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[ProfessorDrapion]

If you’re reading this, please vote Cephrir, you don’t need to read the last 302 pages.

[Dancing Puppets]

I did as I read? It makes your paragraph meaningless

There’s nothing here.

Ceph is more town because post ABCD
Taly is scummy for post EFGH

Those are reasons unique to them

You’re arguing an information elim not that Taly is actually scummier than Ceph

In other words you didn’t answer the question asked

Math, you are jumping into a different conversation, and asking why it does not fit into the conversation you were having.

You are demanding that this post explains why Taly is better then Ceph, but RCE was trying to explain why No Elim was bad. Those are not the same conversation.

I asked the latter question consistently, I am assuming RCE’s premise is true then why Taly

I am not saying I won’t vote permanently but we should at least have more reasons than “oops someone has to die”

Then if Taly flips town scum aren’t accountable
And if Taly flips town no one gets town cred except maybe one player

I want to have more from this day than that

I am going back to bed.

You’re right, I haven’t even considered what a complete waste of time it would be to ram this stupid gladiate though because the kill Taly faction doesn’t have valid reasons for gladiating them and doesn’t care how completely pointless and nonsensical this entire argument is.

[ProfessorDrapion]

on reflection I am willing to move T-Bone to town and recommend we eliminate Mathblade / Frogster

Yes, but we vote Cephrir because he is legit confirmed to be wolf with one of them if he’s wolf.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm already voting cephrir because a ticket off this island is the best wedding present anyone could ask for

[ProfessorDrapion]

There’s a real good chance Cephrir is wolf and I don’t like how Bell is pushing for Taly so hard RN.
He realizes that if Cephrir flips wolf it looks REAL bad on him.

[Bell]

*deep breath*
Okay I get the anger. Sort of.

I'm just going to push for Taly's death now if nothing has changed.


Can we please eliminate Taly thank you.

No, we will not eliminate obvious town.

You'll cope. You've probably compromised worse on less important things.

[ProfessorDrapion]

So let’s flip Cephrir wolf and then we can start pressuring Bell.

[Bell]

I'm here for this.

Professor, is there some reason you're just trolling me at this point?

[ProfessorDrapion]

*deep breath*
Okay I get the anger. Sort of.

I'm just going to push for Taly's death now if nothing has changed.


Can we please eliminate Taly thank you.

No, we will not eliminate obvious town.

You'll cope. You've probably compromised worse on less important things.

You’ll cope with me. I win games. I am Town.
IDC if your wolf, you will lose because I’m town.
Face the facts, that’s how it goes.

[Taly]

*deep breath*
Okay I get the anger. Sort of.

I'm just going to push for Taly's death now if nothing has changed.


Can we please eliminate Taly thank you.

No, we will not eliminate obvious town.

You'll cope. You've probably compromised worse on less important things.

Bell

I've posted 8 times in the PT since your last post...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is this a guillotina alt

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'm here for this.

Professor, is there some reason you're just trolling me at this point?

Not trolling.
I’ll legit pressure you hard tomorrow if Cephrir flips wolf even though the day will end on either Math/Frog because lol spewed wolf there by Cephrir but I will make sure your heard as potential wolf as well.

[Bell]

Because all I can see is that you're trolling me at this point. Because you know better. You've played mafia for years right?
You'll live.

I hope.

[Dancing Puppets]

@Math

Spoiler:

Your town read on Cephrir is WAY to over confident.
Why?

I was already lightly leaning town on Ceph before the gladiate.

I think that a scum!Gladiate from Ceph would be near game throwing levels of bad.

I think that Ceph is good at the game.

i.e. I think that ceph doing the gladiate there was possibly the most town indicative thing that any player has done this game so far lol

Perhaps I am being too demanding when I ask for a full scum case on Taly from whoever is advocating for Taly to get killed here.

I will lower the bar for those who want to kill Taly.

Give me your single most compelling reason to believe Taly is mafia here.

- I received a neighbor PM, and I find it odd for Toog to come to the conclusion that he should be treating bell like town off the bat. My expectation for town receiving that role pm to be healthy distrust of their hoodmate. Makes me question if he was actually interested in sorting Bell, or if he was mainly hoping for mutual town reads.

- I feel like Taly has a poor signal to noise ratio. She has been one of the slots this game that I have found it hard to remember a single post she has made. (in my experience, there tends to exist at least some scum in this list)

- To copy and paste something that I incorrectly said about math, but does apply to Taly: She prioritized checking her own iso for claims early on during her rep in.

Taly claims her hood with Bell in her very first post of 1041. Then clarifies that she thought it was good to do so because she did an iso skim of Toog before she made her first post.

- I will ducktail this into saying that that makes me scratch my head at this post 11 posts later .

I just realized Toog has only posted twice and now I'm tilting my head at the suspicion there.

pedit: pooky already voted, so this was a waste of my time smh.

I am not going to pretend that I am convinced she is scum.

But, I also don't think that she is a lock town.

And I think killing a null-ish slot is better then killing no one.

Hope that helps you pooky.

This makes sense.

Spiritual vote on Taly.

I will see where things stand after my nap to give Ceph people a chance to provide a case.

Dafuq? You were literally just saying Taly was being dogpiled?

[Bell]

I'm here, this thread can't get worse if you want to play a game of wills I'm happy to.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mathblade is mafia can we stop interacting with the mafia it will make the thread less bloated

[JohnnyFarrar]

Happy scum day bell

[ProfessorDrapion]

Because all I can see is that you're trolling me at this point. Because you know better. You've played mafia for years right?
You'll live.

I hope.

I’ll prosper if we vote Cephrir.
I’ll tell you that much.


And trust me if your town you want me to prosper, if your wolf you don’t want me to prosper at all.

So each time you refuse the call or keep calling me a troll it’ll keep admitting your wolf with the fear.
So if your not wolf I suggest you follow me on this one.

[Bell]

I'm here for this.

Professor, is there some reason you're just trolling me at this point?

Not trolling.
I’ll legit pressure you hard tomorrow if Cephrir flips wolf even though the day will end on either Math/Frog because lol spewed wolf there by Cephrir but I will make sure your heard as potential wolf as well.

I don't care. Your own absolutism means that the joke is on you for pushing me because you misread me.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Allow me to Prosper.

[Malakittens]

i'm already voting cephrir because a ticket off this island is the best wedding present anyone could ask for

[Dancing Puppets]

Their recent posting is good but it’s under duress. If their earlier posting left an impact on me I would probably be voting ceph here? But I can’t be sure on that. Just from the games that I’ve played with Taly I’ve never had an unsure feeling toward them, it was always a very definitive read one way or the other but I haven’t played with scum!Taly so my hesitance to put a hard read down is what is leaving that possibility in my head.

I suggest you read her ISO back then. I think when filtered to remove the background noise of the rest of the game her towniness shines. There’s a weaker spot once she starts talking about the high activity causing problems but that feels like the exception rather than the norm.

~GE

I’ll do so but I doubt it trumps the fact that Ceph was actively going against the slots that I feel most strongly contain scum. However agenda driven that may be or seem.

What are the slots you think are scum?

~GE

Math, Johnny, potentially BB, TBone.

Maybe I’m wrong on frog but I townread them pre claim and haven’t really read up post claim.

But again, none of this makes Taly scum. *screams into the void*

[ProfessorDrapion]

Prove to me I miss read you.
When we flip Cephrir and they flip wolf, be the first to push Math/Frog tomorrow and make sure it’s the wolf flip.

[ProfessorDrapion]

@bell

[Bell]

Because all I can see is that you're trolling me at this point. Because you know better. You've played mafia for years right?
You'll live.

I hope.

I’ll prosper if we vote Cephrir.
I’ll tell you that much.


And trust me if your town you want me to prosper, if your wolf you don’t want me to prosper at all.

So each time you refuse the call or keep calling me a troll it’ll keep admitting your wolf with the fear.
So if your not wolf I suggest you follow me on this one.

I love confidence gaming and asking people to trust them in a game of deception.
Tell me more about it. Tell me more about how you're talking out of every side of your mouth all at once.