, my emotions can cloud my gameplay as well sometimes.
What’s the best thing I should do when I’m interacting with you in game and you get angry?
@Username
please answer this.
generally just back off while i disappear for a few days and calm down does the trick
i'm pretty good lately at realizing when i'm about to cross the line and stepping away from the site
well, maybe not pretty good
but you know, fair to middling
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:58 pm
by Iconeum
31 pages over the weekend alrighty catching up over the next hours