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In post 7644, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 7630, skitter30 wrote:then deacon votes me.

since they don't do anything without cabd's approval

that means he changed his mind at some point

This is false. particularly if you're thinking ANYTHING we've done in the last 24-36 hours was with pre-approval.

i mean ok? it looks the same from here so like if this is something i'm supposed to just divine i cannot
from my pov it looks coordinated and like you discussed it and came to this conclusion
if it's not than the timing is incredibly weird

In post 7637, skitter30 wrote:

In post 7626, Deacon Blues wrote:can you show me an instance of me rebuffing you on something because i'm legitimately trying to empathize here

-b

you was a collective you for you/ffery/bork
i can quote a whole bunch, do you really want that?

for real, yes, i absolutely want that

-b

In post 7648, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 7635, skitter30 wrote:

In post 7625, Deacon Blues wrote:their role is very +scum and it's the biggest source of paranoia for me

also things like this is what's annoying. you know what his role is. this is apparently a relevant data point. i do not.
like actively playing in the dark is frustrating because i don't know why it's being played this way and you're making silly decisions off of it

You know everything about their role that we do. They are a purple room neighborhood gatecrasher.

i thought that was a general game mechanic, not that this is their role
and yes that's scum af?

~
or more accurately i thought ~they got added to the room at some point~ (but not necessarily under their own violition)
and that if there's anything like a purple room spy they would be scum
them literally being a role that can add themselves to the purple room is incredibly scummy

In post 7647, Firebringer wrote:about pooky buddying/manipulating everyone?

yeah. i felt like he started the day making reads that felt political and he was taking, like, distant stances on everyone. i dont know how to explain it better. then i made my give up vote on him and he raged at me and kind of faded into just shitposting after

In post 7651, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 7637, skitter30 wrote:

In post 7626, Deacon Blues wrote:can you show me an instance of me rebuffing you on something because i'm legitimately trying to empathize here

-b

you was a collective you for you/ffery/bork
i can quote a whole bunch, do you really want that?

for real, yes, i absolutely want that

-b

ok, and in return can i get like three sentences of reasons for why you're scumreading me?

In post 7630, skitter30 wrote:why are you scurmeading me. like if you can actually give a few sentences with reasons that would be helpful

i mean, i could do this, sure (and have a decent amount in thread about it already), but like I thought we were talking about what you want from me regarding how i can give you your agency back because so much of our play has involved neighborhood play that we're keeping guarded

-b

In post 7652, skitter30 wrote:them literally being a role that can add themselves to the purple room is incredibly scummy

to also lay all the cards on the table: straight up mod did NOT tell us in the purple room that dandelion was a part of the purple room until they posted, meaning they could've just listened.
i'm townreading them regardless of that

-b

UNVOTE: dandelion

their role being outed is what needed to like make sense of what's happening. now there's a nice 'aha' moment and things start making sense again
i actually think he's just scum
(sorry ceph you're still awesome)

(i'm aware people are gonna shout omgus, etc, it's not. it's the claim/role, which would have been helpful to have a while ago but you know)

pedit good god that's literally a scum ability. you're pocketed

In post 7650, skitter30 wrote:

In post 7644, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 7630, skitter30 wrote:then deacon votes me.

since they don't do anything without cabd's approval

that means he changed his mind at some point

This is false. particularly if you're thinking ANYTHING we've done in the last 24-36 hours was with pre-approval.

i mean ok? it looks the same from here so like if this is something i'm supposed to just divine i cannot
from my pov it looks coordinated and like you discussed it and came to this conclusion
if it's not than the timing is incredibly weird

Nope. Bork has wanted to vote you for a few days. I wanted to hold off and watch the interactions with the current wagons, and also wanted to simmer on the stuff that you've been doing that bugs me -- jabbing and digging, but never actually getting to grips with us.

It was my idea and only my idea to ask LLD about the purple room. It was a purely gut decision to see how she reacted.

It was my idea to finally vote you and I checked with bork to see if it was still where his head is at. I didn't post a word about it in the neighborhood.

It was my idea to vote A50, and I checked with bork and no one else.

I should probably work a lot more closely with bork than I do, but we're partners not a hive mind.

I have backed away somewhat on the neighborhood because bork isn't comfortable with it, and sometimes I want to live in my own thoughts, too.

having all the relevant information like a week ago would have been nice but better late than never i suppose.

that's literally the prototypical scum role in this setup. it's the exact role i was thinkign 'man if it existed it's for sure scum'. he has it, he claimed it to pocket you.

bork i will compile a list for you but it will take a bit of time/a few hours cuz long iso etc. i'm not ignoring it it's just gonna take some time

In post 7655, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 7630, skitter30 wrote:why are you scurmeading me. like if you can actually give a few sentences with reasons that would be helpful

i mean, i could do this, sure (and have a decent amount in thread about it already), but like I thought we were talking about what you want from me regarding how i can give you your agency back because so much of our play has involved neighborhood play that we're keeping guarded

-b

well they're tied together. i don't like things are being kept guarded because it's withholding the data that i need to solve things.
if i got the data i wouldn't mind as much.

