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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:54 am
by Reformed Toxic Player
i think my reread made me realize there was more towny content and i was just seeing red
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:56 am
by Battle Mage
In post 747, Elements wrote: In post 741, Battle Mage wrote: In post 736, Elements wrote:my voting has been less jumpy than my normal town play this game I think
what do you mean? so you're actually not playing to your town-meta here?
My town game is much more reactionary and erratic than my scum game. That is why at one point I went 5 games in a row as town being a day 1 lim. Or something along those lines. I ain't fussed about people scumming me so I just do. Hence my vote generally bouncing around.
As scum I'm much more self-conscious of how other people see my posting. Hence putting more effort into them.
I'd argue your play here much more closely resembles your depiction of your scum-meta than your town-meta. One might suggest you put in lots of effort early, until you realised you could get away with less.
But I like that you didn't shy away from speaking to me in real time - scum can be hesitant to do so, especially if they are self-conscious about making errors.
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:58 am
by Elements
I rlly need to have another completed scum game
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:59 am
by Battle Mage
there is a distinct lack of progression in RLotus' ISO. Started with townreads on RTP and Duchess...and they remain the top 2 townreads. and has been only really focussed on Italiano since a few days ago.
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:00 am
by Battle Mage
what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:01 am
by Elements
In post 754, Battle Mage wrote:
what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?
I feel like you should've asked me before giving your own opinions
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:02 am
by Battle Mage
In post 755, Elements wrote: In post 754, Battle Mage wrote:
what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?
I feel like you should've asked me before giving your own opinions
why?
and i'll ask again for your opinion?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:06 am
by Elements
so I don't just piggy back of yours
and i'll ask again for your opinion?
I was reading through and I see exactly what you mean. It's very consistent on every read. Even the post I gave town points to as a good take falls nicely into the rest of the reads with italiano and duchess
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:07 am
by VP Baltar
In post 753, Battle Mage wrote:there is a distinct lack of progression in RLotus' ISO. Started with townreads on RTP and Duchess...and they remain the top 2 townreads. and has been only really focussed on Italiano since a few days ago.
I have been thinking this as well. It is very one dimensional.
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:09 am
by Elements
I scrolled through RL's iso with his readlist open in another tab, and no expressed read is different before or after said list.
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:15 am
by Battle Mage
i think it's fairly a-typical of RLotus - in our last game, his reads fluctuated much more as town.
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:16 am
by RLotus
Yeah I mean my nulls haven’t done anything to warrant movement. Harumi and testa fell off the face of the earth, dunn and elements lurks as usual.
I will say i did waiver on my andre townlean, because reading testarossa town is absurd to me, but I liked his explanation on how he goes about day 1s, felt towny.
And yeah I’m pretty much fixated on Italiano for now
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:19 am
by Battle Mage
i can confirm testarossa was town though, so that's something
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:20 am
by RLotus
I don’t think he should have been able to deduce that from her like 3 posts
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:21 am
by Battle Mage
In post 681, Battle Mage wrote: In post 454, ItalianoVD wrote:Re:
451 &
452
Well, you know, it might be better to vote me out then cause it's apparent I'm not gonna be of help to the town. I've been lazy man. All that stuff I do as town, I just didn't/don't feel like doing it this game, especially on Day 1. I don't know why, I just don't. Slots have been pinging me, but I just don't really feel like going in depth with it, hoping that gutreads would be enough. I know that's bad and not helpful, however, information can still be gleaned from my flip.
Another thing is I feel like everything I do and say is getting scumread and everything I answer is not good enough
, and it feels like I'm just digging my grave deeper and deeper the more I post and interact. It's part of the game so it's cool, but it's also exhausting. If/when I do get to E1, I definitely won't hammer. I'm not gonna cutoff the discussion like that. And I'm not scum, I'm just bad townie this game.
definitely feel the emotion here. happy to assume Italiano is locktown - I think Italiano-scum has more self-respect than to run this as a gambit.
RLotus - can you explain Italiano posting this as scum?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:33 am
by Reformed Toxic Player
i think italiano is v towny here
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:37 am
by RLotus
In post 764, Battle Mage wrote: In post 681, Battle Mage wrote: In post 454, ItalianoVD wrote:Re:
451 &
452
Well, you know, it might be better to vote me out then cause it's apparent I'm not gonna be of help to the town. I've been lazy man. All that stuff I do as town, I just didn't/don't feel like doing it this game, especially on Day 1. I don't know why, I just don't. Slots have been pinging me, but I just don't really feel like going in depth with it, hoping that gutreads would be enough. I know that's bad and not helpful, however, information can still be gleaned from my flip.
Another thing is I feel like everything I do and say is getting scumread and everything I answer is not good enough
, and it feels like I'm just digging my grave deeper and deeper the more I post and interact. It's part of the game so it's cool, but it's also exhausting. If/when I do get to E1, I definitely won't hammer. I'm not gonna cutoff the discussion like that. And I'm not scum, I'm just bad townie this game.
definitely feel the emotion here. happy to assume Italiano is locktown - I think Italiano-scum has more self-respect than to run this as a gambit.
RLotus - can you explain Italiano posting this as scum?
It doesn't make a lot of sense for him to do this as town. Like, why doesn't he say yeah you're right about my meta but I'm town. He's trying to explain away why he hasn't been solvy and lacks his usual town fire, while also trying to
survive
with AtE (which I've noticed you tend to be susceptible to). No backbone that I normally see from him when he's town. He's just rolling over and dying.
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:39 am
by Battle Mage
hmmmmm
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:41 am
by RLotus
Defeatism isn't towny. Yall are letting him off way too easily. At most that post should be NAI.
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:45 am
by Battle Mage
i know what you're saying, but when I read it, I see it differently. I just finished a game with Italiano-scum and he is more of a leader than he used to be - I don't think Italiano-scum rolls over quite like that. You're right that I'm great at reading AtE.
my main worry with him is that he's not here. where is he??
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:45 am
by RLotus
The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:47 am
by Reformed Toxic Player
In post 770, RLotus wrote:The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.
I think its a fact ur seeing red. Wanna walk through why you scumread them?
Being wrong is also a reason one might have a resisted wagon.
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:48 am
by Reformed Toxic Player
Do you townread GC btw -rllotus?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:50 am
by Battle Mage
In post 770, RLotus wrote:The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.
i mean most of the talk is about how he's town, so would you really expect a wagon to build regardless of his alignment?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:50 am
by RLotus
Slightly for his questioning and gamesolvyness