Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:33 am
no I'll wait until tomorrow
if I die I die
if I die I die
You got to that quickly for just showing up to this cop claim.In post 751, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:stop with this illusion that this setup is anything except C1. leaven's 100% dying tonight
the james nightkill makes absolutely zero sense if it's not C1. you can't PR read that guy
Got here fifteen minutes ago.
weird post to makeIn post 753, Ythan wrote:You got to that quickly for just showing up to this cop claim.In post 751, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:stop with this illusion that this setup is anything except C1. leaven's 100% dying tonight
the james nightkill makes absolutely zero sense if it's not C1. you can't PR read that guy
Seems like a scummy way to spend fifteen minutes of scramble time.In post 756, Dannflor wrote:weird post to makeIn post 753, Ythan wrote:You got to that quickly for just showing up to this cop claim.In post 751, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:stop with this illusion that this setup is anything except C1. leaven's 100% dying tonight
the james nightkill makes absolutely zero sense if it's not C1. you can't PR read that guy
why would you not get to this quickly
wait im stupid james wasnt ngihtkilled that game LOL they were condemned d1In post 754, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:small thing to chew on:
strange was in my first newbie game, rolled scum. nightkilled james because they thought that the way they acted was PR attempting to hide, flipped VT. does strange do it again in this game knowing that james is probably just a lolvillager again?
Maybe I'm being a big dummy, but I don't see how that follows at all.In post 751, cowsloveSushirolls wrote: the james nightkill makes absolutely zero sense if it's not C1. you can't PR read that guy
i mean i could talk about pairs and shit but that 15 minutes of scramble time was spent with the impression that thread could close any minute so i went with the information that is almost guaranteed and repeated it againIn post 758, Ythan wrote:Seems like a scummy way to spend fifteen minutes of scramble time.
How much of that was spent thinking about James's chances of being a PR?In post 761, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:i mean i could talk about pairs and shit but that 15 minutes of scramble time was spent with the impression that thread could close any minute so i went with the information that is almost guaranteed and repeated it againIn post 758, Ythan wrote:Seems like a scummy way to spend fifteen minutes of scramble time.
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i think as mafia you always take shots at PRs because they're extremely powerful for no reason lolIn post 760, Val89 wrote:Maybe I'm being a big dummy, but I don't see how that follows at all.In post 751, cowsloveSushirolls wrote: the james nightkill makes absolutely zero sense if it's not C1. you can't PR read that guy
like, 20 seconds? it was a post i made earlier that i rememberedIn post 762, Ythan wrote:How much of that was spent thinking about James's chances of being a PR?
In post 549, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:gun-to-head i just vote gamma here
ythan had reasons to vote salsabil that wereactuallythings she did in the game (salsa was continuously misrepresenting ythan while fillerposting) which by default is pretty damn town.
--i'm really feeling that this quote also applies the opposite wayIn post 447, JamesTheNames wrote:As far as I'm concerned, if your sole argument is "Look. Meta." as to why you're town, you aren't town.
the case for salsa provided by gamma was a lot more vague than i wanted, then he drops a whole bunch of good reasons to vote salsa post-elim despite wanting to focus on improving his slot's credibility
(which i think having a logical, consistent and transparent thought process IIT would help with a lot)
now that salsa has flipped blue i think these two logs look really badIn post 446, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why?In post 312, JamesTheNames wrote:This is scummy.In post 306, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 295, Leaven wrote:So if Salsa, Leaven, and James all flip town this game. What are the takeaways.
- With Salsa, scum can freely do anti-town things and even be town-bucketed for it. Furthermore, if people vote that scummy behavior, they will actually be scum-bucketed for it.
- With myself, scum will know they can't easily get away with anti-town things.
What advantage does town get (now or in the future) from laying a red carpet down for scum to freely behave against the interest of town? I'm happy to create an environment that discourages anti-town behavior.
If James was randomly 25% Scum, 25% PR, 50% VT, now I have him at 30% Scum, 5% PR, 65% VT. Still overwhelmingly likely to be VT, but as I've said previously, outside of a better option (which we likely will have in 5 days), my vote lands there.Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnngggggggg
If you have time, check my meta, will see how townie I am all the time
I kinda think it is too, but I don’t think it’s gonna be the same logic as yours.==In post 449, Gamma Emerald wrote:Impressive. It’s not what my logic is, but it definitely blows mine out of the water.In post 447, JamesTheNames wrote:As far as I'm concerned, if your sole argument is "Look. Meta." as to why you're town, you aren't town.
I was thinking the sheer amount of time Salsa was calling stuff “boring” was scummy
Which has a merit to it I think, but the last time I saw someone do the “I’m town because this is my town game” thing they were scum, and someone actually whipped out this exact same point against them
there's a surprising lack of "i would've stopped the wagon if i were here" which is kinda ???
i absolutely did not think the case on salsa was developed well enough to warrant axing, but of course i will admit that a hole was being dug by her so i will not explicitly blame anyone for being a part of that wagon
since the james kill is a thing i'm assuming that it was a kill to minimize info since after a while of discussion around theory and mechanics they were just Townbinned
the scary part is that they thought it would be better than hunting PRs. double goon setup?
locktown:
james
salsa
town:
leaven
ythan
null:
dannflor (null-town)
strangematter (null-scum)
scum:
val, gamma(but i'm not saying this is the pair)
i haven't done a mass ISO/reread yet but i bet there's gonna be a ton of interest if i'm totally off the mark according to you guys here
We didn't know anything about the setup until the claim. I think he put the pieces together quickly.In post 764, Dannflor wrote:... why would you not just already know that based off of playing day one ythan
Oh okay cool.In post 766, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:like, 20 seconds? it was a post i made earlier that i remembered
i mean i'm just proven wrong at d3 and the game goes on, hahaIn post 768, Val89 wrote:I'll be honest, I think CSLR just said something rather silly, in that we have to be in C1, and Dannflor just jumped on it in an "huh, that's obvious" kinda way to perpetuate that mis-idea.
I think if you think about it a bit more, you will see why the James NK tells us nothing about the number of PRs.
In the world we are in colloum C, scum would also have to take into account there might be a JK, and on n1, the 'universal townread' might not be the best target.In post 772, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:"james was NKed not because of the possibility that they were a PR that claimed VT d1, but because they were universally townread by the end of d1."
Scum already know the setup, 100 percent, C1 or not.In post 771, Dannflor wrote:every post you make about the setup gives scum more information in the case that it's not c1