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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:41 am
by TehBrawlGuy
it's less the initial push and more that IIRC you didn't stop after the raised eyebrows
town can basically just wait and prove their towniness later (i'm a great example of that this game actually, especially since you weren't in immediate danger, but scum want to be in the bloc asap to try to solidify there/avoid PoE later
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:42 am
by Golden Robster
In post 7521, Vaxkiller wrote:Maybe we should be lynching outside the 2 of us.
edit i typed this out then the above 4 posts happened
nice try; now you want to lynch someone else as soon as I town the fuck up and you see zero openings
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:43 am
by TehBrawlGuy
In post 7523, Golden Robster wrote:there shouldn't be a townblock; every player should be scrutinised especially given how these past two scum lynches have happened
by CFD's
we could continue the streak and cfd to creature today
i'm just sayin' cfd's have been pretty on fire this game
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:45 am
by TehBrawlGuy
and?
if he's town that makes sense
if he's scum and you're scum that makes sense
if he's scum and you're town, that still makes sense b/c he wasn't on the chopping block, and gr is also a mislynch so he doesn't care which way it swings
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:46 am
by TehBrawlGuy
like the only situation where creature not hammering is AI is if Creature+GR is the scumteam and I don't think we're in that universe
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:48 am
by Vaxkiller
In post 7528, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
and?
if he's town that makes sense
if he's scum and you're scum that makes sense
if he's scum and you're town, that still makes sense b/c he wasn't on the chopping block, and gr is also a mislynch so he doesn't care which way it swings
I guess you have a scum-explanation for his recent vote as well?
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:50 am
by TehBrawlGuy
honestly I have no fucking clue why anyone of either alignment does that, so I'm not gonna pretend I do
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:51 am
by Vaxkiller
In post 7528, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
and?
if he's town that makes sense
if he's scum and you're scum that makes sense
if he's scum and you're town, that still makes sense b/c he wasn't on the chopping block, and gr is also a mislynch so he doesn't care which way it swings
I totally disagree with this.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:51 am
by Vaxkiller
In post 7531, TehBrawlGuy wrote:honestly I have no fucking clue why anyone of either alignment does that, so I'm not gonna pretend I do
BUT YOU DO PRETEND TO YOU JUST SAID IT MADE SENSE.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:52 am
by Vaxkiller
im sorry for yelling, i just got triggered or whatever.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:54 am
by Golden Robster
In post 7512, Ankamius wrote:Wavemode is still alive because he has no presence and until today, was shielding a scum that pocketed him
take a look at this anka
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:56 am
by TehBrawlGuy
how did you manage to misread when all I posted was 4 sentences
creature not hammering you back then makes sense
creature voting JJD right now does not make sense
neither of these are alignment indicative
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:56 am
by Golden Robster
+ then add on the fact that wavemode had gamma as locktown for 6 days straight + had JJD and Vax as strong town for the majority of days
from scum point of view conf!town wavemode is a liability for town given hopkirk and flavor were NK'd over him which fits what you just said
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:57 am
by TehBrawlGuy
oooooh that's a spicy post by GR
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:58 am
by Golden Robster
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:00 am
by Ankamius
That's more a support argument that would cement that associative more than be the backbone of a case on it
But that specifically can be worked out later, I'm not entirely against being wrong on at least one scumread, but that's the type of thing that's very plausible to be correct but isn't provable without Vax flipping
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:06 am
by Krazy
In post 7430, Krazy wrote:So let's review:
What evidence is there that GR is town?
None.
-We already know scum committed to bussing Wheme, and GR joined on Wheme after the wagon was already fully formed.
-GR did NOT bus texcat but used WIFOM to argue that she wouldn't
-GR was put into a position where she has to crossbus after the texcat vote because the masons and townblock had grown too large
Where is the evidence that GR is scum?
Everywhere.
-GR Is constantly playing up scumhunting theater while rarely developing reads into sustained arguments and rarely getting wagon support for her pushes. Remember, when she is town, she pushes to get people to join her wagons and sheep her vote.
-She goes out of her way to foreground 'active town play' with little barrages of small posts
-She is constantly unvoting and revoting, always playing up her decision making process rather than emphasizing the pressure she's putting on wagons
-She is constantly tweaking her own little lists to play up her appearance of sorting while never actually committing to half her reads
-Her development on texcat is totally incoherent and her counter-push on Scion was inconceivable for a town!GR
-Texcat's interactions with her are forced and very puffery, and always include an additional response to JJD because texcat doesn't trust herself to only respond to a scumbuddy
-Gamma's interactions with her are incredibly fake and totally at odds with how both vote
-She has unloaded a massive wave of AtE and why-meisms as soon as she was under pressure which is TOTALLY consistent with how she plays scum when she's under pressure
This is not a wall.
Interact here TBG.
GR is fake. Look at how many times she goes, "oh, scum wouldn't bus here." But then look at her explanation of texcat. "Oh, if I was scum I'd definitely bus here." So GR sees busses as implausible all the time but then when she thinks about how SHE plays scum she decides that of course she would bus. This too is cognitive dissonance.
Remember the structure of her argument when she pushed back against your case against JJD. Then compare that to how she defends herself on texcat. The arguments are irreconcilable.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:08 am
by Ankamius
Sigh
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:08 am
by Ankamius
I really don't know what to tell you Krazy
But this is a tunnel
Reset.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:09 am
by TehBrawlGuy
yes your
11 points
GR is scum (that I would have to go dig through her iso to refute any of) is clearly not a wall
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:10 am
by Krazy
GIVE ME FUCKING ONE ON WHY SHE IS TOWN THEN
JUST FUCKING ONE
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:12 am
by Krazy
Do you remember Hopkirk? Every day fucking "texcat is town man, seems towny"
krazy: WHY
no response
TEXCAT FLIPS SCUM
every day
Krazy: GR is scum fam
TBG/Ank: nah GR town
Krazy: WHY
*crickets*
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:14 am
by Ankamius
If you want to go that road
My confident preferred wagons have all been on scum
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:15 am
by Ankamius
Plus those wagons all were hard to push through (:
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:16 am
by Krazy
YEAH, WHEN THEY AGREED WITH MY FOURTH POST OF THE GAME
STOP TOOTING YOUR OWN HORN, MY EARLY READS HAVE FUCKING BEEN BETTER THAN YOURS ANK
ACCUSE ME OF TUNNELING AGAIN AND I VOTE YOU PURELY OUT OF SPITE
GIVE ME AN ARGUMENT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP