Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:42 pm
Oh, I see this is a beeboy vote where you flip them and then sort them afterward.
Why
This is what is called a trust tellIn post 596, tea leaves wrote:Yes I would admit I'm scum and hope everyone thought I was joking because townies claim scum sometimes.
Okay the solving posts are good but stuff like this is HRRRMIn post 623, tea leaves wrote:No this is town spew because I'm explaining everything without a filter and everyone else will townread this you'll see.
In post 670, Farren wrote:If you take an axe and bisect an arsonist, you don't get a talking head. You get a bloody mess.
Fortunately, blood make good fertilizer.
This exchange is comedy goldIn post 671, Isis wrote:I think you're being rather optimistic about how articulate a tree is, before or after it is chopped
I was just joking!In post 759, Gamma Emerald wrote:This is what is called a trust tellIn post 596, tea leaves wrote:Yes I would admit I'm scum and hope everyone thought I was joking because townies claim scum sometimes.
Don’t do this.
Well shoot, I’ve had this pet theory that one but not both of GL/tea was scum, but now both of them have posted things that make me question that idea (this is why I wasn’t voting btw)In post 698, GuiltyLion wrote:I did answer it in 104, Gamma acknowledged this in his next postIn post 683, Ydrasse wrote:@farren: :> i was just reading over that and noticed that gl didn't actually reply to that as far as i can see?
i think that gamma being resistant of accepting the townread/actively pushing against gl is townier than gl offering the tr and rolling with it/affirming it.
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here's a question for both you and Farren regarding my Gamma TR - why would scum!me give a freebie townread on Gamma specifically? What do you think is my angle here? When I rolled scum in the first roll of this setup, I specifically named him in the mafia PT (dunno if Farren/MT saw those posts tho) as someone I thought we may be able to plausibly push/eliminate. He's not someone who is generally universally townread or a town leader, I've historically mistakenly scumread him in several prior games, and this game so far isn't really an exception to his normal style IMO.
however, he has done something I actually see as quite town-indicative this game - he claimed an early strong townread on a questionable slot while it was under scrutiny from a well-known aggressive/influential player in Menalque. I hardly see this come from scum - if town!Ydrasse, he's cutting off avenues to vote her later for no real gain in terms of towncred, and risks town spewing her on his flip. I also doubt he'd do it if they were partnered, the vast majority of scum players are too scared to defend their buddy from early game suspicion in that manner.
The only agenda I couldmaybesee as scum-serving is if he's partnered with exactly Menalque and they were using Ydrasse as a wedge topic to casually distance from each other without actually pushing each other directly, but that like actively requires me to don the tinfoil.
There's also the execution of the post/read, he didn't bother to give a real explanation nor did he try to double down on it when he received blowback, it strikes me as a fundamentally genuine thought with no agenda or scum motivation. That's solid grounds for a D1 townread, and I haven't seen himdoanything to make me want to go back and re-evaluate, as I said yesterday.
so winding back - if I'm scum and Gamma's town, why would I go through the effort of fake TRing him, especially since you don't see this as S-S? Would Gamma really be a necessary pocket for me here? If I were scum I don't think I'd even need to bring a read on him to the table at that point, it was literally the first read I gave and I could have likely dressed up a read on almost anybody else if I wanted to.
I can understandnot agreeingwith my read here, but I can't grok how you see scum!agenda in it, Gamma's not under threat of elimination and he'd be very low on the list of slots I feel I need to buddy or to play around if I were scum.
I’d have to reflect on whether I do this while playing mafia, but in general irl situations I tend to self-narrate my thought process whenever I make an interesting connection to try and walk people through how my mind works, so maybe that’s a reason some people would do it as a NAI thingIn post 735, Bell wrote:Self-narration is when a player trys to construct an accounting of their own internal experience.
Perhaps said differently, it's when a player thinks out loud to get into their town character. The issue is right there in the wording, they don't need to type out their internal reasoning unprompted unless someone asks because they're town already. But a scum player that needs to fake the perspective of a town player might write something like that.
This at least puts my original reason to TR tea into a framework where it makes sense for them to be scum, so that helpsIn post 765, Isis wrote:tea is very self conscious about their appearance. They're very eager to present reads but then say they're not confident about the reads, demonstrating acting out of compulsion rather than conviction.
I still think the pred was scummy, also.
the townread on me seems like placating tmi bs, I don't think I've spewed my alignment that much this game