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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:35 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 7621, TheGoldenParadox wrote:relax please :(
lol if you can imagine 20 pages of just this...that's hood-life. Not much fun tbh, and hard to understand at times, but it is just a game and you never know what ppl are dealing with in real life, so always try not to take things to heart! <3

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:38 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 7620, Almost50 wrote:
In post 7557, Bell wrote:
In post 7552, Almost50 wrote:@Bell: You do trust me, no? I mean, skill-wise. If you do, please follow me. IF I'm wrong I will take ALL the blame.
Where am I sheeping?
Wait for now, then if chemist doesn't self-sacrifice you vote her, and then stay put for tomorrow when we have worked things out in the PT.

P.S. And if I'm dead by tomorrow, follow sb. ;)
I hesitate to say it, but there's no reason you should be dead tomorrow. Although if you were, it would be further proof that Math's theory is incorrect.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:47 pm
by Almost50
@sb: Mate, it's NEVER about having a different view. Ask Nero. We almost never agree on the same read of a single player the hole game, and we sometimes take bouts on each other. Ask Titus. We have some fundamental differences between our play styles.

This is about someone who thinks "linear" and totally refuses to consider any other possibilities regardless of the situation. Man, he still considers Titus/Nero maybe playing against us, despite us both being in that hood -in addition to Norwee- and all confirming otherwise!! Also, how hard is it to understand that "at least one" does NOT equate to "exactly one"?

And then he says "do you realize that if your theory is true, Bell is scum?| and facepalms?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:49 pm
by Almost50
Amd then he talks to me AGAIN after I had made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that I don't want to interact with him anymore. Is that too hard to understand too?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:55 pm
by superbowl9
In post 7627, Almost50 wrote:@sb: Mate, it's NEVER about having a different view. Ask Nero. We almost never agree on the same read of a single player the hole game, and we sometimes take bouts on each other. Ask Titus. We have some fundamental differences between our play styles.

This is about someone who thinks "linear" and totally refuses to consider any other possibilities regardless of the situation. Man, he still considers Titus/Nero maybe playing against us, despite us both being in that hood -in addition to Norwee- and all confirming otherwise!! Also, how hard is it to understand that "at least one" does NOT equate to "exactly one"?

And then he says "do you realize that if your theory is true, Bell is scum?| and facepalms?
:eek: whatd i do

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:01 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 7627, Almost50 wrote:@sb: Mate, it's NEVER about having a different view. Ask Nero. We almost never agree on the same read of a single player the hole game, and we sometimes take bouts on each other. Ask Titus. We have some fundamental differences between our play styles.

This is about someone who thinks "linear" and totally refuses to consider any other possibilities regardless of the situation. Man, he still considers Titus/Nero maybe playing against us, despite us both being in that hood -in addition to Norwee- and all confirming otherwise!! Also, how hard is it to understand that "at least one" does NOT equate to "exactly one"?

And then he says "do you realize that if your theory is true, Bell is scum?| and facepalms?
eh, i can see the above is in reference to me, so I'll respond. You're incorrect about my view on Titus/Nero - as should be pretty clear from the discussion so far today (and in the previous dayphase). However, it would be fair to say that I don't consider your view on somebody to be equivalent to a mech-conf, so no I wouldn't be convinced someone is 100% town just because you have a gut feeling they are. "at least one" doesn't necessarily equate to 1, but it might. The consensus view in this game is that it probably does - as noted, that isn't some madcap MM-theory, it's something which most people think is a reasonable possibility. You will see this if you look at people's solves today (and presumably the story is same in your hood). I have definitely considered other possibilities and changed my opinion throughout the game - me doing so was key to us flipping scum yesterday - although my initial reads have generally been fairly good. I can see you've taken it personally that I don't agree with you on some things - it isn't a sign of disrespect towards you, and it's honestly fine for people to have different styles and approaches. As I've said to you before, I think the line is drawn where things get personal, and there's really no need to insult or disrespect me because you don't agree with me - it's a game, so have fun, but try and be nice too. :) If it's helpful we can have a proper chat after the game too, as otherwise this discussion may derail things.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:07 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 7628, Almost50 wrote:Amd then he talks to me AGAIN after I had made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that I don't want to interact with him anymore. Is that too hard to understand too?
*shrug* i'm trying to make an extra effort to extend an olive branch to you, as I really don't see the reason for you being so angry at me in particular. I mean, even if you really think my opinions are bad, does that really warrant getting so mad? Mafia is a game of persuasion and co-operation, so if you think I'm wrong about something you should be trying to persuade me of your viewpoint, but honestly the best way to do that isn't to swear at me and insult me. If that's too much to ask at the moment, it sounds like it might be worth you taking a short break from this thread though.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:09 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 7629, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 7627, Almost50 wrote:@sb: Mate, it's NEVER about having a different view. Ask Nero. We almost never agree on the same read of a single player the hole game, and we sometimes take bouts on each other. Ask Titus. We have some fundamental differences between our play styles.

