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In post 742, NorwegianboyEE wrote:someone asked you why you unvoted, before suddenly claiming Facebones is town and i am scum. It was such an awkward progression i'm having an hard time seeing it as town vs just scum.

In post 714, Rockhopper wrote:

In post 710, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 706, Rockhopper wrote:I know I can't case norwe and actually push an elim on him
But I reaaallly feel like he's scum

Because? Get your thoughts out before cabd locks the thread.

Facebones is town

In post 352, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 325, Rockhopper wrote:

In post 318, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 317, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:I was definitely hoping that people would be able to sense what was happening without me having to explicitly say it.

You saying you're happy being the D1 elim certainly didn't soft pr to me. If anything, it was a VT soft which is what I was talking about when I said it was negative utility for us to move off of you.

I dont think I buy it. This isn't a town pr play to basically soft vt and then to recalibrate. A town pr doesn't say they're comfortable being the D1 elim. This was a scum gambit that didn't work and so you rethought it. I mean you set us up to be scattering at EoD. You said you're comfortable being the elim, but to wait until 24 hours before forcing a claim. You knew you gonna claim a pr so it was going to be a last minute redirected wagon that gives scum maximum control. And you tried to push it to Italiano who I think is town here which also fits with a scum agenda.

VOTE: Norfolk

I dont buy the claim. I think this is survivalist.

I may be wrong but isn't it best to eliminate somewhere else if there's no counterclaim? This is a convincing case though.

Spoiler: Norfolk

In post 239, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:Rocky, Dunnstral and Italiano - if i'm scum, who is my scumbuddy?

In post 245, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:

In post 244, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 239, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:Rocky, Dunnstral and Italiano - if i'm scum, who is my scumbuddy?

I don’t partner hunt, but you can tell

us

.

Don't be weak. See it through - name a name.

In post 249, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:

In post 246, ItalianoVD wrote:It’s not weak. I don’t partner hunt.

Town don't dodge questions and if you're town, you need to find 2 scum.

So, go on - who are you currently reading for scum role 2?

In post 261, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:

In post 239, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:Rocky, Dunnstral and Italiano - if i'm scum, who is my scumbuddy?

2 of 3 have posted since this and the other is Dunnstral who is a part timer.

Somebody must be bold enough to share their latest reads on who is scum 2 if i'm scum 1, even if it's a 'gut read'.

In post 262, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:Also, I have no problem with being eliminated, but lets be sensible and give it another calendar day or 2 before we go through the E1 process.

In post 275, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:I like Billy P. He's like a bear sniffing around for trout.

Also, thanks for answering, padwag. But it's Dunnstral, Rockhopper and Italiano that should be answering. Their silence is well worth noting down.

Simply put, his behaviour here is quite different from that in his previous scum games. I feel like challenging the voters with such confidence to name the second scum is genuine town frustration since this was neither his reaction to his wagons in those games nor a method he implemented to scumhunt as scum. There's also a difference in the level of analysis which could probably be a result of rolling town for the first time.

I fully agree with your case on his claim and I'll prolly vote for him if there's a cc, but this was my read when I unvoted.

Yeah it is not good to continue pushing Norfolk. I think the points made against MiniMegabyte by wiyvern and Norfolk are good enough for a bote:

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

In post 377, MiniMegabyte wrote:

Current Reads List (Updated since my most recent posts)

Spoiler:

Town

Norfolk

(Non-CC Claim Tracker)

Billy

(AT the beginning it was a bit strange that they had their votes everywhere but as they got further into the game they are probably one of the few people that I know of actually giving the game a kick forward. I see this by them asking a lot of questions and attempting to engage others.)

Facebones

(Asks a lot of questions and tries to get the game moving. Again one of the few people to do so and just seems townie atm)

Rockhopper

(Makes a lot of comments and asks people to gain information through reactions and this to me seems like a pretty townie move along with their post of the unlikely pairings from what they think. It seems as though they arent afraid of sharing thoughts which is pretty townie in my eyes)

Null

Backslash

(Very few posts but there is two of them that really contradict each other one of the posts being the answers to Italiano's RQS 46 and 116 - Though this could just be the truth but to me their answer to question 3 really contradicts their next post after that. While they are contradicting I do think that post 169 is a townie post as they are throwing their thoughts out there. This is why they are null for now because i am just not sure.)

