In post 602, mastina wrote:I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
I DO think that at least one scumteam TMI'd there being a scumteam of 3 tho--in part because of the reactions to my post, and them thinking "oh mastina scumslipped she's one of the other scumteam".
Will explain what I mean tomorrow but I'm VERY confident in this because I know something the other scumteam doesn't. (Well, two things. One being that I am town.)
So I think they fucked themselves over.
In post 604, mastina wrote: In post 602, mastina wrote:Crap I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
And I was gonna write it tonight,
(Basically I think we have guaranteed scum here--it's not a surefire thing for both teams to be teams of 3, but I am convinced there is at least one team of 3, and that team of 3 believed that I am on the other scumteam and by virtue of them being a team of 3, they assumed their mirror is also a team of 3, and assuming that, assumed that my mention of 6 scum was a scumslip of me being on the other team. Ironically in the process scumslipping themselves. Where they TMI'd in response to what they thought was TMI.)
There’s probably at least one scumteam of 3, which believes that I scumslipped.
Now, for the proof.
Okay, so basically:
In post 19, mastina wrote: In post 18, mastina wrote:REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.
(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)
These were my opening posts in the game.
Read them, and think about them from the perspective of this being a game where:
We don't know if it's normal mafia multiball without extremely special flair,
We don't know if it's a cult game with usual cult mechanics,
And we don't know if it's somewhere between the two extremes.
We don't know if we start the game with only two scum (altho we can infer it's doubtful), we don't know if we start the game with eight scum (altho I laid out why I believe that's doubtful), we don't know that the scumteams are symmetrical, we don't know that the scumteams have the same mechanics, we don't know how many scum are on a team.
To be fair, unless the mod specifically gave them information about their opposing scumteam, the scum don't know if the scum have the same mechanics/size as each other. However, you get the idea. The town doesn't know
anything
about the scum, other than that there are two different scumteams. That's it. That's what they know.
Okay, so given that:
The proof of what I'm saying is
in my opening post:
My opening post implies that there’s cult recruitment. I roleplayed abandoning a claim of leading a cult, and roleplayed abandoning a cult-fakeclaiming-Mason claim.
If there were two scumteams of 1-2 each with a recruitment mechanic, they would view my post as a scumslip. (Or, heck, even if only one scumteam was that way.) My opening two posts can--very very easily--be read as me being cult. I am known for being an incredibly cheeky scumfuck. I am known for claiming mason as a cult leader. I am known for not bothering to hide that I am scum and being very open as to the how and the mechanics used, telling huge truths.
Including being the type to be cheeky enough to claim scum in my first post--I've done it before, multiple times. (I can show those scumteams if you want to see the examples yourselves, but yes, scumastina is known for that sort of thing.)
Alright, so let's break this down so far, to make sure you're following.
REMEMBER:
We don't know if it's normal mafia multiball without extremely special flair, a cult game with usual cult mechanics, or somewhere between the two extremes. We don't know how many scum start in the game, if the scumteams are symmetrical, or if the scum share the same mechanics.
My opening post was one that could be seen as either a deliberate cheeky scumfuck post,
Or even as an accidental scumslip.
"mastina slipped that this is a cult game where the scum have voting powers".
That is an argument that could have easily been made by players.
"mastina is being a cheeky scumfuck telling us that she's a cultist in her first post".
That is an argument that could have easily been made by players.
Nobody did, though. Nobody thought that my opening post was a scumslip. Nobody thought that my opening post was me being a cheeky scumfuck.
If there were a scumteam of 1-2 scum, why didn't they think I was their counterpart?
They might not want to say it's a scumslip per se, but they could still use it as a reason to push me. They could scumread me, they could press me, without revealing their TMI. If someone were on a scumteam of 1-2 and saw my opening post, they would think my opening post was TMI. And thinking that, they could use this to push me. Except nobody did. The first vote on me?
This, which was
after
my
post 92, and
after
the first player calling attention to my 92.
Which suggests that there isn't actually two factions of 1-2.
If there was two factions of 1-2, they should've seen my
opening
post as the scumslip
. Yet they didn't.
So, what does that tell you?
That at least one faction has three, and precisely three, members.
And this faction genuinely believes that I TMI'd thanks to THEM having TMI.
Notably, proof of this is in MathBlade's replacement.
In post 334, MathBlade wrote: In post 21, Enchant wrote: In post 18, mastina wrote:REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.
Wdm cult game
Cult is just flavor, it's not confirmed they can convert.
Not sure about this post. The OP says cult conversion is neither confirmed nor denied.
Has there been an explicit message somewhere I missed?
Notice something?
In this post, MathBlade sees me imply a 1-2 member cult mafia faction but
doesn't think it's suspicious
.
In post 354, MathBlade wrote: In post 92, mastina wrote:(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but for
now
, this'll do.)
This post by Mastina is suspicious.
It’s clear from the presenters here we don’t know if cult can recruit.
Yet somehow Mastina ends up on 6 because why?
VOTE: mastina
Yet here, me stating ~6 scum, MathBlade sees as suspect.
So the crux of the issue then becomes:
Why was the 3-man scumteam callout considered a scumslip, but the 1-2-man cult callout
considered a scumslip?
If MathBlade were town, then
my very first post
should have pinged him as a scumslip showing TMI of a 1-2-man cult.
If MathBlade were a member of a 1-2-man scumteam, he should have thought my opening post was a scumslip showing TMI of being his opposite.
But MathBlade didn't react to my first post being a cult game callout.
MathBlade only reacted to my post where I made the callout of a
three-man
scumteam.
And this is true of all the players who have gone on to suspect me.
Their pressure on me didn't begin until
after
144.
(Side-note,
Bunnyonce might be scum, too, but if so is on the
opposite
team.)
So what does all of this mean?
That there is a scumteam with three members, who believed that my callout of there being six scum in the game was me as the opposite scumteam doing a TMI scumslip--when themselves ironically TMI'ing.
I still think that team is {MathBlade, professotic, Frozen Angel}, but obviously, I am behind and need to read the game.
I've not towned it up yet. But MathBlade is literally FoSing/voting three of the towniest slots in the game, with me as a fourth--I get that MathBlade can have bad towngames, but this is not an entrance MathBlade ever has as town.
at being 