This is about someone who thinks "linear" and totally refuses to consider any other possibilities regardless of the situation. Man, he still considers Titus/Nero maybe playing against us, despite us both being in that hood -in addition to Norwee- and all confirming otherwise!! Also, how hard is it to understand that "at least one" does NOT equate to "exactly one"?

And then he says "do you realize that if your theory is true, Bell is scum?| and facepalms?
:eek: whatd i do
lol you're all good dude, he was talking to/about me. i'm trying to calm things down.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:09 pm
by Bell
Plz reevaluate me.

You’ll look good if you do.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:09 pm
by Morning Mage
me?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:13 pm
by Morning Mage
im always re-evaluating everybody, me

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:21 pm
by Titus
I presume everyone is onboard with Chemist then with either Bell or Math?

I do give Math some points. He's stuck to his guns about his theory before it was his neck on the deciding block.

What it really boils down to is it Bell or Math as the last partner? Neither has pushed scum. Neither has really scumhunted. Math I see evidence of trying to work with us, albeit reluctantly (after the note). The only thing Bell has done of note is try to wagon SS day one.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:23 pm
by Bell
Please kill the third party before you kill town bell.
Ty

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:24 pm
by Titus
Math hasn't been as wrong as Nero stated. Math did prefer Pickaxe Pete out of the three when asked while most everyone else wanted DDL.

Math did hard defend Taylor, but it wasn't the play Math was defending at all but the premise instead.

Math wasn't around for the Gamma execution. Bell was and did jackshit despite being active.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:25 pm
by Titus
In post 7637, Bell wrote:Please kill the third party before you kill town bell.
Ty
What have you done that's townie?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:26 pm
by Bell
In post 7639, Titus wrote:
In post 7637, Bell wrote:Please kill the third party before you kill town bell.
Ty
What have you done that's townie?
Not gotten in the way.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:27 pm
by Titus
In post 7640, Bell wrote:
In post 7639, Titus wrote:
In post 7637, Bell wrote:Please kill the third party before you kill town bell.
Ty
What have you done that's townie?
Not gotten in the way.
Where have you scumhunted?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:27 pm
by Bell
In post 7638, Titus wrote:Math hasn't been as wrong as Nero stated. Math did prefer Pickaxe Pete out of the three when asked while most everyone else wanted DDL.

Math did hard defend Taylor, but it wasn't the play Math was defending at all but the premise instead.

Math wasn't around for the Gamma execution. Bell was and did jackshit despite being active.
I voted gamma and made a small case as to why his behavior was scum pinging me.
I unvoted when A50 said he was town.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:29 pm
by Bell
In post 7641, Titus wrote:
In post 7640, Bell wrote:
In post 7639, Titus wrote:
In post 7637, Bell wrote:Please kill the third party before you kill town bell.
Ty
What have you done that's townie?
Not gotten in the way.
Where have you scumhunted?
Here and there.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:32 pm
by Bell
It’s pretty clear from the flips and my interactions with all the scum that i’m not scum with them.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:43 pm
by Titus
I think once I am done moving, Drunk!Titus will look at this game.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:43 pm
by MathBlade
In post 7631, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7628, Almost50 wrote:Amd then he talks to me AGAIN after I had made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that I don't want to interact with him anymore. Is that too hard to understand too?
*shrug* i'm trying to make an extra effort to extend an olive branch to you, as I really don't see the reason for you being so angry at me in particular. I mean, even if you really think my opinions are bad, does that really warrant getting so mad? Mafia is a game of persuasion and co-operation, so if you think I'm wrong about something you should be trying to persuade me of your viewpoint, but honestly the best way to do that isn't to swear at me and insult me. If that's too much to ask at the moment, it sounds like it might be worth you taking a short break from this thread though.
Can you all please hug it out? This is just a game. Sure some things have absolutely frustrated me this game too. But please both of you, this isn’t productive. If need be take it to your group’s hood (assuming the three of you have one). I am intentionally taking a back seat as me posting isn’t productive for town right now, please don’t do WW3.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:46 pm
by MathBlade
In post 7636, Titus wrote:I presume everyone is onboard with Chemist then with either Bell or Math?

I do give Math some points. He's stuck to his guns about his theory before it was his neck on the deciding block.

What it really boils down to is it Bell or Math as the last partner? Neither has pushed scum. Neither has really scumhunted. Math I see evidence of trying to work with us, albeit reluctantly (after the note). The only thing Bell has done of note is try to wagon SS day one.
I am onboard with Chemist as the elim. I, to be frank, have been more focused on lalalalalala rather than blah blah blah (Titus will get this) so who with I don’t know. My setup spec originally had them as town but their complete flake out means they’re probably scum.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:12 pm
by Nero Cain
and the other scum is?

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:16 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 7638, Titus wrote:Math did prefer Pickaxe Pete out of the three when asked while most everyone else wanted DDL.
is this true?

im p sure Math made a post that said DDL and JJH were the likely scum in that grouping. And...if he's king or a traitor then he knew that DDL wasn't scum so giving him town points for that is dumb.