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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:34 pm

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Anyway who should we lim
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:34 pm

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VOTE: cake
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:47 pm

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In post 742, SirCakez wrote:Ceph who do you actually want to kill today
Probably still ffery
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:52 pm

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She's just not making the ffery noises I'm used to idk
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:25 pm

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Cephhhhhh
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:26 pm

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Ceph did you snow me again
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:40 pm

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In post 743, fferyllt wrote:Pooky -
main reason is the lack of a hammer
, though I hate to base reads on what other people do pre-flip. He's not exactly phoning it in, but he's not the bright boisterous bundle of town energy I like to see! Also, no overpowering scent of Axe.
The "lack of hammer" refers to , right? I'm assuming that "the lack of hammer indicating scum" means only that the small hood doesn't want to hammer him (i.e. me and BEAR), ergo Pooky probably scum (as we know Pooky cannot be scum with anyone in the big hood).

Except, your initial comment about me/BEAR not wanting to kill Pooky was wrong, as BEAR is voting him. Which you acknowledged in .

Considering you currently read me as town and BEAR as mafia, how does the "lack of hammer" point to Pooky being mafia? The person you're scumreading in the small hood is voting him.
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:44 pm

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In post 740, Dannflor wrote:I don't understand why the somnus/ffery slot is apparently obvious scum to both SCRRRDBEAR and Lucian yet neither seem to actually want to kill it
Part of it is me wanting to give room to the replacement, and part of it is me still mulling over whether I want to flip in the small hood, or go with my previous strategy of flipping in the big hood.

Though I'll probably vote fferyllt soon, especially as my previous post finally seems like I found something scummy with which I can internally justify the vote.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:57 pm

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Don't hide your internally scumhunts be the 90s GameBoy with the clear plastic case and the wires plainly visible
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:00 pm

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In post 755, Isis wrote:Ceph did you snow me again
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:07 pm

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Eh. maybe he is town.

Speaking of internal I clearly haven't internalized the setup well enough.

And probably won't until I've lived with it a couple more RL days.

Will think some on if Cakez fits the puzzle better, or if I'm completely on the the wrong track re the big hood.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:11 pm

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In post 755, Isis wrote:Ceph did you snow me again
Yes, I convinced you that I know anything about mafia

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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:12 pm

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Cephrir is interested in the generic percentage list but unlike pooky isn't pretending it's chic. It's this believable mix of reluctance and confidence.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:13 pm

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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:00 pm

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Alright, just a quick thought dump here:

fferyllt is obviously a very competent mafia player. I've played with her before and I'm pretty sure she's fooled me before.
I don't see Lucian or ScaredBear being scum yet.
If not for the Somnus interactions, I don't know how I'd read this slot.
Either way, I have 0 interest in eliminating from the small hood, so I guess I don't need to worry about being wrong?
fferyllt townreading me: I think I'd expect that from town fferyllt, but scum fferyllt would probably try to pocket me too? The fact that she's mostly townreading me because I don't feel very pressured is not great though, for multiple reasons:
- I think I'm one of the least trusted players in the big hood, so I'm kinda expecting to get eliminated at some point?
- I actually WANT people to look at the big hood first, and I want mafia to kill in the big hood. So I don't really care if I'm being looked at here, see previous point.
- I haven't played mafia in forever, so I'm not sure a meta read on me is going to be very accurate
- There's no power roles to get nervous about having to out.

Soooo idk about fferyllt. Buuuut I'm not going to vote her today.

The fact that both ScaredBear and fferyllt seem to want to flip Pooky worries me though. I don't see the small hood scum bussing his partner on day 1?
However, fferyllt has been very reluctant about hammering. So maybe that's just fferyllt stalling?
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:37 am

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In post 744, fferyllt wrote:Because you interacted more in our previous games. Because you say you need more from me, but you're not trying to generate what you say you need.
lowkey rn I just want a flip and go from there. I'm not sure what I could generate in this last 24 hours to change much.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:38 am

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In post 752, Cephrir wrote:
In post 742, SirCakez wrote:Ceph who do you actually want to kill today
Probably still ffery
now this post is making me feel like there is a scum inside of Ceph and ffery blegh
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:39 am

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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:59 am

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what if we flash wagoned Ceph for doing literally nothing for all of EoD
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:04 am

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Oh, I understand what's bugging me. It was easy to say "we should leave the obvscum slot alive to force scum to shoot in the big hood", but now that the slot is replaced, there's a danger of someone actually changing their mind there. Which, if we were right initially, would be pretty bad for the game. And while Radja was (and is, I guess) scummy enough slot, there is a part of me saying that him being so stubborn about not eliminating in the small hood is probably +town. And now I feel like I have at least surface-level-y reasons to townread everyone in the big hood.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:08 am

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VOTE: fferyllt

I'm still not
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opposed to eliminating in the big hood, but the issue for me now is that I'm not sure who in there would I like to eliminate. In an ideal world, there'd be pressure there to sort, but... I'm tired. And none of the current big-hood-scum reasons really speak to me.
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:07 am

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In post 766, SirCakez wrote:
In post 752, Cephrir wrote:
In post 742, SirCakez wrote:Ceph who do you actually want to kill today
Probably still ffery
now this post is making me feel like there is a scum inside of Ceph and ffery blegh
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:08 am

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In post 768, SirCakez wrote:what if we flash wagoned Ceph for doing literally nothing for all of EoD
What would you like me to be doing

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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:38 am

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I personally feel trying to big brain flash wagon at end of day off of vibes is usually Bad
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:00 am

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In post 764, Radja wrote:Alright, just a quick thought dump here:

fferyllt is obviously a very competent mafia player. I've played with her before and I'm pretty sure she's fooled me before.
I don't see Lucian or ScaredBear being scum yet.
If not for the Somnus interactions, I don't know how I'd read this slot.
Either way, I have 0 interest in eliminating from the small hood, so I guess I don't need to worry about being wrong?
fferyllt townreading me: I think I'd expect that from town fferyllt, but scum fferyllt would probably try to pocket me too? The fact that she's mostly townreading me because I don't feel very pressured is not great though, for multiple reasons:
- I think I'm one of the least trusted players in the big hood, so I'm kinda expecting to get eliminated at some point?
- I actually WANT people to look at the big hood first, and I want mafia to kill in the big hood. So I don't really care if I'm being looked at here, see previous point.
- I haven't played mafia in forever, so I'm not sure a meta read on me is going to be very accurate
- There's no power roles to get nervous about having to out.

Soooo idk about fferyllt. Buuuut I'm not going to vote her today.

The fact that both ScaredBear and fferyllt seem to want to flip Pooky worries me though. I don't see the small hood scum bussing his partner on day 1?
However, fferyllt has been very reluctant about hammering. So maybe that's just fferyllt stalling?
I'm not sure you could extinguish the meta channel I read in your play.

The last miselim of you where I voted you, a scum player had fake-guiltied you.

Anyway, more to the point, if you ARE the least trusted member of the big hood, that's a reflection on the big hood imo.

Ceph, you probs don't remember much of it but I'll point back to the DeDeDe mini. Rajma's alt was kept around for elo mislim. Which I'd like to think wouldn't have happened if Morph had improbably still been alive at that point.
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