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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:23 am
by CarbonFiber
@ Beli, JSU, PV, and Nacho (if you are town), let's consolidate our efforts on DV today.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:37 am
by The Fox and the Hound
CF wrote:2) Not caring about getting AP lynched is bullshit. I'm still happy to lynch him now but DV won't vote him. This as good as confirms DV as scum. DV is interested in tying people to AP, not getting him lynched.
No it doesn't and fuck you for saying so. You seem to be under the impression that DV wants to lynch AP; you are mistaken.
CF wrote:3) Justification for the reaction was to get a read on PV and others in the game. DV is incapable of reading or is simply ignoring things. I'd be shocked if he is town here.
This justification has been noted and deemed unworthy. We are under no obligation to believe your counterarguments and/or that they don't come from scum.
-Ceph

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:38 am
by The Fox and the Hound
Addendum to 2: as far as I know anyway

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:38 am
by PeregrineV
I saw a JustSheep post when I was skimming. Need to check into it more.


And see where I am.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:15 am
by penguin_alien
A) That would be a seal they're mislynching, not a penguin. If you're going to play this like you're town as per Micro 295 again, I demand more accurate visual aids.

B) I suspect Cabd is rather attached to his Tales theme here and has no interest in recasting you and your scum buddies as killer whales.
In post 7496, Just Sheep Us wrote:I like how I got V/LA for a weekend, and 2/4 scum go for the miller mislynch over the end of the investigative chain mislynch.
So you really think that town-F-16 decides it's an excellent use of his time to tunnel the extremely town Tammy? I could see him pulling that move for a bit to see what shakes out, but not to the extent he did.
In post 7504, magenta_thegreat wrote:Pedophilic roleblock/stop. we couldn't have done anything to you, even if we wanted to, pigey (and Orci did try N1 so...)
I have no idea what this is. Who's pigey? Are you reading the game? Or is your scum team just feeding you crappy summaries?
In post 7525, CarbonFiber wrote:@ Beli, JSU, PV, and Nacho (if you are town), let's consolidate our efforts on DV today.
Ooh, ooh, I know how this song goes! Let's push a lynch and not actually vote for it! Isn't it a lovely tune?

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:20 am
by Just Sheep Us
In post 7528, PeregrineV wrote:I saw a JustSheep post when I was skimming. Need to check into it more.


And see where I am.
Oh yeah, that letter should have also been addressed to you.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:21 am
by Just Sheep Us
In post 7529, penguin_alien wrote:Ooh, ooh, I know how this song goes! Let's push a lynch and not actually vote for it! Isn't it a lovely tune?
Except his vote is there lol

VOTE: FoxHound

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:31 am
by PeregrineV
In post 7256, Just Sheep Us wrote:i
have
a
fucking
clear
on
ap

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhadiofasdf;alsdkfas
It was this one.

Which you are taking from .

If you are clearing AP, then unless Breakfast is Godfather, AP clears Breakfast.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 7:19 am
by Titan
I had a weekend-long bender, haven't slept in over a week, and a pile of work I have to do for the semester that just started before I can sleep. I'm putting off mafia until tomorrow.

/whine

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:21 am
by The Fox and the Hound
In post 7524, CarbonFiber wrote:You can't actually be serious...

If anyone actually thinks DV has a point and want me to respond, tell me that you want a response. I could probably make a response almost ENTIRELY of quotes because the conversation basically going like this:

DV: *makes an argument*
F-16: Discuss it and points out the problem
DV: *makes the same argument again*
F-16 Discusses it again and tells DV to read the thread
DV: *makes the same argument yet again and whines about being an easy mislynch when I'm the leading wagon and not him*

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Tl;dr

1) At the time I said "vig me if RBD is town," they had claimed miller. I didn't buy that there would be two millers in the game and was right. They probably shouldn't have fake-claimed, and got counterclaimed by the townie with their role.

2) Not caring about getting AP lynched is bullshit. I'm still happy to lynch him now but DV won't vote him.
This as good as confirms DV as scum
. DV is interested in tying people to AP, not getting him lynched.

3) Justification for the reaction was to get a read on PV and others in the game. DV is incapable of reading or is simply ignoring things. I'd be shocked if he is town here.

4) Suspecting DV is not a scumtell especially when he is playing like scum.
How are people believing this?

Apparently I'm not allowed to scumread someone because they responded to it! Ooo, well no chance of ever lynching scum then!

Problem is that none of those 4 points actually counter my points at all, it's ridiculous.

1. Doesn't explain the complete certainty in RBD-scum that lynching/vigging CF in the case of RBD-town would be a reasonable suggestion. The fact that he was right doesn't mean squat.

2. He's still trying to say I'm saying he's scum with AP when that's not what I'm saying at all. There are so many problems with this. 1. If I thought CF was scum with AP based on CF's play it would make so much more sense to lynch CF first. 2. Especially with a clear on AP and probably greater resistance to his lynch. 3. What I'm arguing is that CF doesn't care about getting his scumreads lynched and doesn't completely apply to AP, so he's just throwing crap at me and doesn't actually have a response to my points at all!

3. I've already explained that I don't have a problem with the PV reaction, but that voting Tammy was ridiculous and something that wouldn't come from CF-town. His justification was that he would see who jumped on him for it. Like, really? Go back to my explanations for my thoughts and you'll see that CF is trying to justify it but he can't.

