Open 788 - Crossfire - Game Over

[Casey]

Right.

[innocentvillager]

I really don’t find the hellbooks slot towny sorry all and the arguments have been meh

Consistency? One game scum meta? zzzzzzz

[innocentvillager]

but okay I snap vote elements if this flips green

If red flip.... probably still vote elements lol but I’ll think about it a bit more

[hellbooks]

so im dead? Yea that sounds about right. I blew chunks this game. but im town babes sorry

[Elements]

THEN VOTE ELEMENTS AND STOP PUTTING US DOWN A LOSING PATH JEEZ

enjoy another green flip then

[innocentvillager]

okay hellbooks scumreads? Townreads? Last words?

[innocentvillager]

If you fail to dunk anyone, you lose the game with 100% certainty.

And you still lose if you give scum the chance to line up dunks in a row. Duh!

What I'm saying is limit your bloody votes to -say- 2 or 3 people that YOU SCUMREAD. Collectively there should always be only 2-3 competing wagons and NO ONE ELSE @ EVEN D-2. That way Scum cannot jump on a wagon causing a dunk that in turn takes out the next person because the dunk threshold has been lowered (this is a more serious problem when we are at an even number). I even explained to you before.

I obviously can't do the calculations because I don't know who scum are and -also- don't know ho they're voting right now, but -in theory- 3 bloody votes is enough if they can coordinate their timing to post in succession and have this game end right after the flip is posted by the mod.

HOWEVER, if hb flips red scum will only have 2 votes and it will become harder for them to do that. Yet again, it's matter of principle for me. I look at the mechanics, I see their vulnerability and I avoid putting myself in a situation where I might be gifting scum the win for no reason but me being lazy and careless, and if you don't want to listen that's on you (unless you are scum yourself, in which case congratulations, because your bus on the 1st wagon has put you in such a situation where everyone is overlooking the fact you were on both mis-dunks (hb must be town if you are scum) AND are also voting the top 2 wagons (myself and Lav) already.

I don’t know if scum!A50 is this adamant about pointing this stuff out I townread this frustration

[Raya36]

Why do you scumread me, Raya?

It's hard to really explain. It's more of a gut read which is why I'm not heavily pushing you. Maybe because you haven't done anything that I read and thought that was really exclusively town of you. I will do an iso and reread of you when I get a chance though. That was just my impression on a first read.

My main thing here is you were quite consistent with your wey push from the start and didn't waver when it was close to time to dunk the slot.

I think it's possible scum could have decided to bus wey for town-cred but I'm not sure how likely that is

[hellbooks]

well 2 be honest my opinions havent really changed since the last time

[hellbooks]

okay FINE i'll read

[hellbooks]

yeah sorry i dont got much

[Marksman]

Okay, Raya. You need to look at the reasons I scumread Wey for and determine whether they were legitimate or fabricated ones for a planned bus.

You said something about page 15 making you put inno down as town, and Marksman down as scum. Could you go into that?

[Marksman]

A50's posting is towny in tone, but I don't like the complete lack of scumreads. You had some before you "reset".

Do you think people like Casey are scum for voting you while not actually scumreading you, or town that are misplaying? I couldn't tell which you were implying from your post.

[Ruby Red]

Votecount 3.Final

Target	Wagon
hellbooks (GOT EM)	Hiraki, Elements, Isis, Chemical Elements, innocentvillager, Raya36, Nono
Almost50 (L-2)	Chemical Elements, Nono, Elements, Raya36, Hiraki
Lavender (L-2)	Chemical Elements, Isis, Elements, Marksman, Hiraki
Raya36 (L-3)	Chemical Elements, Marksman, Casey, hellbooks
Elements (L-3)	Casey, Hiraki, Marksman, Raya36
innocentvillager (L-4)	Lavender, Isis, Nono
Hiraki (L-5)	Marksman, Casey
Casey (L-5)	Isis, Chemical Elements
Nono (L-5)	Hiraki, Raya36
Marksman (L-5)	Hiraki, Raya36
Isis (L-6)	hellbooks
Chemical Elements (L-6)	Hiraki
Not Voting (1)	Almost50

With 12 alive, it's 7 to dunk on someone.
(expired on 2020-08-16 19:18:59) until the Earth floods.

[Ruby Red]

hellbooks WAS DUNKED ON, SHE WAS A

VANILLA TOWNIE

[Ruby Red]

Votecount 4.0

Target	Wagon
Almost50 (L-1)	Chemical Elements, Nono, Elements, Raya36, Hiraki
Lavender (L-1)	Chemical Elements, Isis, Elements, Marksman, Hiraki
Elements (L-2)	Casey, Hiraki, Marksman, Raya36
Raya36 (L-3)	Chemical Elements, Marksman, Casey
innocentvillager (L-3)	Lavender, Isis, Nono
Hiraki (L-4)	Marksman, Casey
Casey (L-4)	Isis, Chemical Elements
Nono (L-4)	Hiraki, Raya36
Marksman (L-4)	Hiraki, Raya36
Chemical Elements (L-5)	Hiraki
Not Voting (2)	Almost50, innocentvillager

With 11 alive, it's 6 to dunk on someone.
(expired on 2020-08-17 07:18:59) until my doomsday device detonates.

Time added.

[Marksman]

Maybe hammering people right as Ruby Red goes to sleep is optimal for getting maximum time to discuss stuff

[Marksman]

@Chemelem - Why are you on all the wagons but your brother?

[Marksman]

I know you said to unvote Lavender, Casey, but I don't see any reason to think she's town.

Actually, I'd prefer a Elem dunk over Lavender dunk because this seems to just be how Lavender plays sometimes, while Ele actually does more as town most of the time (see his recent previous nightless game).

UNVOTE: Lavender

[Hiraki]

Unvote: A50

[innocentvillager]

VOTE: Elements

[Almost50]

Do you think people like Casey are scum for voting you while not actually scumreading you, or town that are misplaying? I couldn't tell which you were implying from your post.

I don't know. I really can't decide on this. Like, I don't see the town motive behind voting someone you don't scumread, but I also can't imagine scum admitting they're voting someone they're not SRing. Also, Casey is "currently" not on me. Chemical is

[innocentvillager]

lets say 3 wagons are at L-1

can someone who's not voting any of them dunk all of them in the same post by voting for all of them? or does just the very first name in the post get dunked

[innocentvillager]

if not id like to point out that days with even number of ppl are more scary than days with odd number of ppl because there's no chain dunking possible in the odd case

unless scum want to gamble and try to camp Ruby's flip to quickhammer the next L-1 right after on an odd day (or the L-2 that becomes L-1 if it's an even day)

[Almost50]

Should I hammer? Would you all be happy if we had this dunk so soon? FTR, Elements is a suspect for me (but I'm not confident enough). I will remind you all why:

I think A50 is town

also why are people voting a50 so readily?

UNVOTE: marksman
VOTE: lavander
VOTE: a50

This sequence of posts doesn't make sense.

But I'm not confident because I have yet to see Elements make sense in a game I played with him. I don't want to be forced to look them up, but I think i played 2 or 3 games with him, and he got mis-eliminated on D1 in one for his weirdness, and was 3P (SK) and really misplayed it in another (or maybe I am biased because I was scum and he lost us the game and still didn't win it himself, but I seem to recall his cover was blown really early). Can't remember if there was a 3rd or not.