open 826; trist fall (over)

[inutile]

thankyou for moderating

[DkKoba]

alright well don't be surprised when nothing comes out of your report.

take it as a lesson that people have different points of view of what is "optimal" or "good play" - and that if you disagree that doesn't make them mafia, ok?

because that's the big lesson you should be taking from this - that you shouldn't project yourself on others

[Faker]

It's a factor of this setup. To get mechanical information, you have to take the chance on someone being scum. We might have benefited from taking longer to make Infinity nervous (or just slow rolling the conftowns so that we could parse what that meant etc.), but it's overall not a bad strategy.

Trusting Enchant was just legitimately a good move.

Even in a world where trusting 3 different people is a valid strategy, doing it within an hour of replace in was blatantly griefing.

[Faker]

alright well don't be surprised when nothing comes out of your report.

take it as a lesson that people have different points of view of what is "optimal" or "good play" - and that if you disagree that doesn't make them mafia, ok?

because that's the big lesson you should be taking from this - that you shouldn't project yourself on others

Agreed, and sayonara.

[DkKoba]

It's a factor of this setup. To get mechanical information, you have to take the chance on someone being scum. We might have benefited from taking longer to make Infinity nervous (or just slow rolling the conftowns so that we could parse what that meant etc.), but it's overall not a bad strategy.

Trusting Enchant was just legitimately a good move.

yeah I actually wanted to only do enchant and then i was like .. hm what if i do *3* and then it ended up being stupid lol.


go big or go home!!

[Faker]

thankyou for moderating

Thanks tris!

[the worst]

It's a factor of this setup. To get mechanical information, you have to take the chance on someone being scum. We might have benefited from taking longer to make Infinity nervous (or just slow rolling the conftowns so that we could parse what that meant etc.), but it's overall not a bad strategy.

Trusting Enchant was just legitimately a good move.

Even in a world where trusting 3 different people is a valid strategy, doing it within an hour of replace in was blatantly griefing.

It's definitely not my style (you might have noticed, I'm kind of slow paced these days ), but definitely falls in the realm of personality and playstyle differences.

It's defensible, but I also think it's totally fair if you'd rather not expose yourself to it.

[the worst]

thankyou for moderating

Thanks tris!

agreed - thank you tris! Sorry about your untimely nap

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thanks Tris! : )

[Faker]

I'll agree to disagree and leave litigating it to the proper forum for it. I can't in good faith tell Koba not to respond to me if I'm publicly posting about it as well.

[DkKoba]

thank you tris!

[Pavowski]

Weird playing this mechanic after popcorn, traded a setup where players have virtually no agency for one where any player can blow the game at any time. Wild

Still, GG. I might we'll have trusted Infy D1 if koba hadn't stolen my quicktrust thunder

And thanks Tris!

[DkKoba]

I'll agree to disagree and leave litigating it to the proper forum for it. I can't in good faith tell Koba not to respond to me if I'm publicly posting about it as well.

look dude - I was a moderator for Epicmafia near the tail end of its lifecycle, moderating gamethrow was part of it.

I saw some batshit insane stupid plays that flopped horribly.(think what i did in this game but like 10x worse)

But the person doing them was trying to use it to win.

Ergo - not gamethrow, as long as it isn't a pattern.



yes we use the word "throwing" to describe people doing bad plays, but from a rules perspective, gamethrow has and always should be defined as intentionally playing against wincon. For some that can include intentionally making a move that will guarantee a negative outcome that is severe, such as shooting outside of clears when that would put the number of clears at majority(which is autowin) - but overall, unorthodox plays will never, and should never, be classed as gamethrow.

[DkKoba]

Weird playing this mechanic after popcorn, traded a setup where players have virtually no agency for one where any player can blow the game at any time. Wild

Still, GG. I might we'll have trusted Infy D1 if koba hadn't stolen my quicktrust thunder

And thanks Tris!

I knew i could find you as town at least after our mini normal <3 once i truly figure out a "LHF" player, I gain >rand accuracy on them poggies

[Infinity 324]

koba you can obviously do whatever you think will help your team win in a mafia game but like, don't be surprised if people get upset when you end the day really early and they wanted to play more

[Faker]

I wish you the best regardless of the outcome of the report.

[DkKoba]

I wish you the best regardless of the outcome of the report.

Feel free to report anything you find breaks the rules, just don't be surprised that playing the game is not considered against the rules.

[Pavowski]

Weird playing this mechanic after popcorn, traded a setup where players have virtually no agency for one where any player can blow the game at any time. Wild

Still, GG. I might we'll have trusted Infy D1 if koba hadn't stolen my quicktrust thunder

And thanks Tris!

I knew i could find you as town at least after our mini normal <3 once i truly figure out a "LHF" player, I gain >rand accuracy on them poggies

I wasn't gonna mention that game but I remembered you were psycho from that one lol

[Thor Ragnarok]

Thanks tris!

This was... a game. I'm marking this one down in the only recall while drunk category in my archive

[skitter30]

Dont think eithed koba or faker were a throw but k strongly disagree with both

Thanks tris

[Faker]

While I've tried to deal with losing with grace and humor, I am livid with myself. I'm sorry for coming up so short. I will keep trying to do better.

[Faker]

While I have never, and do not intend, to take it out on anything physical, this is the most frustrated I have been with a game in year and the feeling is what I imagine runs through the mind of people that break a hand punching a wall.

[skitter30]

Faker you're a cool dude and i liked your analysis and i hope to play with u again sometime

[the worst]

I feel you. There's two factors to it, I think.
firstly: in an ideal world, this

could

have played out differently. if we had more time, maybe possibly perhaps we

might

not have gotten absolutely steamrolled.
secondly: we got absolutely steamrolled.

credit to Inf and Meg, their approaches to the game were strong and we weren't sharp enough to anticipate that they were scum approaches. just well played.
learning from losses is really healthy though. you're a cool player, and it's neat that you're learning. i learned a bit even just from my first-impression reads of people while i was in the game.

pedit: +1 skitter as always

[Pavowski]

While I have never, and do not intend, to take it out on anything physical, this is the most frustrated I have been with a game in year and the feeling is what I imagine runs through the mind of people that break a hand punching a wall.

It's a game, man. Take a breath and take a step back, if you're not having fun what's the point?

You'll do better in the next one. You weren't the only one fooled!