4. I've made it clear that town can suspect me, but suspecting me for terrible reasons is a scumtell when I'm playing nothing like scum (and I'm pretty sure you know it).

This post is just a whole bunch of words and saying bad stuff about me, but CF actually can't counter any of my points at all. 2 is the biggest ??? because it makes no sense that I'd want to lynch AP over him even if I was saying they're the scumteam, which I'm not even doing.

Please please please let's lynch CF. I don't think I've been sure like this in a long time.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:37 am
by PeregrineV
Without reading the posts in question, (unless I have)
In post 7534, The Fox and the Hound wrote:
Cabon wrote:1) At the time I said "vig me if RBD is town," they had claimed miller. I didn't buy that there would be two millers in the game and was right. They probably shouldn't have fake-claimed, and got counterclaimed by the townie with their role.
1. Doesn't explain the complete certainty in RBD-scum that lynching/vigging CF in the case of RBD-town would be a reasonable suggestion. The fact that he was right doesn't mean squat.
I was completely certain RBD was scum. I was wrong. Using "They was soooooo wrong" doesn't mean squat.
In post 7534, The Fox and the Hound wrote:
Carbon wrote:2) Not caring about getting AP lynched is bullshit. I'm still happy to lynch him now but DV won't vote him. This as good as confirms DV as scum. DV is interested in tying people to AP, not getting him lynched.
2. He's still trying to say I'm saying he's scum with AP when that's not what I'm saying at all. There are so many problems with this. 1. If I thought CF was scum with AP based on CF's play it would make so much more sense to lynch CF first. 2. Especially with a clear on AP and probably greater resistance to his lynch. 3. What I'm arguing is that CF doesn't care about getting his scumreads lynched and doesn't completely apply to AP, so he's just throwing crap at me and doesn't actually have a response to my points at all!
Deconstructing this, you're saying Carbon doesn't care about getting his scumreads lynched.
:neutral:
Don't even know where to begin.

In post 7534, The Fox and the Hound wrote:
Carbon wrote:3) Justification for the reaction was to get a read on PV and others in the game. DV is incapable of reading or is simply ignoring things. I'd be shocked if he is town here.
3. I've already explained that I don't have a problem with the PV reaction, but that voting Tammy was ridiculous and something that
wouldn't come from CF-town
. His justification was that he would see who jumped on him for it. Like, really? Go back to my explanations for my thoughts and you'll see that CF is trying to justify it but he can't.
Bolded argument is so weak.
If you want to say it was a bad reaction test, or poorly done, go for it.
Expecting to convince us that Carbon is scum based on a poorly done reaction test?
No.
In post 7534, The Fox and the Hound wrote:
Carbon wrote:4) Suspecting DV is not a scumtell especially when he is playing like scum.
4. I've made it clear that town can suspect me, but suspecting me for terrible reasons is a scumtell when I'm playing nothing like scum (and I'm pretty sure you know it).
This is a totally circular argument.
As such, it can be ignored from both parties.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:39 am
by PeregrineV
In post 7525, CarbonFiber wrote:@ Beli, JSU, PV, and Nacho (if you are town), let's consolidate our efforts on DV today.
I'll read the FoxHound posts today, but they are definitely a weaker scumread. They already claim?

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:43 am
by Yulia Jue
Prodding Red Gyarados

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 4:47 pm
by The Fox and the Hound
PV, please read my other posting on the CF scumread, where I actually explain what I think.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:36 pm
by magenta_thegreat
In post 7529, penguin_alien wrote:
B) I suspect Cabd is rather attached to his Tales theme here and has no interest in recasting you and your scum buddies as killer whales.
I suspect he is attached to JRPG in general

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:41 pm
by magenta_thegreat
I dunno what a 747 is, but I don't remember the even night tag to the initial claim.

Why did you specifically say "Cleared via our role" when beli/ffery wasn't?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:21 am
by Nachomamma8
nty, sir i would not like to have another

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:03 am
by Just Sheep Us
In post 7540, magenta_thegreat wrote:Why did you specifically say "Cleared via our role" when beli/ffery wasn't?

.....................................................................................................


ap is clear

ap has an innocent result on beliffery

beliffery is clear

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:04 am
by Just Sheep Us
do you have, like, anything interesting to talk about? repeating facts in individual chunks is fucking boring.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:05 am
by PeregrineV
In post 7538, The Fox and the Hound wrote:PV, please read my other posting on the CF scumread, where I actually explain what I think.
or some other post?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:06 am
by AngryPidgeon
In post 7542, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 7540, magenta_thegreat wrote:Why did you specifically say "Cleared via our role" when beli/ffery wasn't?

.....................................................................................................


ap is clear

ap has an innocent result on beliffery

beliffery is clear
Logic too difficult; does not compute.

Wait, what if Stalin is an Amnesiac Follower Godfather though?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:08 am
by PeregrineV
Vote: Nacho

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:09 am
by PeregrineV
Happy Birthday Angry!!

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:11 am
by Just Sheep Us
In post 7525, CarbonFiber wrote:@ Beli, JSU, PV, and Nacho (if you are town), let's consolidate our efforts on DV today.
p5 you should switch your vote.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:25 am
by The Fox and the Hound
Oh, so "consolidate our efforts" is just a euphemism, for a moment there I thought anyone was still interested in figuring out our alignment

How silly of me