In post 7657, skitter30 wrote:UNVOTE: dandelion

their role being outed is what needed to like make sense of what's happening. now there's a nice 'aha' moment and things start making sense again
i actually think he's just scum
(sorry ceph you're still awesome)

(i'm aware people are gonna shout omgus, etc, it's not. it's the claim/role, which would have been helpful to have a while ago but you know)

pedit good god that's literally a scum ability. you're pocketed

it happens to be a town ability. this is why you don't just kill people for role spec, which i'd think you could empathize with given how everyone tried to kill you over role spec. we only have 2 shots, if that helps.
-ceph

In post 7649, Firebringer wrote:lets see if we can shake a wagon
UNVOTE: pooky

i checked and the votes on him are you/midway/skitter. we're like our own misfit tribe at this point

skitter i don't think ur gonna get a dandellion eliminaation today

In post 7662, petapan wrote:

In post 7649, Firebringer wrote:lets see if we can shake a wagon
UNVOTE: pooky

i checked and the votes on him are you/midway/skitter. we're like our own misfit tribe at this point

what a weird group of people.

In post 7658, Deacon Blues wrote:Nope. Bork has wanted to vote you for a few days. I wanted to hold off and watch the interactions with the current wagons, and also wanted to simmer on the stuff that you've been doing that bugs me -- jabbing and digging, but never actually getting to grips with us.

It was my idea and only my idea to ask LLD about the purple room. It was a purely gut decision to see how she reacted.

It was my idea to finally vote you and I checked with bork to see if it was still where his head is at. I didn't post a word about it in the neighborhood.

It was my idea to vote A50, and I checked with bork and no one else.

I should probably work a lot more closely with bork than I do, but we're partners not a hive mind.

I have backed away somewhat on the neighborhood because bork isn't comfortable with it, and sometimes I want to live in my own thoughts, too.

ok, and once again, given that literally none of this was in thread from my pov it's impossible to know this and i was working with the information i had.
i can't know what you're thinking or doing to solve things when you're not sharing your thougths ...

In post 7663, Firebringer wrote:skitter i don't think ur gonna get a dandellion eliminaation today

oh i'm hyper aware, do not fear, but they're still scum so i'm voting them

i feel like you're just walking this back to "you're a hydra how am i supposed to deal with that" which is =/

-b

In post 7666, skitter30 wrote:

In post 7663, Firebringer wrote:skitter i don't think ur gonna get a dandellion eliminaation today

oh i'm hyper aware, do not fear, but they're still scum so i'm voting them

it scares me that the pragmatic skitter i once knew has been lost to me.

i guess since u can multivote it isn't like ur giving up anything so maybe ur still being pragmatic

like from my pov: deacon votes me (slightly anglign towards there)
two hours later cabd comes back and decides to vote me (with very little prior progression)

given the whole ffery/cabd thing do you really think ti's an unreasonable concusion to think these two things are related?
like if there's other things prompting it they're not being brought up in thread so to me, from what i can see, those look like releated events

In post 6261, Annie Edison wrote:Bork why are YOU townreading dandelion

dude you're being fucking weird

-b

In post 7670, skitter30 wrote:like if there's other things prompting it they're not being brought up in thread so to me, from what i can see, those look like releated events

they are both really good friends?

this isn't much of a conspiracy on this part. I do agree the dandellion/deacon tribe needs to be broken up tho

In post 7670, skitter30 wrote:like from my pov: deacon votes me (slightly anglign towards there)
two hours later cabd comes back and decides to vote me (with very little prior progression)

given the whole ffery/cabd thing do you really think ti's an unreasonable concusion to think these two things are related?
like if there's other things prompting it they're not being brought up in thread so to me, from what i can see, those look like releated events

there's nothing really happening in the neighborhood right now they're just effectively masons it seems like
-ceph

In post 7661, Dandelion Wine wrote:it happens to be a town ability. this is why you don't just kill people for role spec, which i'd think you could empathize with given how everyone tried to kill you over role spec. we only have 2 shots, if that helps.

i do greatly empathize, yes.
but your slot being scum with that role coupled with how the mechanical misteps keep happening (ahem coordinating the spiffeh / super bowl thing????) and how the interactions aroudn the purple room have happened makes a stupid amount of sense

this strongly implies either spiffeh or superbowl being scum as well