Italiano

(I dont really know what to think about them something seems weird to me but I cant really explain it. Its bad I know i am going to do a full ISO dive on them to see if anything can give me some real direction)

Wiyvern

(Not many posts so really cant get anything from what they have said apart from their read list and its not really somethign i would like to go off of at this point but it is good they shared their reads with everyone.)

Scum

Dunnstral

(Very few posts and barely any content. Now this is going to seem very OMGUS but really look at their ISO they vote Norfolk outta gut-which isnt too bad- and then unvotes Norfolk because of no CC which is fair. However they dont give any reason as to why they vote me apart from the points made from two other players are "good enough for a vote". These are the only content points and one of them is sheeped)

Based on this read list i am going to put my vote here

VOTE: Dunnstral

In post 592, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Are you protecting your buddy Facebones? You seem very concerned about my influence.

In post 598, Facebones wrote:

In post 336, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I'm townreading Italiano, so im not going there.

In post 434, ItalianoVD wrote:Happy you’re here man.

In post 553, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Italiano isn't happening.

In post 271, ItalianoVD wrote:All this unvoting is bothersome. Why do it? Especially with no explanation. Let’s put him back at E-2.

VOTE: Norfolk Boy1

In post 318, Billy Pilgrim wrote:VOTE: Norfolk

In post 423, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: Wiyvern

In post 433, ItalianoVD wrote:Yeah let’s get on this

VOTE: Wiyvern

This caught my attention.

In post 594, NorwegianboyEE wrote:A town that’s not united is a town that’s going to lose.

A town united under the influence of a scum leader is a town that's going to lose.



Make up your own minds.

Vote: NorwegianboyEE

In post 651, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I agree with your logic Mini.

But do you think we should look at Facebones tommorow regardless of what Wiyvern flips?

What do you make of their defence on Wiyvern today?

In post 449, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 446, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:When looking at the E1 wagon that formed on me, do any of the people on that wagon ping you as scum?

Honestly, no.
Italiano is a townread.

Mini i could see being town.

Dunnstrall is a weaker read and i'd like to interact with them more, but i don't scumread them.

In post 702, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Rock, u think i’m scum but encourage hammer on Facebones?
UNVOTE:

Pedit:
God damn it.

In post 707, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I wanted to hear more about what Rocks reads acyually are before the hammer. But too late now.

In post 749, Rockhopper wrote:

In post 748, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 733, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 731, ItalianoVD wrote:Hmm. Interesting results. Don’t know where I’m going right now. I’ll be back later to see what I can find from vca.

I didn't know you were the VCA type.
How accurate do you tend to be might i ask?

Ive been doing vca for years, but didn’t know it was called that until I came here. It’s done a little different here, but the concepts are the same. I’m fairly accurate, but it does make it a lot easier when you flip scum.

This is actually pretty interesting. What are your vca reads?

In post 756, ItalianoVD wrote:Rockhopper/Norwegian is a possible partner distancing play that we can’t just overlook imo

In post 761, ItalianoVD wrote:Bakslash is a scum partner in every scenario.

In post 748, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 733, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 731, ItalianoVD wrote:Hmm. Interesting results. Don’t know where I’m going right now. I’ll be back later to see what I can find from vca.

I didn't know you were the VCA type.
How accurate do you tend to be might i ask?

Ive been doing vca for years, but didn’t know it was called that until I came here. It’s done a little different here, but the concepts are the same. I’m fairly accurate, but it does make it a lot easier when you flip scum.

In post 756, ItalianoVD wrote:Dunn hammered. Scum usually don’t like hammering, especially on a townie. Dunn is town.

In post 762, Rockhopper wrote:The rolecop wouldn't have to use their ability since both the PRs have been exposed

In post 761, ItalianoVD wrote:If Norwegian is scum, Norway tracked him nowhere, which means his partner did the kill. He also wouldn’t be the rolecop. Bakslash is a scum partner in every scenario.

In post 772, MiniMegabyte wrote:That could actually be a thing because from what I have skimmed there has been little to almost no interaction between them