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In post 7548, Just Sheep Us wrote:

In post 7525, CarbonFiber wrote:@ Beli, JSU, PV, and Nacho (if you are town), let's consolidate our efforts on DV today.

p5 you should switch your vote.

In post 7552, CarbonFiber wrote:PV, Nacho is very likely not getting lynched today. Vote Fox with me. If the tide turns, I'll vote Nacho with you. That and you can always vig him tonight. I am much more certain about Fox at the moment.

In post 7350, Yulia Jue wrote:

Votecount 4-6 (unchanged from 4-5)

With 11 players alive, it will take 6 votes to lynch or no lynch.

Red Gyarados (1): Breakfast With Stalin
Penguin_Alien (2): magenta_thegreat, CarbonFiber
magenta_thegreat (1): Just Sheep Us
CarbonFiber (2): , AngryPidgeon, Penguin_Alien
Titan (1): Red Gyarados


Not Voting (4): Nachomamma8, The Fox and the Hound, PeregrineV, Titan

Yeah, we have time.

Mod Note: None at the moment

Deadline is set at 12 days: (expired on 2014-05-25 04:32:54)

In post 7504, magenta_thegreat wrote:Pedophilic roleblock/stop. we couldn't have done anything to you, even if we wanted to, pigey (and Orci did try N1 so...)

In post 7555, CarbonFiber wrote:Yeah, we have time.

In post 7560, CarbonFiber wrote:Also, why did you want to be lynched earlier?

In post 5730, Titan wrote:Falcon - Here's DV's iso in Gundam Seed

I thought the way he went after majiffy was pretty strong. It didn't have the flair, but it had a bit of certainty.

In post 7563, CarbonFiber wrote:Misrepresenting posts and even after it is explained to him

In post 7314, penguin_alien wrote:OK. Basically caught up (sorry, lots of IRL stuff to resolve), and we have a goddamn scum lynch for today.

VOTE: CarbonFiber

a) There is absolutely no way in hell town-F-16 was reaction testing obvtown-Titan for that long.

b) I completely believe that he's scum who wants town-Tammy dead via lynch today and no later.

I'd lynch magenta or JSU, but I think CF's the scum flip that's going to break the game open for us. And really, JSU would be for information to confirm AP and BWS.

Tammy, I'm assuming when it's not 2 AM your time and you have a minute we can chat, but for the love of absolutely everything that is holy, stop trying to get yourself lynched, FFS.

Also thinking this is town-Nacho. I want to think I'm seeing PV-town here in the way he's presenting his thoughts, but I'm not sold yet. And even though info from a JSU flip is a thing, I really still want to town read them, so I have zero problem lynching a supposed miller who spent absolutely ages trying to lynch Tammy while cheerleading other town mislynches and not voting them. There's a difference between being slow to vote and goading other people into voting in your stead.

So town reads on Nacho, BWS, AP, JSU, Tammy --> scum = CF, magenta, RG...PV/F&H? Not sure about the fourth slot, but I'd lynch any of the first three happily.

...and posting this, incoherent as it is, because I'm zonked and just glad to be done dealing with V/LA stuff.

P-edit: Tammy...talk to me when you're not toasted.

In post 7243, The Fox and the Hound wrote:

In post 7017, AngryPidgeon wrote:Pen or Pencil?
Old gen console or latest gen console?
What are you doing right now (other than responding to this)?

GTKAS <3

In post 7037, CarbonFiber wrote:You and DV on the other hand, scumread me for scumhunting you, throw in discredits, and try to position yourself against me. If you are town, I don't even know what to say.

See, this kind of stuff is just ridiculous. I haven't even voted for you, and I explained why I thought your reasons for suspicious us didn't make sense, and I really don't get how it's unreasonable for me to investigate this further. I'm not relentlessly tunneling or doing anything else that I feel could require this 'if you're town I don't know what to say' stuff. And you're the one complaining about discredits!

In post 7050, The Fox and the Hound wrote:I'm not positioning. I'm saying what I think about different posts. This is how I play mafia. Eventually it all, in theory, adds up to an opinion.

This is exactly how I am. <3

In post 7111, The Fox and the Hound wrote:It could not possibly be more boring?

Scumreading me is never boring.

In post 7107, CarbonFiber wrote:

In post 7104, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 7098, CarbonFiber wrote:Thank god, someone that actually makes sense posted. You should have killed AP N2. Anyways, PV, give me a quick update on where your reads are at.

Unless the last 30 pages contain mystical answers to as yet asked questions,

Town-me, you, JustSheep

Not first choice for scum -
Breakfast
FoxHound

Used to think was town before replacement
16 Penguin_Alien16 Clyton
4 Magenta_thegreat (mara and orci) 4 orcinus_theoriginal

Leaving 4 scum by PoE & play

1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) <--most likely
5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) <---I know this is unpopular, but I want empirical evidence of townhood, not circumstantial
9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) <----This may be switchable with the 2 categories above it.
13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) <-----because I still have a null-read 7000 posts into the game. Experience says that it's probably scum.

This makes a lot of sense and feels town as fuck.

In post 7125, CarbonFiber wrote:

In post 7104, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 7098, CarbonFiber wrote:Thank god, someone that actually makes sense posted. You should have killed AP N2. Anyways, PV, give me a quick update on where your reads are at.

