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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:06 pm
by cyrus62
So u were hoping for a 3dr party . If I would have fudge my 1st I would have landed on cult. In which case my oping gambit wouldn't have happen because I would have been to scared of getting cught.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:09 pm
by cyrus62
A Doctor wouldn't be wasting a save if they protected me to night.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:16 pm
by cyrus62
Invistagators would be wasting a shot if they check me.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:24 pm
by Cook
Also for clarification Asceticizer’s power lasts a single night, just like Rolestopper or similar roles.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:09 pm
by Quiet Owl
Bingle and Enchant both look town to me, and it should be known that
there is a bus driver.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:24 pm
by Bingle
Bus driver doesn’t explain it. They’d die targeting a pgo if enchant were telling the truth.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:29 pm
by Bingle
In post 749, cyrus62 wrote:I asked bingel and encant to tell us thire roll enchant told us bingel chicken out.
You’re right, I did ignore your request for useless noise.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:36 pm
by Quiet Owl
You have a point. I think that pgo actions would not be deflected to the other target, but I will ask the mod.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:38 pm
by Loftwing
I don't see the utility of Bingle faking a guilty as any scum here, not this early anyway.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:46 pm
by cyrus62
In post 756, Bingle wrote:
In post 749, cyrus62 wrote:I asked bingel and encant to tell us thire roll enchant told us bingel chicken out.
You’re right, I did ignore your request for useless noise.
The only way it wasn't useless as we have two choices either vote enchant off and flips pgo and then we vote you have off or we vote you off and see if your claim is true and if your claim is true we vote enchant off . My idea once again had merit you just don't want to get cught .

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:51 pm
by cyrus62
In post 758, Loftwing wrote:I don't see the utility of Bingle faking a guilty as any scum here, not this early anyway.
If enchant flips town pgo then bingel is scum. But maybe enchant is lieing and rolled a 4 that would make him 3p . Such as sk or jester. However bingel hasn't played along yet so I don't exactly trust him. But if there was a sk why only two kills.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:54 pm
by Loftwing
If Enchant was lying about their Alignment roll, wouldn't they plant it firmly into the the range and claim to fudge something else into what their actual role is?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:57 pm
by Loftwing
Like, this isn't exactly the damning evidence I look for here. If Enchant was lying about their alignment, it's because
they're scum, chief.
If they aren't lying about their alignment, then they would be town.
Now, please tell me the difference between "I rolled town" coming from town, and "I rolled town" coming from scum.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:18 pm
by Bingle
Sure. Having fullclaimed I can’t check the OP to see what I would have rolled to get the fake claim, nor would I have done so when I decided to fake a claim in the first place and it definitely wouldn’t be faster to check the OP to see what I rolled than to go into my old PMs in the first place.

Your request is useless at best and bloating the thread with garbage at worst. There are fucking 0 worlds where we eliminate the cop over the cop guilty with two flipped scum on D2, and pretending otherwise is hilarious. The fact that the cop guilty is apparently a PGO who decided to stay a PGO (literally the most anti town role in the setup) as someone who was overwhelmingly likely to be town instead of fudging it to any of:

3 - JOAT (With a 1-shot of Alignment Cop, Doctor, Roleblocker, and one role on this list (roll d20) each.)
4 - Mason-type (Roll d20, rerolling same-faction results, to determine if they are added to the Hypogeans, Masons, Monks, Truthers, Atheists, or Neighborhood Watch, based on what evil alignment rolls)
5 - Neighborizer/Cult Leader
6 - Fruit Vendor
8 - Parity Cop
9 - Role Cop
10 - Tracker
11 - Asceticizer

And then didn’t claim PGO in a rolemadness game as lurktown because apparently he actively wanted to kill off town investigators and was somehow targeted by a bus driver (fucking why?) who drove him with a scum player and was also scum because they didn’t claim to have performed the action and also the scum bus driver was targeted by specifically a doctor so they wouldn’t die due to targeting a pgo.

Any narrative where enchant is anything but scum requires multiple scum to have been acting in concert to fuck with my result.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:37 pm
by Quiet Owl
Loft why do you keep trying to play devil's advocate.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:02 pm
by Enchant
Actually i gave tip i have powerful role by posting i fudged my alignment (which is truth, duh), and planned to claim Doubled Parity Cop, so i can get killed or visited by other evil role.
Imo, if i roll pgo why i should just claim it and render useless?

About why Bingle could lie:
1. Jester. Regardless of D1 jester claim, i never would do that, Bingle possible too. Reason is simple. It's boring. Randomaccuse mostly works fine in damaging town and getting win as well.
2. He is other scum and believed i am scum, so can be pushed for townpoints. I am not sure what plan he having when i flip town.
3. He is scum and we are in plenty bad situation where scum could get majority so soon, but fairly it's very unlikely.

There's no way i was framed or something, because everyone visiting me will die, so Bingle is scum for almost sure, or are brilliant town logic.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:07 am
by Loftwing
In post 764, Quiet Owl wrote:Loft why do you keep trying to play devil's advocate.
Because some players act like the devil is not in the details, it's in the player...s alignment.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:02 am
by Enchant
I gived it good though (wasted 10 mins) and i realised, there's no way Bingle will be killed before me, and even if will, there's no benefit for me because i will be dead as well and so can't kill more ppls (which is my lifegoal).

I am Actual Cannibal, Shia LaBeouf which translates in Serial Killer Paranoid Gun Owner. I actually substracted from 4 and hit 20. Kyouko is my NK (so techically i didn't commit any crimes cuz cult doesh't have human rights).
My second role roll was Complex Serial Killer (actually i rolled Complex Vigilante, but SK can't be Vigilante here), but i obviously didn't choose it.
It means Bingle check is actually right, but why the hell is he alive after using ability on me. Maybe healed, maybe some nasty scum lying idk.

Because of possible amount scum against town here, and my wish to survive this mess as long as possible, i can offer my ability to blast everything to town use for now. I am basically Vigilante who hardly will die at night.

UNVOTE:
Your win for now, duh.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:19 am
by Dwlee99
VOTE: enchant

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:45 am
by lilith2013
VcEnchant (2): Mama Ru, Dwlee99
Dragon of the West (1): cyrus62
Loftwing (1): Quiet Owl
Dwlee99 (1): Loftwing

Not voting (5): Bingle, Dragon of the West, StrangeMatter, Save The Dragons, Enchant

With 10 alive it takes 6 people to reach a decision.
With 3 dead the deadline is 8 days 12 hours, of which (expired on 2021-11-06 02:00:07) remains.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:56 am
by Enchant
Didn't expect other reaction.

Still, bad idea to speedelim me, give it thought.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:34 am
by Mama Ru
Shia La Beaouf ate people?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:37 am
by Enchant
Yes, he does.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:12 am
by Bingle
In post 771, Mama Ru wrote:Shia La Beaouf ate people?
Assuming Shia La Beaouf is a people. All we really know for sure based on cannibal status is that he eats others of his species.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:22 am
by Bingle
Ru, who’d you target? They have an abnormally large chance of having shot Dunn?