Unless the last 30 pages contain mystical answers to as yet asked questions,

Town-me, you, JustSheep

Not first choice for scum -
Breakfast
FoxHound

Used to think was town before replacement
16 Penguin_Alien16 Clyton
4 Magenta_thegreat (mara and orci) 4 orcinus_theoriginal

Leaving 4 scum by PoE & play

1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) <--most likely
5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) <---I know this is unpopular, but I want empirical evidence of townhood, not circumstantial
9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) <----This may be switchable with the 2 categories above it.
13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) <-----because I still have a null-read 7000 posts into the game. Experience says that it's probably scum.

Thisthisthisthisthisthisthis. So fucking this.

Just look at this post, see how much sense it makes.

I was getting really confused and lost with all the latest posting but I'm glad PV jumped in and actually started making sense and looking at the game in a way that I can understand. Thank god you are in the game.

I am so confused.

In post 7145, Titan wrote:And I applaud that your scum team is going to get me lynched, but considering I'm actually going to argue for my own lynch today unless something weird happens, it's whatever.

Tammy, if you have something that you really really think makes lynching you a good idea (I'd like penguin's thoughts on this too actually), then I'm happy to do it. But if it's even so much as partly because you're frustrated with the game or think scum is going to get you lynched anyway, then there's no way I'm going to touch you. I've decided that unless something really odd happens I'm just going to assume you're town and do away with any semblance of paranoia. I know you don't trust me, but unless I really believe that you genuinely think lynching you is a good idea, I'm going to fight against your lynch regardless of what Ceph thinks.

Now CF, my immediate reaction to your posts was more confusion than actually finding you scummy, but your posts were strange enough that I think it's pretty reasonable and even expected that Tammy would scumread you for it. So, after everything you've gone through with Tammy this game, I don't understand why something that is not even scummy causes you to completely revert you read, especially from someone who has insulted my townplay because I pressure people who suspect me. You've even voted for Tammy previously in the game, so having such a problem with Tammy voting for you doesn't make any sense! Please explain this to me.

In post 7163, PeregrineV wrote:Go read Carbon's first 50 posts. If you still think he is scum, come back and explain why.

I read what was probably their 50 posts last night. I thought they were pretty town, but they're not nearly as amazing as you seem to be implying.

In post 7164, CarbonFiber wrote:NotScience, can you explain why you prefer not to lynch Tammy when she asked to be lynched? That implies a certain role that benefits from being lynched, doesn't it?

If I can tell that this is probably at least partly emotion-based and not necessarily the best course of action, then surely you can too. I mean, she's even voting for you.

In post 7179, Titan wrote:

In post 7175, CarbonFiber wrote:

In post 7173, The Fox and the Hound wrote:

In post 7166, CarbonFiber wrote:

In post 7165, The Fox and the Hound wrote:Woah, what is going on?

Vote Tammy please or explain in detail why you won't.

I'm not voting Tammy because I have no idea why I should (I'll read up soon though).

Okay, let me know when you are ready?

I take it back.

I have no interest in hydraing with you.

Tammy, if he's scum then he's doing all this because it's to his win condition and is probably hating it as he's doing it. If he's town then he genuinely thinks you're scum. Please don't make this a thing outside the game.

In post 7183, CarbonFiber wrote:Gah, pretending to suspect Tammy always ends in disaster.

UNVOTE:

Ok this feels pretty fake.

Hmm, I'm once again conflicted on CF, and I don't think I'd vote for him without reading all of his posts anyway, so I'll do that and then make a decision.

What I do think though is that what CF did is the kind of thing that looked really scummy and was bound to be considered suspicious. So, wanting to see who would jump on doesn't make any sense because I feel like that's what town would do. I actually think it odd that RG didn't react to the whole CF thing despite having CF as a scumread. I know that I was trying to think of ways how CF was not scum and coming up short, and didn't even consider that it might be a reaction test. Theories about RG & CF being scum together with this being a ploy to enable CF to townread RG convincingly (and maybe get RG townread by others too) are going through my mind, but I'm not sure how likely this is.

In post 7214, CarbonFiber wrote:1) Why am I not voting the Nacho wagon is a stupid accusation. We are nowhere near deadline. We're not lynching right now. Who I am voting is irrelevant.

But you know after previous events in this game that often lynches are essentially decided way before deadline (e.g. Mastin, Cupcake), so this doesn't make sense.

CF, AP's reaction test, although not a very good one, made a lot of sense based on a post he made before it (I forget exactly what it was). Although the apparent lack of scum motivation is what's causing me to be cautious about this whole thing, I don't understand your reaction test at all, not your conclusions, your expectations nor your behaviour. The PV thing makes sense, but the Tammy stuff? I feel like town just nips it in the bud as soon as it starts to go downhill (e.g. what AP did), not try to continue it. That feels like scum that tries to fake a town reaction test, but that doesn't know the best way to make themselves look good out of it after.

AP, don't do this self-voting thing. Although I don't feel the same way I do about Tammy, there's no way I'm going to support some lynching you scheme to prove that CF is scum when it actually does nothing to achieve that anyway.

I've kind of skimmed some of the most recent posts, but this is too much for me right now. I'll be back a bit later today.

In post 7565, Just Sheep Us wrote:p5, if you think I'm town, even without reading the game, you have a 2/3 chance of hitting scum if you vote Fox and Hound with us instead of letting scum push through a mislynch onto F-16.